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I'm not sure what to vote but smoke said himself that he hate what this wiki has become...
Doesn't matter. He's free not to participate in it again when his ban runs out. In fact, he's free to leave forever, banned or not.
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I'm not sure what to vote but smoke said himself that he hate what this wiki has become...
And again, a permaban right off the bat isn't how things are done here. This isn't your discord server Mori.A lenient punishment is sympathy. Root out the source rather than allow yet another repeat.
I strongly agree with this. Let's stop acting like tyrants please. He is annoying and persisten, yes, but I can say the same of other members, and he promised to never mention Coolcat again.I'd take 6 months over a year, and 3 months over 6 months. Way too excessive when his only crime is being stubbornly annoying. Not a precedent I have any interest in setting.
Strongly agreed.I don't get why people are so trigger happy with permabans. As I keep saying, permabans are only for reserved for really malicious users, vandalizers, trolls and those who have been repeatedly banned but don't change their behavior to productively aid the site.
This user hasn't been banned even once yet and people are already gunning for permaban saying "he won't change". That's a stupid assumption and that is not how things are done. If he has been given multiple warnings and is still being annoyingly persistent about Cool Cat, we won't permanently ban him just for that. That is way too much. Even 6 months is way too much for that.
Ban him for a month or two at max to make him understand what he did wrong. If he does it again after coming back, we will ban him for longer.
And this is where i disappointed with humanity again for so many times... No, not particularly.
Anywhoo, does anyone disagree with the compromise?
Also strongly agreed. This seriously has to stop.Seriously it almost feels like people automatically default to "permaban" for every user they don't like. It is getting really annoying at this point.
Who acting like a tyrants here?I strongly agree with this. Let's stop acting like tyrants please. He is annoying and persisten, yes, but I can say the same of other members, and he promised to never mention Coolcat again.
1 month seems sufficiently harsh.
How many times must I repeat the matter "We did give him a chance to change, he squandered it" before people read it..?And again, a permaban right off the bat isn't how things are done here. This isn't your discord server Mori.
Again, permaban is only reserved for special cases like the ones I mentioned earlier. For anything else, we give warnings -> temp bans to make them understand what they did wrong -> permaban only is it is a lost cause.
You are simply trying to get rid of this user without giving them a chance to change. I am banning him for 3 months. Period.
Also, Tllmbrg himself. Looking back at that "2 mods agree abd there's no opposition" comment. He kinda tried to steamroll the votes early on.@Tllmbrg ...Morizva >_>
He wasn't banned. He was given a warning. My comment already covers this point so like, you should read it and not make me repeat it.How many times must I repeat the matter "We did give him a chance to change, he squandered it" before people read it..?
Hate mind man, hate can blind you in instant and you can't stop it by yourself until someone stop youI am kinda worried that no one noticed how I corrected myself earlier. He wasn't banned multiple times, he was given a profile making ban. Yet, the conversation continued on.
The consequences of someone's actions might not sink in until they've been banned. That's kinda why we start with warnings in most cases.A warning is meant to give someone a time to change, so saying we need to give him a time to change is redundant.
But alas, I agree with the 3 months compromise, so I'll drop it and exit as I have nothing further to contribute.
That doesn't seem relevant or necessary here, but yes, if someone abuses their position they would be demoted.Hold on before we drop this fully, i have one thing to say:
Maybe my idea is weird or funny but all the staff here me out, if one the staff do a major problems/abusing its position (act like a tyrant is not a exception), that staff need his position ripped off, what do you guys think?
Maybe we should more aggressive with that, again that just meWe already do that.
Stuff like that is for the Human Resources to look at. Not here.Hold on before we drop this fully, i have one thing to say:
Maybe my idea is weird or funny but all the staff here me out, if one the staff do a major problems/abusing its position (act like a tyrant is not a exception), that staff need his position ripped off, what do you guys think?
A Cool Cat ban, and a ban of 3 months (possibly less, though the majority stands for 3, so it seems).So what's the conclusion (if I'm even allowed to ask)....
Eh, if we're banning Cool Cat from being made, period, then 6 months is pretty excessive, as my main point of contention was preventing this repeated issue from happening again. A Cool Cat ban stops that, so as long as BigSmoke4269 is punished in some capacity, I care little for how long it is (though erring on the lower side compared to 6 months seems reasonable).6 month ban likely
This user likely has Underneath Something vibes from what I seen
Stop, we are already solved this so lets not bring it again6 month ban likely
This user likely has Underneath Something vibes from what I seen