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The impression I got from the thread was that you were referring to the people participating on the thread itself. If these remarks had a different angle to them based on comments outside the thread, I can understand that. However, that wasn't really specified on the thread itself. That's not something an average threadgoer should be expected to know either. It appears this was more of an issue of miscommunication more than anything if what you're saying is true.????
If I was disrespectful, I would be pointed out by OP or by anyone present in the thread at that time or even privately by OP. I tried to be completely reasonable while being opposition and addressed them all of them respectfully.
- Not a single message is redirected to anyone, BUT TO myself. Because people was ranting about my common sense in off-site servers while at the end, when dareaperman in fact listed all inconsistencies, then my doubts about the statement being invalid was valid
- the outlier deletion was literally metaphorical
It says false reports based on vendettas are unacceptable. I don't possess any vendettas considering this is the first time I've interacted with you, and I made the comment based on the knowledge available to me. I even consulted a staff member beforehand if this would be appropriate. It may not have warranted a course of action, but it does not mean it was in bad faith.Is it not against rules to falsely report people like that? Because it currently stated in Ant's OP.
I don't agree with it, because if we're agreeing this wasn't playful banter (even if he has been diplomatic with you in the past), then this is one of a string of infractions. I feel two months is still pretty lenient for the offenses. That would be my vote, if you're looking for a consensus.I agree with and Agnaa and Bambu here.
Also, is it fine if I reduce TheMonkeMan's ban length to one month?
I am opposed to this.Also, is it fine if I reduce TheMonkeMan's ban length to one month?
I agree with this as well.Regarding the report on Dread, I don't think it warrants further arguing or bickering here on the RVR- the original report was dismissed and it seems like everyone has a better understanding of things.
He said this the first time he got banned, so I think it's just another case of a member going "this place sux im leaving!!" and then they proceed to stay anyway. I can't provide the actual post as it's nigh-impossible to find posts made by banned members, and I'm pretty sure it came from the slander threads eitherway.
He had expressed a similar sentiment the first time he got banned, but ended up returning anyways. However, if he thinks it is in his best interest to not be on the forum anymore and his requesting that his account be deleted, perhaps his ban should be made permanent so that he will get what he wants.TheMonkeMan told me that it seems unlikely that he will return:
I hardly think that's warranted or necessary.However, if he thinks it is in his best interest to not be on the forum anymore and his requesting that his account be deleted, perhaps his ban should be made permanent so that he will get what he wants.
As the staff member with by far the greatest experience with Monke, I say this is still too little. I don't think time away will change him unless he physically begins getting older. His immaturity shows in too many of his posts. I still think 6 months is the better option.2 months is an unusually low amount of time for these kinds of problems, and in the interest of fairness, I would have thought something in the range of 3 months was far more appropriate. I won't stress the point if other staff members would prefer to keep it as it is, but I would oppose reducing it further.
I should have been more clear in my original post that I was overall comfortable with the 3-6 month range you proposed, just with a preference for the lower end. If you believe in your experience with Monke that 6 months would be warranted, I'd be content with that.As the staff member with by far the greatest experience with Monke, I say this is still too little. I don't think time away will change him unless he physically begins getting older. His immaturity shows in too many of his posts. I still think 6 months is the better option.
I believe there is something to be said about individuals who can't really help themselves from returning even when they recognize that participating in the forum is a net negative for them, but I won't insist on that solution if it doesn't seem appropriate.and only serves to be disproportionate and to restrict him from a choice he is (and should be) allowed to make in the latter scenario. It doesn't provide anything of value either way.
He commented on Crabwhale's wall.The account hasnt made an edit since March.
It would be fairly easy to fake such a message if all we're going off of is the username. I'll see to contacting Monke off-site to see if he was really the one who made it.However, I might be mistaken as that account might be his main because the actual fandom user named "TheMonkeMan" hasn't made a single edit and Bambu himself stated he's unsure if this is really MonkeMan.
Not exactly a ban appeal, but commenting on a staffs wall isn't frowned upon while banned, assuming it is him.In the event of your primary account being banned, you are permitted to create an alternate account solely for the purpose of submitting a ban appeal on a staff member's message wall. It is important to emphasize that this alternate account must not be utilized for any other activities within the wiki.
I know. But even if that is him, calling " DaMonkeMan" a sock would be inherently wrong, as it's the older account. For all we know "TheMonkeMan" probably wasn't created for the wiki and is just an unused alt, considering it has no contributions anywhere.I think you’re mistaking my point. What I’m actually implying is that this “TheMonkeMan” user on fandom might not even be him. Even though I initially thought it was, thus why I made the report.
How can others (including myself) also use that function/what is the URL for that page?"DaMonkeMan" seems to have been created first.
It's possible that "TheMonkeMan" is not Monke's VSBW account, since it has no edits. I'll ban this account.The account hasnt made an edit since March.
Ah.Ninja'd on Marshadow regarding this, but yes - he's stated TheMonkeMan on Fandom is not his account.
replace USERNAME at the end of the url with the user you wanna check.How can others (including myself) also use that function/what is the URL for that page?