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Reviewing Acausality Type 5 in profile pages

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Literally we can't have an Ability for just 1, 2 or 3 characters.
 
Going back to the topic at hand. I think this Thread is too much for a single knowledgeable member. Maybe assistance from staff who assisted the change in Acausal Type 5 might help with further evaluation. One person deciding whether a character fits the bill doesn't really sit right with me no matter how knowledgeable they are in the topic.
 
Should I? This seems to be discussed with multiple members and staff members. Either nuking it or making the ability standards easier.
Also elaborating more on the contradiction that current standards make higher levels of type 4 > type 5

But yes someone should
 
Exactly, if you have Avatar Creation any Anti-Feats of interaction can be entirely ignored. Then you just need statements of being beyond Cause and Effect and being untouchable/uninteractable.
Still the same tho...
 
I say we add a new type of Acausality.

Type 6- would be for those who currently qualify for the new standards

Type 5- would go back to the way it was before which is not requiring interaction statements or feats.

How are you supposed to have a story if you can't be interacted with?
 
Exactly, if you have Avatar Creation any Anti-Feats of interaction can be entirely ignored. Then you just need statements of being beyond Cause and Effect and being untouchable/uninteractable.
Honestly if you really have such a clear statement of not being able to be interacted with because of lack of causality then any interaction should be a feat for the character that does the interaction rather then the anti feat for type 5 acausal
 
Honestly if you really have such a clear statement of not being able to be interacted with because of lack of causality then any interaction should be a feat for the character that does the interaction rather then the anti feat for type 5 acausal
But the avatar is the one who gets interacted with. The character (main source/true form/concept) is still uninteractable and beyond all causality systems.
 
I say we add a new type of Acausality.

Type 6- would be for those who currently qualify for the new standards

Type 5- would go back to the way it was before which is not requiring interaction statements or feats.

How are you supposed to have a story if you can't be interacted with?
Seems type 6 is useless if you ask me. There is still no character to qualify for it. It is like an omnipotence concept (nigh impossible to achieve in fiction).
Alone, the concept of living in a system with no pure operating cause and effect is beyond our understanding. How can you explain it with your own understanding? It just becomes linear thinking for me.
 
Seems type 6 is useless if you ask me. There is still no character to qualify for it. It is like an omnipotence concept (nigh impossible to achieve in fiction).
Alone, the concept of living in a system with no pure operating cause and effect is beyond our understanding. How can you explain it with your own understanding? It just becomes linear thinking for me.
Omnipotence is definitely possible. Just write another suggverse where the MC's power is "bullshit" the ability to do whatever tf they want
 
Lemme get this straight though.

So along with the currently impossible to achieve non interaction feats, Acausality 5 is no longer some omnipotent Invulnerability hax where even if you're tier 11, as long as you have type 5, even a tier 0 can't do shit to you?

This doesn't make sense. Why still define the ability as being beyond all systems of causality? Why should causality even be tied to dimensionality in the first place?

At this point, might as well nuke type 5 as its useless.
 
So where do you draw the line between Anti-Feat and Universal Property?

Like what's stopping someone from just saying;

"The Power System of this verse allows everyone with this power to interact with Acausality Type 5."
 
Let's stay focused here...

We might be frustrated, perplexed at the new standard. Wuth that someone should make a new staff thread about it.

For now let's stay focused on finding someone.. anyone. Who qualifies and nuke everyone else
 
On a separate note though, regarding the new standards, we need to divide type 4 into sub categories as some type 4 with the new standards will clearly be beyond others.

Example: character A being said to transcend causality as a whole but lacks interaction statements (e.g anos, graham, Arceus) while character B is just in a separate system.

Character A is clearly superior to and far beyond B.
Something needs to be done about that
 
On a separate note though, regarding the new standards, we need to divide type 4 into sub categories as some type 4 with the new standards will clearly be beyond others.

Example: character A being said to transcend causality as a whole but lacks interaction statements (e.g anos, graham, Arceus) while character B is just in a separate system.

Character A is clearly superior to and far beyond B.
Something needs to be done about that
Agreed if standards of type 5 won't be changed or nuked, we need to apply this. Someone need to create staff thread.
 
So where do you draw the line between Anti-Feat and Universal Property?

Like what's stopping someone from just saying;

"The Power System of this verse allows everyone with this power to interact with Acausality Type 5."
Make a staff thread about it?

Along with pointing out the huge contradiction between higher levels of type 4 vs baseline type 4 vs type 5

Along with the possibility of the type needing nuke because <10 characters qualify
 
On a separate note though, regarding the new standards, we need to divide type 4 into sub categories as some type 4 with the new standards will clearly be beyond others.

Example: character A being said to transcend causality as a whole but lacks interaction statements (e.g anos, graham, Arceus) while character B is just in a separate system.

Character A is clearly superior to and far beyond B.
Something needs to be done about that
Someone can make a CRT for that in the future, for now though we should do what Unspeakable stated.
 
So where do you draw the line between Anti-Feat and Universal Property?

Like what's stopping someone from just saying;

"The Power System of this verse allows everyone with this power to interact with Acausality Type 5."
I've been thinking more along the line of;
An author decides to start off a verse by saying
this realm and all it's denizens along with all other possible realms/dimensions above it completely transcend, are beyond, outside, unbound from all levels of cause and effect.
The only reason they seem to follow some form of causality being that they're all beyond any level of causality
Isn't it basically impossible to get feats of non interaction with this?
 
I've been thinking more along the line of;
An author decides to start off a verse by saying

Isn't it basically impossible to get feats of non-interaction with this?
According to new standards, this is not enough, sadly. The interaction statement should be mentioned explicitly, along with the fact it is because of causality.
 
According to new standards, this is not enough, sadly. The interaction statement should be mentioned explicitly, along with the fact it is because of causality.
What if it also said those below them are incapable of interacting with them?
 
So where do you draw the line between Anti-Feat and Universal Property?

Like what's stopping someone from just saying;

"The Power System of this verse allows everyone with this power to interact with Acausality Type 5."
How can we even begin to talk about anti-feats when there are no feats in the first place?
 
In any case, Wendy from LDG qualified for Acausality Type 5 and still sort of follows the new guidelines.

She's unbound, separated, and disconnected from the laws of cause and effect.
Her "Acausality Type 5" state is confirmed to make her untouchable in terms of the rest of the world.
And when she finished her transformation into a sed state she is confirmed to make an Avatar to talk to her friend.
 
In any case, Wendy from LDG qualified for Acausality Type 5 and still sort of follows the new guidelines.

She's unbound, separated, and disconnected from the laws of cause and effect.
Her "Acausality Type 5" state is confirmed to make her untouchable in terms of the rest of the world.
And when she finished her transformation into a sed state she is confirmed to make an Avatar to talk to her friend.
Can you link the profile?
 
Another issue being from one of everything12 messages, the lines between type 4 & 5 are blurred.

Apparently, if you're only said to be in a different system of cause and effect but have non interaction feats/statements, then you're type 5
 
Another issue being from one of everything12 messages, the lines between type 4 & 5 are blurred.

Apparently, if you're only said to be in a different system of cause and effect but have non interaction feats/statements, then you're type 5
I am sure it means you can't interact with other beings from a different system (cause and effect)
 
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