Rimuru Tempest vs Meng Hao (Slime vs Cultivator)

[Zaratthustra]

What Karmic threads?
Rimuru can also do that. With Disintergration he can attack everything from atom to soul, and can force a submission with Avarice King Mammon, which rewrites the information on his very soul to bind his mind to him. Or One-Hit Kill, which is Souei's skill which OKO's souls.

Can it kill his body-soul-mind (this mind is meant to kill him from the memory of everyone that knows him, everywhere his existence had a prolonged or important connection, and he has with rocks, grass, etc as hi Art of Rightrous was used on mountains, continents, ocean).

 

[InfiniteSped]

Where exactly is this imaginary body?

Disconnected from reality.

So, some paralel universe thing?

 

[GLHF22]

Rimuru attack can even kill someone memory who transcends time and space

 

[NeoSuperior]

It's basically any interactions, relationships, meetings, promises, grudges or whatever other sort there is between different individuals. Literally Karma, you could say. Meng Hao learned at one point how to manipulate them and if someone uses some weakling clone that he beat down, then Meng Hao can use that thread to attack the true body of that individual. It's sort of like Velgrynd's (or was it Velzard?) attack that reaches it's target across space-time.

It doesn't just "normally" work though, else it'd be too OP. I don't think Meng Hao can use it to attack Rimuru's true body unless he beats the clone first, who is just as strong as Rimuru's main body.

 

[Zaratthustra]

What is karmic thread and how its work? Since Rimuru can give fake information about himself

He can see the conceptual connection of everything in existence. In ISSTH everything is connected by Karma. If you interacted with something then a thread appers. Only those that have Transcended are not bound by Karmic threads.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Incon for now since both can deal with each other

 

[GLHF22]

What can he do to Susanoo? Which guaranteed first hit even if fate says no?

 

[Zaratthustra]

Where exactly is this imaginary body?

Disconnected from reality.

So, some paralel universe thing?

It's a dimensional space that his true body exist, the same place his Null Energy is collected.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

What Karmic threads?
Rimuru can also do that. With Disintergration he can attack everything from atom to soul, and can force a submission with Avarice King Mammon, which rewrites the information on his very soul to bind his mind to him. Or One-Hit Kill, which is Souei's skill which OKO's souls.

Can it kill his body-soul-mind (this mind is meant to kill him from the memory of everyone that knows him, everywhere his existence had a prolonged or important connection, and he has with rocks, grass, etc as hi Art of Rightrous was used on mountains, continents, ocean).

Rimuru has Space-Time Continuum Attack, which hits EVERY version of you, as evidenced when it ignored Veldora's Parallel Existence, which is a weaker version of Multiple Existence. Furthermore, he has Fallen Thantos, which enforces death so strong it effects the main body even if it's far away.

 

[GLHF22]

Its closed Dimension so nothing can enter or exit without His permission

 

[NeoSuperior]

Rimuru's absorption should be superior (could absorb Tier 4 being with his Tier 6 key). The absorption might be dangerous to Meng Hao because it's "assimilation" and works on clones too. Rimuru's absorption basically "ursurps" the target's existence and Rimuru becomes the target himself. Basically the equivalent of Rimuru taking over his target's karma.

 

[Zaratthustra]

What Karmic threads?
Rimuru can also do that. With Disintergration he can attack everything from atom to soul, and can force a submission with Avarice King Mammon, which rewrites the information on his very soul to bind his mind to him. Or One-Hit Kill, which is Souei's skill which OKO's souls.

Can it kill his body-soul-mind (this mind is meant to kill him from the memory of everyone that knows him, everywhere his existence had a prolonged or important connection, and he has with rocks, grass, etc as hi Art of Rightrous was used on mountains, continents, ocean).

Rimuru has Space-Time Continuum Attack, which hits EVERY version of you, as evidenced when it ignored Veldora's Parallel Existence, which is a weaker version of Multiple Existence. Furthermore, he has Fallen Thantos, which enforces death so strong it effects the main body even if it's far away.

Are you sure that it's in this key? Also, Meng Hao does not have multiple existence, but Karmic connection with other beings or things. I could even bring something like Reinhard connection to Mercurius if needed but that will make the whole post relevant as for him to truly die, Rimuru would have to kill a 1-C being (this one saved him in this realm by having a thread to him).

 

[GLHF22]

He can see the conceptual connection of everything in existence. In ISSTH everything is connected by Karma. If you interacted with something then a thread appers. Only those that have Transcended are not bound by Karmic threads.

We have something different here in slime verse there is VOW literaly control several parallel universe and Rimuru completely ignored it

 

[Zaratthustra]

Its closed Dimension so nothing can enter or exit without His permissio

Ji Nineteen was too in a closed Dimension that was protected by a 1-C being.

 

[NeoSuperior]

Oh right, Ciel blocking Rimuru's connection to the Voice of the World could be interpreted as cutting himself from Karma itself...

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Wrong thread

 

[InfiniteSped]

Its closed Dimension so nothing can enter or exit without His permissio

Ji Nineteen was too in a closed Dimension that was protected by a 1-C being.

That was Shui Dongliu, no?

 

[Zaratthustra]

Its closed Dimension so nothing can enter or exit without His permissio

Ji Nineteen was too in a closed Dimension that was protected by a 1-C being.

That was Shui Dongliu, no?

Yes, it's a reliant immortality. That's why I didn't bring it. Because evn if Rimuro was at his strongest can't to anything to Shui Dongliu.

 

[GLHF22]

Cmon guys what can he do to Susanoo and Beelzebub?

 

[InfiniteSped]

That's outside help tho. Plot powered at that, since Shui kept saving his ass all the time

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Not exactly outside help, seems to just be a strong type 8 kind of like one Reinhard has.

 

[GLHF22]

I have no much time here i have something to do IRL, so can he survive Susanoo and Beelzebub combo?

 

[InfiniteSped]

What's even that, dude

 

[NeoSuperior]

Reading what people are saying in this thread, it feels like this will result in a mess caused by verse-equalization issues and end in an incon from both sides arguing that their hax works while the other side's doesn't.

 

[InfiniteSped]

The best kind

 

[Zaratthustra]

Cmon guys what can he do to Susanoo and Beelzebub?

For Beelzebun he has the same thing. As I stated: Blood Demon Grand Magic: A Divine abilities that let him consume anything and increase his power.

For Susanoo he can tank it if needed. He also has Conceptual Statistics Amplification thanks to his Dao of Perfection which will help him.

 

[GLHF22]

Tyrannous Lord Susanoo: Shion's ultimate skill which is the evolved version of Shion's Unique Skill Cook, which evolved from having the ability to bring a desired result of the user into complete manipulation over the law of causality. It is an ability which purposefully causes a result that is intended.


And Beelzebub is His absorption

 

[NeoSuperior]

Rimuru's absorption is superior though. He could absorb a Tier 4 when he was still a Tier 6. Also it takes over the target's "identity", or, in ISSTH, steals the target's karma.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Rimuru has the same, as Shion was able to amp her stats with Chaotic Fate, a sub-skill of Susanoo.

 

[Zaratthustra]

As soon as Meng Hao reached Peak Dao Seeking (still spirit realm) his will was causing the magical and natural laws to be commanded by him. He even dropped permanently the entire power of 100,000 - some were fodder for his power level, some were causing him problem and some where at his level.

 

[GLHF22]

No its 2C in His side story its stated if Beelzebub out of control its Will swallow the universe

 

[Zaratthustra]

By severing the Rimuru threads he kill all his connection to everything in existence, that mean Rimuru will lose skills connected to his people thanks it them being from Chain Food.

 

[GLHF22]

Considering Yuuki absorbs A High3A attack and now High 3A merged with low 2C so we can still use this

 

[DragonEmperor23]

"Even if its Passive, still doenst matter Meng Hao do not know anything about His Imaginary body, and Rimuru can just one shot him from here "

Rimuru's range in both his High 4-C keys is only Hundreds of Kilometers, you can't hit someone in a different dimension with that.

 

[Zaratthustra]

Considering Yuuki absorbs A High3A attack and now High 3A merged with low 2C so we can still use this

Still from his 4 tier key?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Considering Yuuki absorbs A High3A attack and now High 3A merged with low 2C so we can still use this

You have to make a CRT if he has a 2-C attack that's not described to be 2-C on his profile.

 

[GLHF22]

Still from his 4 tier key?

6A

 

[Zaratthustra]

"Even if its Passive, still doenst matter Meng Hao do not know anything about His Imaginary body, and Rimuru can just one shot him from here "
Rimuru's range in both his High 4-C keys is only Hundreds of Kilometers, you can't hit someone in a different dimension with that.

Spirit Severin beings in ISSTH can attack from milions of kilometers afar. Two realm lower than Meng Hao.

 

[GLHF22]

You have to make a CRT if he has a 2-C attack that's not described to be 2-C on his profile.

Its hax so it have no tier

 

[Zaratthustra]

Still from his 4 tier key?

6A
Wouldn't that change his tier and be irrelevant? As he should not have a 4 key?