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Is getting replaced by a future or past version of you everytime you die count as acausality?
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It'd be Type 1 then as he's immune to Time Paradoxes but nothing more.
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Damnit
wanted to wank him as much as possible. But type 1 is good enough.
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@Ant for some reason I can't post on his wall
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I don't see how existing in one point of time results in being immune to offensive causality manipulation. Unable to precog them yes. Unable to alter them by affecting their (non-existent) past self yes. Unable to make their existence become the cause of their non-existence, no.
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I should mention that Type 3 should also be Transcending Causality on top of being present in one point of time. Would that help??
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Existing in only one point in time sounds more like a sub possibility to me than a necessity.
There are even some "true" acausals who exist in all points in time.
There are even some "true" acausals who exist in all points in time.
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I'm thinking that it might be a good idea to do this similarly to the immortality page.
So various types yes, but not each one encompassing the previous one.
For example character A could exist outside of causality while character B could have the "no past nor future" kind, both would shrug off different things
So various types yes, but not each one encompassing the previous one.
For example character A could exist outside of causality while character B could have the "no past nor future" kind, both would shrug off different things
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So any suggestions or inputs on what Type 3 should be written as?
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Kal That might be a good idea, especially since type 2 and 3 to me seem more like a different mechanics type of deal than one being inherently superior to the other.
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I like Kal's idea.
It could be written like:
Type 3: Singular Existence. A character with this kind of acausality has no past or future - they exist only at a single point in time. This grants them immunity to time paradoxes - as they have no past to manipulate - as well as forms of precognition or clairvoyance dependent on viewing the future - as they do not exist in the future to be seen. However, it does not grant immunity to all forms of causality manipulation.
It could be written like:
Type 3: Singular Existence. A character with this kind of acausality has no past or future - they exist only at a single point in time. This grants them immunity to time paradoxes - as they have no past to manipulate - as well as forms of precognition or clairvoyance dependent on viewing the future - as they do not exist in the future to be seen. However, it does not grant immunity to all forms of causality manipulation.
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Understood
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Should we do something for characters that are completely unbound by the laws of cause and effect? For example:
Punch = Cause
Getting Hurt = Effect
So Punch ---> Getting Hurt
However, for this specific type of character, there would be no cause, nor effect, so they can't be interacted with by any conventional means:
Punch = Nothing
Getting Hurt = Nothing
Neither cause nor effect
Nothing <---> Nothing.
Punch = Cause
Getting Hurt = Effect
So Punch ---> Getting Hurt
However, for this specific type of character, there would be no cause, nor effect, so they can't be interacted with by any conventional means:
Punch = Nothing
Getting Hurt = Nothing
Neither cause nor effect
Nothing <---> Nothing.
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you guys talk about characters immune to me?
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Or things like the doctor, who can literally become "out of sync" with time so he's always slightly in the future
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We probably should.
Type 4: [Insert name here]. A character with this kind of acausality cannot be interacted with using conventional means, as regular causality does not apply to them. This grants them immunity to offensive causality manipulation and to paradoxes, however, it does not prevent precognitive abilities from predicting the actions of the character.
^Something like this maybe?
Type 4: [Insert name here]. A character with this kind of acausality cannot be interacted with using conventional means, as regular causality does not apply to them. This grants them immunity to offensive causality manipulation and to paradoxes, however, it does not prevent precognitive abilities from predicting the actions of the character.
^Something like this maybe?
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I would called it "Irregular Acausality" instead.
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Not sure.
Anyway, a possible downside of that ability, si that the user might not be able to interact with other beings/things as a consequence.
Also, some forms of Conceptual Manipulation, Space-Time Manipulation or Higher Dimensional Manipulation may acutallybe able to effect him.
Anyway, a possible downside of that ability, si that the user might not be able to interact with other beings/things as a consequence.
Also, some forms of Conceptual Manipulation, Space-Time Manipulation or Higher Dimensional Manipulation may acutallybe able to effect him.
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Unless you're the doctorDMB 1 said:
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"True" acausality would only be for 1-As, but we have a ton of 1-A specific stuff already
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Also, DontTalkDT might be able to help out with this. It is probably a good idea to ask him to comment.
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Regen/immortality/durability seem to have good reasons to be different for 1-As. They're all powers based around what level of destruction you can withstand, and levels of destruction are inherently different when beyond dimensions.
But causality and a few other things are independent of dimensions, right?
But causality and a few other things are independent of dimensions, right?
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Time is a dimension, causality is generally linked to time.
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Not quite. Causality is bound by temporal dimensions.
Example:
From our perspective, immeasurable speed breaks causality (the effect can happen before the cause).
From the perspective of the immeasurable character, it doesn't, because the cause happens, then the effect happens, as this character is bound by a higher dimensional form of time.
Edit: Ninja'd by Monarch
Example:
From our perspective, immeasurable speed breaks causality (the effect can happen before the cause).
From the perspective of the immeasurable character, it doesn't, because the cause happens, then the effect happens, as this character is bound by a higher dimensional form of time.
Edit: Ninja'd by Monarch
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Something interesting I found in doctor who
"Anti-time: as intractable and destructive a force to causality as antimatter is to space. Something with no past, no present, no future. A perpetuity of meaningless chaos. A Now, with no beginning or end. Elegant, brilliant, thoroughly logical... and utter gibberish."
"Anti-time: as intractable and destructive a force to causality as antimatter is to space. Something with no past, no present, no future. A perpetuity of meaningless chaos. A Now, with no beginning or end. Elegant, brilliant, thoroughly logical... and utter gibberish."
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I know that Madoka Kaname has type 3 (After becoming 2-A, she was erased from history and she is specifically not a part of any future possibility).
Granted Madoka has all the types listed so far so maybe she isn't the best example.
The DW thing that Zach posted also sounds like type 3 acausality.
Granted Madoka has all the types listed so far so maybe she isn't the best example.
The DW thing that Zach posted also sounds like type 3 acausality.
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