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Here's the reason he was bannedOkay. I don't remember any specifics regarding why the member in question was banned though, so it is hard for me to evaluate.
Welp. I have no doubts anymore.Here's the reason he was banned
I can still see his OG account as under the 1-year-ban tho...I have extended the ban of his original account to permanent. And also, some more elaborate details were posted on the previous page.
Thank you.I have taken care of that too
Oh seriously **** off mate you're the one who started that entire ordeal by calling me a literal underdeveloped human being because I called you "Kiddo." You're the one who responded to me with an unholy amount of aggression.@LordGinSama called me, and I quote, a "Dog with brain complications" here. When I called him out on that being legitimately offensive (Espesially to me since I have Asperger's), he just said this in response.
The word "Fetus" is used on the internet often to denote someone who is espesially young, and you didn't say anything about being offended by being called that until after I called you out for what you said.Oh seriously **** off mate you're the one who started that entire ordeal by calling me a literal underdeveloped human being because I called you "Kiddo."
And my last response wasn't even insulting.
If we're using internet definitions that are literally made up out of thin air then what's stopping me from using the "internets" version of let's say autism and other disabilities to say that what I said isn't offensive? You tried to undermine my intelligence to something that has even lesser intelligence than even those with life affecting disabilities.The word "Fetus" is used on the internet
Read the room, if I wasn't offended then I obviously wouldn't have responded to you in such a way. You're also acting as if I made an insult about disabilities and calling you autistic whenever my comment was more referring to brain conditions such as concussions. Very different than a ******* neurological disease and I also have relatives who had low functioning autism so I really don't appreciate you misconstruing what I said as an insult to those with disabilities. Literally just a conclusion that you yourself came up with.often to denote someone who is espesially young, and you didn't say anything about being offended by being called that until after I called you out for what you said.
I don't believe Gin's phrasing was done to make light of your Aspergers, and was likely remarking your IQ. This is interpretive though and will probably change depending on who you ask.@LordGinSama called me, and I quote, a "Dog with brain complications" here. When I called him out on that being legitimately offensive (Espesially to me since I have Asperger's), he just said this in response.
I'm also going to point out that you also had insulted Gin here and instigated the measuring contest when you could have just de-escalated things. Even if Gin was wrong for saying what he did that doesn't justify your actions either.The word "Fetus" is used on the internet often to denote someone who is espesially young, and you didn't say anything about being offended by being called that until after I called you out for what you said.
It's either they both get warned or neither, they're both at fault, and Smashor was clearly more hostile in his posts, directly calling someone a "bitch" is far worse than calling someone a "kid" or a "dog" after the fact.I missed that one comment from Smashor. Both did wrong. Doesn't take away from my point. Gin started it. Smashor doesn't usually get into troubles. Gin has a history or being rude and aggressive leading to these scenarios. Minor offences when repeated often times can't just be handwaved.
When was the last time Gin was warned for being slightly hostile in his posts? Several months ago? It's not as recurrent as you're trying to make it out to be.This isn't about just this one instance. Did you not read my post? I said Gin has a history of being rude and aggressive to other users. Not a one time occurrence. And I am not advocating for some kind of serious punishment. Just a warning to not be rude and aggressive in the future. It's for his own good so he doesn't get dragged back here again.
Apology means nothing when you repeat the same behavior again and again.
Being the aggressor does. And not even talking about this instance in isolation. Infractions aren't seen in isolation.Right, calling someone "kiddo" and "dog" after being called a bitch totally makes Gin the worse of the two
I edited my post. There are two warnings. And he was also banned before. And yes, warnings don't have expiry dates. You should know that by now. By that logic, someone would be able to get away with causing problems every four months or so. This just makes it worse for Gin knowing that he hasn't stopped being rude and aggressive over the years even after being told multiple times. Past behavior is taken into account for as long as the member remains here, but it can be excused/ignored a bit if something was done years ago (like we do for bans). But this is just only talking about a few months.bringing up a warning from almost five months ago, is that going to be used against him for however long he remains on the site?
This would have been agreeable if this was the first instance of Gin being aggressive. And this judgment only comes from taking into account this instance in isolation. The other staff might not have prior knowledge of Gin's rude attitude over the years.I agree with the other staff in that both were over the top, but it's nothing major that warrants a punishment, just that they should apologize to each other and cease being condescending.
I really think you're blowing this out of proportion. Warning someone who repeatedly gets into trouble to behave themselves and stop being aggressive/rude is hardly punishment. Your case might have been valid if I was proposing a ban for Gin, which I'm not.Since you clearly want Gin punished no matter what and won't relent
This comment made by Ant was made during my ban and I'm honestly not even sure why he did so whenever I've never publicly nor privately gone after Damage. Ant is known for extrapolating issues and having a bad sense of judgement from time to time, as I've never been warned nor banned due to any interaction with Damage.Hello.
Just a note for when you come back.
I heard that you may or may not have a grudge against Damage3245, but I would strongly advise you to let the matter be, as pursuing some kind of vendetta is only going to get you banned again, and for a longer period this time.
The same warning applies for if you do not make an effort to clean up your overall behaviour, and start to insult others and be unreasonable again. If you do not shape up, there is a high risk that others will demand that we ban you again as well, which would be a shame in my view.
And yes, warnings don't have expiry dates
The other staff might not have prior knowledge of Gin's rude attitude over the years.
When you add "keep trying kiddo" at the end of your argument, what do you expect in return? Are you saying your comment was not a least bit provocative? Smashor's earlier comment was free of any kind of provocation that would have incited a response from you. Your comment included a provocation that would incite a response like that from any other user. Which only helps to escalate issues. So no, Smashor did not start it. And you should know better to provoke other users in your position as you are already on thin ice.I didn't start the altercation with Smashor, he's the one who instigated it by literally calling me a bitch
Once again, I never advocated for a ban here...Honestly just seems like a personal issue of wanting to hand out a ban for whatever reason. It's a blatant overreaction and my last "blowout." was months ago.
The entire purpose of this is to bring to focus that this isn't the first time Gin has been aggressive/rude or provoked other users through incendiary comments. And his offenses in the past has earned him warnings and bans. Repeated offenses like this cannot be handwaved.Not sure if publicly exposing Gin's warnings was even a smart move anyways. Not quite sure what the point of that was either.
It is maybe a little but he literally says that to everyone he disagrees with and or argues with... It has nothing to do with attacking them personally or to provoke them.When you add "keep trying kiddo" at the end of your argument, what do you expect in return? Are you saying your comment was not a least bit provocative?
Then he needs a warning to not say it, because it might be a normal thing for Gin to say in his surroundings, but it's not taken as that by other users. Remarks like that are tailormade to earn an incendiary comment in return.It is maybe a little but he literally says that to everyone he disagrees with and or argues with...
This comment made by Ant was made during my ban and I'm honestly not even sure why he did so whenever I've never publicly nor privately gone after Damage. Ant is known for extrapolating issues and having a bad sense of judgement from time to time, as I've never been warned nor banned due to any interaction with Damage.
He even says it here on this threadNothing i said to you portrays any sort of resentment nor any sort of dislike. You're a random user, I have nothing to have against you so in the real world we'd call this an "inappropriate term.". Again learn what the term means and find a proper way to fit it into a sentence, the word your looking for here is condescending.
Learn how to use words properly before you call other stupid there kiddo. Anywhere I'm about done here with you, don't expect anymore replies from me to you.
I mean I guess? But literally there are so many more users that uses that word...Then he needs a warning to not say it, because it might be a normal thing for Gin to say in his surroundings, but it's not taken as that by other users. Remarks like that are tailormade to earn an incendiary comment in return.