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I personally found it absurd to need a statement such as no interaction. There is probably such an expression in dkd, but there should be no need for it in my opinion.
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Reviewing Acausality Type 5 in profile pages
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Even if it doesn't, you still won't get it unless it mentions the reason for it is being outside causality
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According to acusalty definition 6D type 4 <3D type 5
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What I'm trying to say there is
If a profile has all of those listed and was Type 5 Acausality by previous standards and is now getting downgraded.
It's probably because the Acausality is getting nuked because it can be explained by another ability such as the ones being mentioned.
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Yeah bcz in fate [] is the absolute being in the verse, nobody is able to have an interaction feat + description of it are impossible so the feat in itself can't exist.
it was changed in the same thread that everything mention in the OP, acausality type 5 can be affected by higher dimmensionnal being
FoxySonicMaster108
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wait, what? 1-A Type 4 > 4D Type 5 now?
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Basically this is how we're treating it by current standards.
6D Type 4 Acausality will be more effective than Type 5 Acausality thar has no cosmological explanation/context.
Thus making 6D Type 4 Ac > Type 5. Amd that 6D T4 AC in theory (with context) could merk the floor of that lower lifeforms type 5 AC being.
Thus either something is wrong and needs changed or nuke type 5 AC
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Yes...
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I guess I missed that. The power of acausality has taken a solid blow.
FoxySonicMaster108
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That doesn't even make sense considering what Type 5 is even meant to be... Beyond Causality + Not being interactable...
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The new revision nuked the Über-invulnerability of type 5...
So type 5 Acausality scales to context or the verses cosmology (also context)
So yeah... something doesn't seem right... I agree..
Rikimarox2
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Imagine, Type 5 acausality was one of the most broken shit there was, and even higher D ******* couldn't touch you if they didn't have feats.
Now, not only the standards are extremely hard for a character to qualify for, but someone higher D than you could **** the shit out of you regardless if you have it.
What a ******* turbo nerf.
Now, not only the standards are extremely hard for a character to qualify for, but someone higher D than you could **** the shit out of you regardless if you have it.
What a ******* turbo nerf.
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The definition of type 5 officially says that you cannot defeat it by being higher dimensional, but is it renewed now? hmm somewhat surprising. that is, we accept that someone with type 5 does not exceed an acusalty system with 1A. The word "all causality systems" in type 5 also seemed to me to evaporate.
Abstractly_a_Protagonist
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Random example
If a verses cosmology has a low 1-A multiverse and it is all inside the system of causality. A character awakens and transcends the multiverse which is very detailed detailedly explained to be within the system of causality is thus transcending the causality of the multiverse. That could have potential for low 1-A T4 AC
I say type 4 because character still get interacted with under certain circumstances thus debunking him as type 5.
Edit: I think I misread your question
Bobsican
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Same way a character is "omnipotent" without being tier 0, aka, basic NLFs, cope, seethe, mald.
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then let's remove acusalty type 5 as we did with omnipotent. It's ridiculous to say don't say but let's give it a b. It goes beyond all causality systems, but if it is around its own verse, this type should be 4 or we should remove 5 completely and make it 4 because as far as I can see, there is no difference from 4 in this state.
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That is another topic, omnipotence is literally impossible to achieve in fiction.
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So we remove it, as we did in omnipotence? The concept of this is nigh-impossible to achieve.
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I am honestly being honest here. Acc type 5 concept (main sole of this nature) is being beyond all the systems and impossible to be interacted with.
If there are good statements of the first requirement, but there is no statement of the second requirement, we need to search for anti-feats. If there are no anti-feats, add it as acc type 5.
If there are good statements of the first requirement, but there is no statement of the second requirement, we need to search for anti-feats. If there are no anti-feats, add it as acc type 5.
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Not us to decide tho.
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It was my suggestion and understanding of this concept's nature — an alternative, somewhat of nuking it.
If this alternative does not work, we nuke it. I searched for over 40 profiles with acc type 5, and none meet new standards.
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pretty sure you don't need to be beyond all possible systems of causality to have it. They even adjusted it to the point that Acausality Type 5 in tier 2 doesn't mean you are beyond the system of causality in tier 1 on each dimensional hierarchy. so even someone who would qualify for this in a tier 2 structure wouldn't need to transcend the system of causality in a tier 1 structure to have it.
which IMO is contradictory and doesn't make sense with how ridiculous the standard requirement they make this ability to be. and the fact that you are TD2 in a tier 2 structure with both regular and irregular systems of causality should be enough but I guess it doesn't.
this thread is a mess. I was hoping it would discuss varieties of Type 5 in different fiction to understand it better but it just became a slugfest of profile discussion that do not meet the standard
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So to understand better right now
1 layer into boundless tier + of transcendence of all systems of causality in that said tier < 2 layers into boundless tier + + of transcendence of all systems of causality in that said tier
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What...?
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basically. but IIRC once you reach the boundless tier. Causality and systems are pretty much irrelevant already so that's not a good example to have. There is a reason it is called "Boundless"
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Ya'all making this more complicated than it needs to be.
Just look at the profiles and if it isn't exactly like the OP wants then it doesn't qualify.
If anything we keep either nuke it because no one has it or we keep it like that super OP ability that isn't actually OP but still very hard to get
Just look at the profiles and if it isn't exactly like the OP wants then it doesn't qualify.
If anything we keep either nuke it because no one has it or we keep it like that super OP ability that isn't actually OP but still very hard to get
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This.
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I was asking a question about how I understand your statement. You said that Acausality Type 5 in tier 2 is weaker than Acausality Type 5 in tier 1
What about tier 1?
Also, is it not supposed to be acc type 5 = beyond all system in that said verse? So if there is one character that is acc type 5 tier 2 in that verse, the tier 1 character still can't interact with him.
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Tier 0 is a normal tier just like any other tier, they don't have those physiology by default
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You're my god man.
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not sure about this one to be honest. All I remember was that. We cannot assume a character from a verse that is only tier 2 on its limit that is type 5 acausal to be beyond even a Tier 1 of a different verse which is likely to have a different system of causality for being qualitatively superior in dimension/reality.
As for within verse that wasn't discussed but this case is relatively very rare
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Makes sense, but even this is a controversial topic.
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tbh I'd like to disagree because that wouldn't make sense. taking in unconventional physiology granted by Higher-dimensional existence. but that is just my opinion to it
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It is my opinion as well, but I asked this once ago about boundless tier 0, and as he said, it is still a tier like any other.
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