Rose Quartz vs Natsu Dragneel

[The_Wright_Way]

Both at High 6-B.

Speed Equalized.

Steven realizes he can't beat Natsu so he calls his mom (back from the dead.... somehow) to do it for him.

Before anyone says rehash, Rose and Steven are very different characters with very different approaches to fighting and Rose is fighting a more experienced and more haxed Natsu then Steven was.


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[Paulo.junior.969]

You should have made Rose Vs Igneel so it would be a "My mom can beat up your dad" stick.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Natsu has higher range, AP, and physical Dura but Rose beats him in every other category including dura with her shield and bubble

 

[The_Wright_Way]

You should have made Rose Vs Igneel so it would be a "My mom can beat up your dad" stick.

now, you tell me.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Why doesn't her dura say High 6-A with shield like Steven does?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Why doesn't Rose's Durability say she has High 6-A shields on her High 6-B form? Is her page also poorly made?

Edit: Ninjed.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Looked through the history and her dura with the shield was accidentally changed into Pink Diamond's durability, i'll fix it real quick

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Will there ever be a thread on this site where the page doesn't need to be changed mid-battle?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No ovo

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Should I switch to Igneel for thematic reasons or is this more fair?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Should I switch to Igneel for thematic reasons or is this more fair?

Nah, finish this one, then make another thread later.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Nah, finish this one, then make another thread later.

Sure, Rose needs more matches anyways.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

The Steven Universe/Fairy Tail crappy fanfiction lore thickens!!!!!

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I'm going to vote Natsu via higher AP/Physical dura and he only needs to poof Rose once since his flames have power null in this form.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dragon How exactly is he going to get past her High 6-A shields? Let alone even match her in combat due to her far superior skill and experience?

Also his power null is extremely limited in that it only nulls magic used against him

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Well, the page says it negates Regen up to Mid, but that wouldn't work on Rose's Low-High.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Actually, it negated Zeref's time magic which acts as a psuedo version of low godly and is not an offensive technique. This is listed on the profile, a few powers before the regen neg.

Limited Power Nullification (Burned away Zero's Existence Erasure magic, Sting's stigma that was immobilizing his body, as well as Zeref's Death Magic and Time Magic)

Isn't it a one hand shield?

She has more experience but what are her feats of skill?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dragon Its a shield she makes over her arm that can grow to several meters in size, she can summon two of them, and this isnt even counting her full bubble shield with the same durability.

She's a tactical genius, having the skill to lead her small ragtag army to victory over the entire force of Homeworld, an entire planet's army that outnumbered them by several hundred to one and was far more technologically advanced, to the point that the combined forces of two Diamonds were forced to flee and even veteran soldiers like Jasper who was quite literally created to be the ultimate quartz warrior that fought against Rose's armies developing a respect for her tactical skill in combat.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Actually, it negated Zeref's time magic which acts as a psuedo version of low godly and is not an offensive technique. This is listed on the profile, a few powers before the regen neg.

Limited Power Nullification (Burned away Zero's Existence Erasure magic, Sting's stigma that was immobilizing his body, as well as Zeref's Death Magic and Time Magic)

Isn't it a one hand shield?

She has more experience but what are her feats of skill?

She can summon multiple at once or just summon an omnidirectional one instead.

That's time manipulation, not Regenerationn.

There's successfully fooling everyone on the show with faking her death and assuming a new identity and fighting off a galactic empire with a small band of rebels. She's even considered a tactical genius by some of homeworld's best.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I know it's time manipulation, the flames don't specifically negate time manipulation, they negate powers in general which is what Regenerationn is considered.


That's intelligence, not fighting skill. Someone good at planning warfare and working with troops isn't neccessarily good at fighting themselves.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Isn't Power Null restricted to magic? Because none of Rose's stuff is magic.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Would verse equalization help with that?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Dragon Natsu's power null is limited to magic, Rose doesnt use magic

What we do know is that she trained Garnet personally in combat to the point that Garnet became skilled to take on three battalions (So a total of anywhere from 1500 to 2400) Quartz soldiers, whose basically entire purpose for existing is to be exceedingly skilled and strong in combat, alongside Bismuth.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

It's not restricted to magic. Magic in FT is the same thing as the actual thing. Magical fire = fire and so on and so forth.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I know it's time manipulation, the flames don't specifically negate time manipulation, they negate powers in general which is what Regenerationn is considered.


That's intelligence, not fighting skill. Someone good at planning warfare and working with troops isn't neccessarily good at fighting themselves.

She stalemate Hessonite, who was considered completely perfect by Homeworld to the point of being acknowledged by the Diamonds. And this was when Hessonite had a High 6-A weapon on her.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

W
What we do know is that she trained Garnet personally in combat to the point that Garnet became skilled to take on three battalions (So a total of anywhere from 1500 to 2400) Quartz soldiers, whose basically entire purpose for existing is to be exceedingly skilled and strong in combat, alongside Bismuth.

What tier are Quartz soldiers?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What tier are Quartz soldiers?

6-B, the same as Garnet. Even Jasper, who is widely recognized as the ultimate quartz warrior, views Rose as a worthy and respected adversary

 

[The_Wright_Way]

6-B.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

We also have to take into account that Rose is much stronger than Jasper tho.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

She stalemate Hessonite, who was considered completely perfect by Homeworld to the point of being acknowledged by the Diamonds. And this was when Hessonite had a High 6-A weapon on her.

And what feats of skill do the Diamonds have for them acknowledging someone being an impressive feat? Rose has High 6-A shields, the weapon and the shield neg each other.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

And what feats of skill do the Diamonds have for them acknowledging someone being an impressive feat? Rose has High 6-A shields, the weapon and the shield neg each other.

Conquering and wiping out so many planetary civilizations that it's considered a boring chore to them.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Most of the skill in SU comes from how long the war lasted and due to how old they are, if I'm not mistaken; it's not from feats, it's on the show's lore.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

6-B, the same as Garnet. Even Jasper, who is widely recognized as the ultimate quartz warrior, views Rose as a worthy and respected adversary

Was it ever described in more detail how two 6-Bs beat 1500-2400 more 6-Bs of comparable strength? I know you say they did it through skill but is it known what they actually did?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Was it ever described in more detail how two 6-Bs beat 1500-2400 more 6-Bs of comparable strength? I know you say they did it through skill but is it known what they actually did?

No. It's all backstory.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Was it ever described in more detail how two 6-Bs beat 1500-2400 more 6-Bs of comparable strength? I know you say they did it through skill but is it known what they actually did?

It was mentioned once, for like, five seconds, and they never talk about it again.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Was it ever described in more detail how two 6-Bs beat 1500-2400 more 6-Bs of comparable strength? I know you say they did it through skill but is it known what they actually did?

Nope, all we know is Garnet and Bismuth alone, both of whom were trained personally by Rose and both of whom lack any hax, beat three battalions

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Conquering and wiping out so many planetary civilizations that it's considered a boring chore to them.

How strong/skilled were the civilizations compared to the Diamonds where stomping them is a good feat for personal combat?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

How strong/skilled were the civilizations compared to the Diamonds where stomping them is a good feat for personal combat?

We've never seen any other civilization in Steven Universe; unless you count some random animals Stevonnie found on Jungle Moon.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

We've never seen any other civilization in Steven Universe; unless you count some random animals Stevonnie found on Jungle Moon.

So for all we know the numerous civilizations they stomped could have been as weak as the humans on Earth? That's not a good indicator of skill at all.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

How strong/skilled were the civilizations compared to the Diamonds where stomping them is a good feat for personal combat?

Don't know. But they've been doing for thousands of years en masse. The idea of them not coming across something impressive is laughable.