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Look, I don't want to see any more messages on this matter. Unless you are a staff or Speedster himself, just drop it. You said your piece, we got it, will deal with it.
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That is not the issue at all. With all due respect, you were completely off.The issue with Speedster as I understand it is not that he means any harm, it is that he posts a massive amount and doesn't have good common sense at all, so he easily gets annoying for the people who have to repeatedly deal with him a lot. That is all.
I can explain satsuki fight was a little unfair and she had a 6a weapon when they were both low 7b and main and kachon called it a stomp too. For the dante fight it was a little unfair that's allThat is not the issue at all. With all due respect, you were completely off.
The issue is that he is a nuisance on versus threads. And frankly I'm getting tired and pissed of this "he's misunderstood" narrative. The dude is annoying. He apologizes, then does the same thing. He's probably apologized 8 times in the past few months, then goes to do the same thing right after.
Drastically biased and will use underhanded tactics to make sure his characters win, or rather "don't lose", ranging from restricting enemies' abilities or calling stomps whenever his character is in a negative light.
He chooses, or defends, drastically haxed characters against others, then complains when they lose and calls it a stomp, like he did in the Satsuki vs Meliodas fight.
Or he just calls the match unfair, like he did in the Dante vs Kaidou fight.
Then he "I'm getting this closed" or "headcanons" into oblivion. Go in the search and type in "headcanon" and "Speedster352"
Like this is ridiculous. I'm sick of this unintentional favoritism. Saying sorry a dozen times isn't a consequence ender.
Okay. What would you suggest that we should do then? Also, is he trolling, or is he just obsessive and lacks common sense in combination?That is not the issue at all. With all due respect, you were completely off.
The issue is that he is a nuisance on versus threads. And frankly I'm getting tired and pissed of this "he's misunderstood" narrative. The dude is annoying. He apologizes, then does the same thing. He's probably apologized 8 times in the past few months, then goes to do the same thing right after.
Drastically biased and will use underhanded tactics to make sure his characters win, or rather "don't lose", ranging from restricting enemies' abilities or calling stomps whenever his character is in a negative light.
He chooses, or defends, drastically haxed characters against others, then complains when they lose and calls it a stomp, like he did in the Satsuki vs Meliodas fight.
Or he just calls the match unfair, like he did in the Dante vs Kaidou fight.
Then he "I'm getting this closed" or "headcanons" into oblivion. Go in the search and type in "headcanon" and "Speedster352"
Like this is ridiculous. I'm sick of this unintentional favoritism. Saying sorry a dozen times isn't a consequence ender.
Ban him from vs threads, and the latterOkay. What would you suggest that we should do then? Also, is he trolling, or is he just obsessive and lacks common sense in combination?
Wait I will be leaving the wiki after the nnt upgrades or tomorrow depending on the verdict so could I please be pardoned or put under probation?Okay. What would you suggest that we should do then? Also, is he trolling, or is he just obsessive and lacks common sense in combination?
But why though I haven’t made any stomp matches and I explained what happened.Ban him from vs threads, and the latter
Can you please calm down. Your a reasonable person I haven’t made any stomp matches and I haven’t insulting or offended anyone in any way.**** allat, ban him from versus threads. His NNT upgrades don't have anything to do with vs threads, those are CRTs
I am not I am just asking if they could try to have some mercy on me until then since I will leave the wiki anyway and everyone would probably be happy.Speedster, please don't play the "i'm going to leave the wiki soon" sympathy card. The NNT upgrade thread isn't even a vs thread or vs related, so mentioning it is pointless.
Once again, it's being talked about you being banned from vs threads specifically, not CRT's. Don't mention CRT's, or any other threads, as you aren't getting banned from them nor are they related to the topic at hand.I am not I am just asking if they could try to have some mercy on me until then since I will leave the wiki anyway and everyone would probably be happy.
That is fine but I haven’t made any stomp, spite matches. I just having been good at debates.Once again, it's being talked about you being banned from vs threads specifically, not CRT's. Don't mention CRT's, or any other threads, as you aren't getting banned from them nor are they related to the topic at hand.
Please don’t I haven’t made any stomp and spite matches I followed the rules it’s just that I am bad at debating. I am truly sorry and I am trying to changeSo should we give a 6 month or 1 year ban from versus threads this time?
That is fine but I followed the rules and haven’t made any stomp and spite matches. I know I am bad at debating but I have not made any spite or stomp matches ever since I was unbanned from versus threads. I suggest a probation period with someone watching me to see if I can change.Well, you might need to mature and improve your common sense for 6 months, so you do not constantly derail such threads with nonsense, as it is very annoying for other participants.
That is match just for fun. It’s not an actual versus thread. I was just trying to make arguments against AZ and mana drainI think this thread is a good example of speedster's behavior in versus threads: he constantly spams users, shares large amounts of text where he just copies and pastes character abilities several times, asks and spams the op to change his character because his character is being defeated, says that the match is a stomp in favor of his opponent and then says that the same character has no wincon, debates in circles constantly without giving any new arguments, forces users to give a vote to cut off a debate in process, votes at the beginning of the thread giving vague arguments and without a previous debate, etc.
He already had a match ban before, but I'm not sure how long it was though. If it was only something like a month, then I think a 6 month ban is more warranted this time, but if it was already a long ban like 6 months, I think a year is better suited imhoSo should we give a 6 month or 1 year ban from versus threads this time?
Yes however I haven’t made any stomp or spite matches I am just not a good debater. I haven’t insulted or attacked anyone.He already had a match ban before, but I'm not sure how long it was though. If it was only something like a month, then I think a 6 month ban is more warranted this time, but if it was already a long ban like 6 months, I think a year is better suited imho
Actually the match is in the VS threads section and not F&G, you say you have not broken any Spite or stomp rules, which apparently is true, but your attitude in the VS Debates is terrible, I don't think it is necessary to say how is your behavior and what you have done both in the past and now mainly, if you know you are not good at vs debates then take a break instead of making people get bored of your attitude and behavior and report you, and it should be noted, that I honestly don't buy your apology, as it is a loop of apologize, do it again, ban, apologize, do it again. And spamming is another thing, I've seen you spamming everyone, myself included, that's just annoying.That is match just for fun. It’s not an actual versus thread. I was just trying to make arguments against AZ and mana drain
You can still destroy for everybody else through sheer incompetence combined with spamming lots of pointless posts though.Yes however I haven’t made any stomp or spite matches I am just not a good debater. I haven’t insulted or attacked anyone.
I agree that I should take from debating but that was a match for fun equal stats fusion.Actually the match is in the VS threads section and not F&G, you say you have not broken any Spite or stomp rules, which apparently is true, but your attitude in the VS Debates is terrible, I don't think it is necessary to say how is your behavior and what you have done both in the past and now mainly, if you know you are not good at vs debates then take a break instead of making people get bored of your attitude and behavior and report you, and it should be noted, that I honestly don't buy your apology, as it is a loop of apologize, do it again, ban, apologize, do it again.
I understand but that’s only because I am not a good debater which isn’t against the rules and I haven’t been toxic. I am just trying to make arguments which I do not seem to be good at.You can still destroy for everybody else through sheer incompetence combined with spamming lots of pointless posts though.
I am a very practical person. Also wouldn’t probation be fine? I will just prove that I can behave myself in versus thread. I just am not a good debater.I think that we have rules against spamming and derailing discussions, but even if we don't, we still occasionally need to be able to be practical, to ensure that our community functions properly.
6 monthsCan anyone find the length of his original ban please?
If it's six months, then a year since warranted this time thenI am a very practical person. Also wouldn’t probation be fine? I will just prove that I can behave myself in versus thread. I just am not a good debater.
6 months
But I was banned for making stomp and spite matches. This time I am not a good debater those are very different.If it's six months, then a year since warranted this time then
Doesn't matter. It's still related to vs threads which are the issue. I'm neutral on either another 6 month ban or a year.But I was banned for making stomp and spite matches. This time I am not a good debater those are very different.
That was in the past I having made spite or stomp matches since and I have used the versus suggestion threadIf I may be allowed another message:
I do believe Speedster should be punished. How severe the punishment is isn't up to me, but I just want to bring attention to the fact that Speedster has been reported a few times before for this sort of behavior. At one point, he even tried to circumvent his ban by posting Versus Threads in the FC/OC forum, and was given a month-long forum ban because of it. And this most recent ban was only four-five months ago, too. I feel like this shouldn't be overlooked, because there were two (three?) instances of him being matchmaking banned for three or more months, and an instance of being forum banned for a month.
I know the reason for his report this instance is different, but regardless, this should be taken into account. If he is to be given a punishment, keep this in mind.
For making versus matches or engaging in them?I am personally fine with a 6 months duration, since it is a new area that he has messed up in, and it isn't intentional.
I still think that’s that not fair since being a bad debater isn’t against the rules and I haven’t done anything toxic. I haven’t insulted anyone and I haven’t made any stomp or spite matches. Isn’t there any other punishment I can receive?For participating in them at all.