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Doesn't matter. He's free not to participate in it again when his ban runs out. In fact, he's free to leave forever, banned or not.
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Doesn't matter. He's free not to participate in it again when his ban runs out. In fact, he's free to leave forever, banned or not.
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I couldn't care less if he did...
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And again, a permaban right off the bat isn't how things are done here. This isn't your discord server Mori.
Again, permaban is only reserved for special cases like the ones I mentioned earlier. For anything else, we give warnings -> temp bans to make them understand what they did wrong -> permaban only is it is a lost cause.
You are simply trying to get rid of this user without giving them a chance to change. I am banning him for 3 months. Period.
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I strongly agree with this. Let's stop acting like tyrants please. He is annoying and persisten, yes, but I can say the same of other members, and he promised to never mention Coolcat again.
1 month seems sufficiently harsh.
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3 month ban, no Cool Cat. Works perfectly for me.
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Strongly agreed.
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A topic ban for Cool Cat and a 3 month ban for BigSmoke seems good.
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And this is where i disappointed with humanity again for so many times
Its like you guys slowly losing a feeling when being a staff and became closer like what? A tyrant or dictactor, sorry for too rude
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Also strongly agreed. This seriously has to stop.
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Who acting like a tyrants here?
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How many times must I repeat the matter "We did give him a chance to change, he squandered it" before people read it..?
Regardless, a compromise was given and widely accepted (3 Months, Cool Cat profile ban), and I feel as if that's fine and reasonable.
I dislike the sympathy and lenience given to repeat problem users, but the above satiates my worries well.
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Also, Tllmbrg himself. Looking back at that "2 mods agree abd there's no opposition" comment. He kinda tried to steamroll the votes early on.
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The recurrent angry mob mentality to permanently get rid of mostly harmless people that some other members find annoying is tyrannical. It is not the kind of friendly and welcoming community that I and others have made an effort to try to build. This seriously has to stop.
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I am kinda worried that no one noticed how I corrected myself earlier. He wasn't banned multiple times, he was given a profile making ban. Yet, the conversation continued on.
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@Antvasima Should the ban on Cool Cat be made into official writing on the rules page?
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I'd prefer 3 months. Some of the stuff mentioned seems too much for a simple 1 month ban.
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He wasn't banned. He was given a warning. My comment already covers this point so like, you should read it and not make me repeat it.
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Hoĺd on there
Hate mind man, hate can blind you in instant and you can't stop it by yourself until someone stop you
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A warning is meant to give someone a time to change, so saying we need to give him a time to change is redundant.
But alas, I agree with the 3 months compromise, so I'll drop it and exit as I have nothing further to contribute.
But alas, I agree with the 3 months compromise, so I'll drop it and exit as I have nothing further to contribute.
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Oh he definitely isn't getting a permaban, not now at least. A month is fine, 3 is excessive.
I don't believe he'll change, but miracles have happened for less, so.
I don't believe he'll change, but miracles have happened for less, so.
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The consequences of someone's actions might not sink in until they've been banned. That's kinda why we start with warnings in most cases.
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Hold on before we drop this fully, i have one thing to say:
Maybe my idea is weird or funny but all the staff here me out, if one the staff do a major problems/abusing its position (act like a tyrant is not a exception), that staff need his position ripped off, what do you guys think?
Maybe my idea is weird or funny but all the staff here me out, if one the staff do a major problems/abusing its position (act like a tyrant is not a exception), that staff need his position ripped off, what do you guys think?
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We already do that.
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That doesn't seem relevant or necessary here, but yes, if someone abuses their position they would be demoted.
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Okay, guys, this is getting personal.
Put down the computer, take a deep breath, and go do something else for while. People need to chill.
Put down the computer, take a deep breath, and go do something else for while. People need to chill.
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Maybe we should more aggressive with that, again that just me
EDIT: Also Wright don't worry, i'm cold headed right now but i agree, we should drop this completely
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Well, personally, I think that instantly going to a 3 month ban is excessive, and it seems like Imp and another member agree with me.
The hostile sidetracking needs to stop though, but yes, certain staff members have got carried away with their ban-happy tendencies a few times. They should preferably take some time to reevaluate their priorities.
This community's punishments definitely shouldn't be run via mob-mentality and the personal biases of those in charge. We are not Twitter, and that is nothing to strive towards.
The hostile sidetracking needs to stop though, but yes, certain staff members have got carried away with their ban-happy tendencies a few times. They should preferably take some time to reevaluate their priorities.
This community's punishments definitely shouldn't be run via mob-mentality and the personal biases of those in charge. We are not Twitter, and that is nothing to strive towards.
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Stuff like that is for the Human Resources to look at. Not here.
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As I've said, I have little to no stake regarding BigSmoke himself. I've rarely debated with him and he has only come to my attention on incredibly egregious and popular threads that I've been told to check out. So I'll offer my defense that I have no motive or reason for bias, and simply offered my opinion based on the facts presented to me.
I dislike the dismissal of more stern punishments as "mob-mentality" and "personal biases". I had my reasons for voting how I did - what I believed would solve the problem, for good- and while I can't speak for everyone involved, I know I and likely others were not overtly swayed by bias against BigSmoke4269. So, if you may, I'd appreciate it if not all who vote that way are covered under a blanket term and ideology like that, Antvasima.
Additionally, I got what I wanted anyways. A Cool Cat profile ban, period, does stop the problem for good, hence why I was more than willing to accept the compromise on that front even if the ban was far shorter than my original aim. So, I have no complaints or quarrels about length as long as we keep the Cool Cat ban.
I dislike the dismissal of more stern punishments as "mob-mentality" and "personal biases". I had my reasons for voting how I did - what I believed would solve the problem, for good- and while I can't speak for everyone involved, I know I and likely others were not overtly swayed by bias against BigSmoke4269. So, if you may, I'd appreciate it if not all who vote that way are covered under a blanket term and ideology like that, Antvasima.
Additionally, I got what I wanted anyways. A Cool Cat profile ban, period, does stop the problem for good, hence why I was more than willing to accept the compromise on that front even if the ban was far shorter than my original aim. So, I have no complaints or quarrels about length as long as we keep the Cool Cat ban.
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So what's the conclusion (if I'm even allowed to ask)....
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A Cool Cat ban, and a ban of 3 months (possibly less, though the majority stands for 3, so it seems).
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Eh, if we're banning Cool Cat from being made, period, then 6 months is pretty excessive, as my main point of contention was preventing this repeated issue from happening again. A Cool Cat ban stops that, so as long as BigSmoke4269 is punished in some capacity, I care little for how long it is (though erring on the lower side compared to 6 months seems reasonable).
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Stop, we are already solved this so lets not bring it again
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