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Rimuru Tempest vs Meng Hao (Slime vs Cultivator)
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How good is their resistance, the ones of Ultimate Skill?GLHF22 said:
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How good are those resistances?GLHF22 said:
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No, if you mean the Stepphing Method. It's from his next key.Milly Rocking Bandit said:
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What's that?NeoSuperior said:
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I was referring to Rimuru.Zaratthustra said:
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Doesn't matter, he has karmic threads to it. As long as he has it Meng Hao can sever them and erase it's existence via Karmic Hex.NeoSuperior said:
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The Imaginary Space is a space disconnected from reality that keeps Rimuru away, while his clone fights. Unless you can get to this space, Rimuru cannot and will not die. Rimuru's clone is just as strong as him.
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<divclass="quote">GLHF22 wrote:<divclass="quote"> InfiniteSped wrote:
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Rimuru's true body is in imaginary space though.</div>What's that? </div>Basically, Rimuru have 2 true body, if you cant reach Imaginary space you cant kill him </div>
Meng Hao also has two bodies in this realm. His normal one and its clone that was imbued with Devilish.
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Rimuru's true body is in imaginary space though.</div>What's that? </div>Basically, Rimuru have 2 true body, if you cant reach Imaginary space you cant kill him </div>
Meng Hao also has two bodies in this realm. His normal one and its clone that was imbued with Devilish.
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Basically Rimuru have 2 true body, if you cant reach Imaginary space you cant kill himGLHF22 said:
Meng's Karma sealing is perfect for dealing with that kind of stuff. He controls the connection the real one has with the clone, and uses those connections to kill/seal the target
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What's that?Zaratthustra said:
</div>Basically, Rimuru have 2 true body, if you cant reach Imaginary space you cant kill him </div>
Meng Hao also has two bodies in this realm. His normal one and its clone that was imbued with Devilish. </div> Rimuru attack Transcends Space-time
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Wouldn't Karmic Hex be negated by the Ultimate Skill Fate Manipulation resistance that also makes any Ultimate Skill user immune to any sort of magic, escpacially status effect inducing ones and mindhax?
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Rimuru Resist existence erasure continuouslyGLHF22 said:
He can use Karmic to either sever it's connection to it or fully erase him, he did that to a being that was a realm over him and was on another dimension/plane of existence.
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Immune is NLF. If the best resistance soul hax feat for an Ultimate Skill user is 1000 and Rimuru beat that, then Rimuru still gets soul crushed.NeoSuperior said:
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As I said, negated by the inherent Fate Manipualtion Resistance of Ultimate Skill users.
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Thing is, would he even know that it's Rimuru's clone? Plus, he can create these clones infinitely with Evil Dragon Lord Azi Dakaka.
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<divclass="quote">NeoSuperior wrote:
Wouldn't Karmic Hex be negated by the Ultimate Skill Fate Manipulation resistance that also makes any Ultimate Skill user immune to any sort of magic, escpacially status effect inducing ones and mindhax?</div>
Fate manipulation is under Karma in ISSTH as those that controlled it could make the cultivator's fate be miserable or good.
Wouldn't Karmic Hex be negated by the Ultimate Skill Fate Manipulation resistance that also makes any Ultimate Skill user immune to any sort of magic, escpacially status effect inducing ones and mindhax?</div>
Fate manipulation is under Karma in ISSTH as those that controlled it could make the cultivator's fate be miserable or good.
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From what was shown, it seems like Rimuru can't resist Meng's soul attacks. The same way, if the slime can really absorb an universal black hole, then Meng probably can't tank that.
It should come down to who attacks first. In that case, Meng could do it just by looking at him.
It should come down to who attacks first. In that case, Meng could do it just by looking at him.
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Thing is, again, Rimuru has Info Analysis (which even works against Ultimate Skill users who are resistent to it), and Precognition. He can increase his thoughts to the point 10,000,000 normal, and increase his phyiscal parameters in multiple ways like Cardinal Acceleration and Fighting Spirit.
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He doesn't need to know, he can see the Karmic threads that bind them. He can also create clones as long as he not fully killed. To kill Meng Hao you need to kill him in mind, body and soul at the same time, if only one part it left alive then he can fully regenerate instantly.GLHF22 said:
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Rimuru was locked in a timeloop where he was destined to die. After he obtained an Ultimate Skill in the "newest" timeloop, he broke out from the timeloop and managed to survive.
Also reactive evolution. I remember even if the Karma threads "go after you", you can still "run away" from them. In the meantime Rimuru's true self can create counter-measures against the karma attack, even IF we assume that the karma attack works.
Also reactive evolution. I remember even if the Karma threads "go after you", you can still "run away" from them. In the meantime Rimuru's true self can create counter-measures against the karma attack, even IF we assume that the karma attack works.
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He doesn't always kill everyone around him, so, no. If he knows it's combat tho, he can just let his aura spread and that should work.
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He has absorb too, he used it in the War for Souther Domain on more than 100,000 cultivators at the same time. It absorbed their bodies, vitality life, souls and cultivation to increase his and regenerate.GLHF22 said:
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Where exactly is this imaginary body?
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What Karmic threads?
Rimuru can also do that. With Disintergration he can attack everything from atom to soul, and can force a submission with Avarice King Mammon, which rewrites the information on his very soul to bind his mind to him. Or One-Hit Kill, which is Souei's skill which OKO's souls.
Rimuru can also do that. With Disintergration he can attack everything from atom to soul, and can force a submission with Avarice King Mammon, which rewrites the information on his very soul to bind his mind to him. Or One-Hit Kill, which is Souei's skill which OKO's souls.
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Like I said. he can see the Karmic Threads, nothing can be hidden by him. He could see and attack and even reach through another dimension/plane of existence to kill and take the soul of Ji Nineteen.GLHF22 said:
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Disconnected from reality.InfiniteSped said:
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Karma is the connection between people or objects. Memories, debts, etc.Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Thing is, it seems like Meng's soul attacks are just more potent than Rimuru's, so I don't think he could just resist it. That imaginary body might work tho.
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IIRC Meng Hao's absorption only worked "directly" on weaklings, not on those who are on his power level, at least not until he beat them down, but I am not entirely sure since it's been a while since I read it (I still need to finish the remaining 400 or so chapters sometime).
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