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Revision of Acausality Page

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Lavos is type 4 which gives resistance to Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, and Precognition.

Type 5 doesn't save anything about resistances just that they are virtually impossible to affect but guessing they have those resistances too since virtually nothing affects them.
 
I added Oryx and Drakkon for Type 4 Acausality. Though maybe Oryx could be Type 5. Maybe both. Who knows. Is Lavos Type 4?

Once the revision goes through, I'll make a thread for discussing who gets which Acausality.
 
PsychoWarper said:
So im guessing 682 doesnt count for type 4, alright ill look some more.
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682 has type 1 from its encounter with 2140. I don't believe it has other acausality feats/statements.
 
Agnaa said:
PsychoWarper said:
So im guessing 682 doesnt count for type 4, alright ill look some more.
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682 has type 1 from its encounter with 2140. I don't believe it has other acausality feats/statements.
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Ok, I wasnt sure which is why I asked, though it is staed that it "plays" by a different set of rules but the statement never mentions casuality.
 
Does absolute acausality really have to be reserved for 1-As? Completely transcending time doesn't necessarily mean you transcend space to the same degree.
 
I think he means Lovecraft style "beyond concepts of change" type acausality.
 
You can transcend acausality on one dimensional level but not another, 1-A simply transcends it on a much higher scale than all of that
 
If we go by such harsh guidelines only 1-A characters will have Type 5, and even then, only sometimes
 
Yeah, but there's a difference between that and acausality. Transcending acausality is pretty common and we shouldn't limit it to just 1-A.
 
Monarch Laciel said:
Well, we do have Type 10 Immortality and True Godly Regen which are almost always 1-A too.
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You can transcend time/causality without transcending infinite temporal dimensions, right?

Type 10 Immortality and True Godly Regen are because being immortal beyond spacial dimensions or regenerating from beyond dimensional damage is very distinct from anything contained by dimensions.
 
Can someone update the OP with Prom correction? Is more easy to look for it rather than finding it in middle of the comments.

Also, are we still looking for characters per type of acausality or are we leaving that for another thread?
 
I think people just wanted some examples for ones that weren't 1-A. Specific characters can probably be left to their own threads.
 
Since I'm on Vacation and my phone signal is going on and off randomly, I'll just say a couple of things.

I agree with Promestein's rewrite.

I believe a character can have two or more forms of Acausality if there's sufficient proof
 
Again, I'll make a thread to figure out who gets which type.
 
I mean at this point only thing left to discuss is who should get what type of acausality, which should get its own thread, i think we can update the acausality page now.
 
I'd like to get the final go-ahead from Ant, and then I'll make the thread for it.
 
Agnaa said:
You can transcend time/causality without transcending infinite temporal dimensions, right?
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No, you can't. Not completely in any case.

Causality is inherently linked to temporal dimensions/time. If you've still got another temporal dimension on top of you, no matter how many lower temporal dimensions you move through and cause their systems of causality to lie down and cry just by being there, then you have still not completely transcended causality.

Regardless, I don't care whether or not transcending causality becomes limited to 1-As. I was just bringing up a valid point.
 
I am fine with Promestein's version, so you can update the Acausality page as far as I am concerned.

In addition, the Time Paradox Immunity page needs to be updated with an automatic redirect to the aforementioned acausality page. Is another staff member willing to do so, or should I handle it?
 
Monarch Laciel said:
No, you can't. Not completely in any case.

Causality is inherently linked to temporal dimensions/time. If you've still got another temporal dimension on top of you, no matter how many lower temporal dimensions you move through and cause their systems of causality to lie down and cry just by being there, then you have still not completely transcended causality.

Regardless, I don't care whether or not transcending causality becomes limited to 1-As. I was just bringing up a valid point.
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"If you've still got another temporal dimension on top of you" is the important part. Not all fiction has infinite temporal dimensions, most only have one.

But I'm probably just misunderstanding 1-A and how it applies to temporal dimensions, or any esoteric non-space dimensions the author may come up with.
 
That is fair. If the fiction you are in has no further temporal dimensions on top of you, then you have indeed transcended causality.

Though then the question arises of what do we do in a between this person and a character from a fiction that does have further temporal dimensions
 
Done. I'll make the thread for quantifying Acausality now.
 
Monarch Laciel said:
Though then the question arises of what do we do in a between this person and a character from a fiction that does have further temporal dimensions
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Just as with abstract existence there CT is further subdivided into pseudo-causality transcendence (transcending a finite number of temporal dimensions) and true causality transcendence (transcending an infinite number)
 
@Promestein

Thank you very much for the help. Should we close this thread then?
 
Can someone update the picture to one of the ones I linked above? I feel like either are better examples of Acausality as it is now, especially the Professsor Paradox picture.
 
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