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There is no way that this shit is pure skillMusashi and Regend Transcended, Space time and Existence via skill with a sword so GG
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There is no way that this shit is pure skillMusashi and Regend Transcended, Space time and Existence via skill with a sword so GG
Are we really counting that sort of "does hax BS via skill" as a thing here?So is nobody gonna talk about Ikki Kurogane from Rakudai?? And why is Zoro on the list but Mihawk isn't??? Also
Musashi and Regend Transcended, Space time and Existence via skill with a sword so GG
This is the same verse where another character, Senji Muramasa can cut through dimensions and causality through sheer skill stated in-verse lolThere is no way that this shit is pure skill
Technicaly in fate lb4 karna have train for infinity time.Does anyone even have the experience edge on Ning? Legitimately asking since he's been training and fighting for orders of magnitude longer than the age of the universe.
It's what's stated my guy its what's statedThere is no way that this shit is pure skill
Huh, cool.Technicaly in fate lb4 karna have train for infinity time.
Well my oc trained so hard he transcends your character in terms of skill. Not any other character, but just your character.My OC trained so hard that he transcends the concept of skill
I mean, it's simply a mechanic in the verseIt's what's stated my guy its what's stated
I mean......if you're so skilled you literally Transcended Space, time and Existence ,bending the laws of Dimensions using a technique on that's stated to be on the level of True Magic to attack from an Infinite number of parallel possibilities simultaneously all within a single instant via conventional swordsmanship and it was stated In CanonIn all seriousness though, skill feats should have some coherence if nothing else.
Shaving electrons of off atoms is a precision feat and thus a skill feat.
My spear thrust leading me to omnipotence over a 10-dimensional multiverse isn't.
I mean it's like a sword domain, it's not counted as skill ? It's just that his sword domain who is infinity transcended space/time to let him atk infinite time in same moment.I mean, it's simply a mechanic in the verse and something with no sense
imo it gets incomparable once you go past the level of "Superhuman skill but still kinda grounded in reality". Like at least there you can reasonably have discussions. But once you get into this "I conceptually destroyed the concept of physics by moving in a fancy way" stuff, then how do you even compare? Like how do you reasonably argue that folding space is a better "skill" feat than deconstructing someone's body via "skill"?Are we really counting that sort of "does hax BS via skill" as a thing here?
Asking cause Ji Ning usurped the will of a higher-dimensional multiverse and became one with it via his sword dao and skill, reaching a point where said sword dao gave birth to all other concepts and contained them all within itself (including all space, time, karma etc).
Granted, I'm off the opinion that these sorts of feats shouldn't really be counted as just skill nut I dunno what the rest think.
Having you sword atking infinite number of time in same time is in the same field tho. For me it's as logical than being able to cut through electron with a thing that larger than it.I mean, by that logic, I can also be the best car salesman in America via pure combat skill. I'm so skilled in combat that I can achieve feats in non-equivalent things, which kind of defeats the purpose of specifying combat skill if you're purportedly so skilled you achieve things out of the field specified. There's plenty of times verse statements are disregarded simply because they don't make logical sense and I think it applies here.
I think it doesn't actually, Using his sword technique (which is stated to be "Conventional") he reached a state Transcending Space and Time allowing him to attack Simultaneously from an Infinite number of Parallel possibilities all within a single instant... it's like Ittou Shura where Ikki enters a state of absolute concentration. I think that's within the same field here my guy........it's not like he was stated to be so skilled every single woman across the Infinite Possibilities thay exist fell in love with him (although Regend is an Absolute Chad so i wouldn't blame them kek)I mean, by that logic, I can also be the best car salesman in America via pure combat skill. I'm so skilled in combat that I can achieve feats in non-equivalent things, which kind of defeats the purpose of specifying combat skill if you're purportedly so skilled you achieve things out of the field specified. There's plenty of times verse statements are disregarded simply because they don't make logical sense and I think it applies here.
It's impossible to actually compare to anything in a meaningful way.I mean......if you're so skilled you literally Transcended Space, time and Existence ,bending the laws of Dimensions using a technique on that's stated to be on the level of True Magic to attack from an Infinite number of parallel possibilities simultaneously all within a single instant via conventional swordsmanship and it was stated In Canon
Then I don't think we can just say "it doesn't count cause its sounds too much like hax and doesn't make sense" just sayin
Again his sword technique allowed him to enter a state wherein he Transcended space and time and by Transcending space and time he could now Simultaneously attack from an Infinite number of parallel possibilities within a single instantIt's impossible to actually compare to anything in a meaningful way.
If you think you can use the feat, fine. But do so with the knowledge that the "transcend space-time, all reality blah blah" means nothing for the debate and only the actual skill, precision or predictive aspects cam be used.
And honestly, a verse calling it swordplay or conventional for its setting doesn't stop something from not being a skill feat that can be compared or analysed. There's a reason Ning jumping to an omnipresent Low 1-C that controls all concepts and laws via sword skill isn't in the feats I listed.
Which again, isn't something quantifiable or comparable in any meaningful way. Nobody is denying he did it with "sword skill" but the skill has to be debatable to mean anything here.Again his sword technique allowed him to enter a state wherein he Transcended space and time and by Transcending space and time he could now Simultaneously attack from an Infinite number of parallel possibilities within a single instant
So him Transcending space and time is kinda part of his technique
How is it not debatable?? If you're so skilled you can Literally warp Dimensions then surely>>A certain green haired Swordsman with three swords (who might just be the most overrated Swordsman in all of fiction)Which again, isn't something quantifiable or comparable in any meaningful way. Nobody is denying he did it with "sword skill" but the skill has to be debatable to mean anything here.
Ji Ning fused the concept of fate into his sword via comprehension of his sword techniques and Dao. That's a skill feat in technicality but it's pretty much nonsense when talking about precision, versatility etc. So it isn't used.
Lets not get fallacious here alrightHow is it not debatable?? If you're so skilled you can Literally warp Dimensions then surely>>A certain green haired Swordsman with three swords (who might just be the most overrated Swordsman in all of fiction)
Unless you're going to sit there and tell me that Zoro>>>Sasaki and Musashi because their best Feats aren't "Quantifiable" in a meaningful way???
Hahaha I'm just asking if that's how we're doing things here seeing as how skill feats are being discounted for "not being quantifiable" so I'm just wondering if you would by the standards seemingly set say that Zoro>>Mushashi and Kojiro even though Kojiro can warp Dimensions and Musashi can outright destroy "possibilities" via sword skill???Lets not get fallacious here alright
I mean we can just use their other feat and scalling without that not like it's the only they can doHahaha I'm just asking if that's how we're doing things here seeing as how skill feats are being discounted for "not being quantifiable" so I'm just wondering if you would by the standards seemingly set say that Zoro>>Mushashi and Kojiro even though Kojiro can warp Dimensions and Musashi can outright destroy "possibilities" via sword skill???
Yeah I know I know, but that fight from Shimousa is without a doubt the best Skill feat for either (although Musashi killing Chaos might also be up there) so I don't know about discounting Feats like that because "They're not quantifiable" doesn't seem fair to me seeing as how again those are their best skill featsI mean we can just use their other feat and scalling without that not like it's the only they can do
If i have not made myself clear, i will do so now: I have no more authority on this matter than anyone else here. Everyone has their own view on the topic, so the only fair and reasonable thing is to put it up for debate and see what sticks.
Yeah i know but i can understand why they don't really want to account a feat of destroying every possibility to only one unavoidable or creating an atk that have the infinity possible movement in, in same time being count as a feat.Yeah I know I know, but that fight from Shimousa is without a doubt the best Skill feat for either (although Musashi killing Chaos might also be up there) so I don't know about discounting Feats like that because "They're not quantifiable" doesn't seem fair to me seeing as how again those are their best skill feats
Because fundamentally, nothing that's happening with the dimension warping is a quantifiable aspect of skill in anyway. Is there precision involved? A wide plethora of moves? Analytical prediction and instinctive reaction? Rapid growth and learning? Really, anything.How is it not debatable?? If you're so skilled you can Literally warp Dimensions then surely>>A certain green haired Swordsman with three swords (who might just be the most overrated Swordsman in all of fiction)
If these characters somehow have absolutely no other skill feats beyond the one that looms like it came from chuuni land? Yes. Else, you can compare their proper skill feats and see who's the best.Unless you're going to sit there and tell me that Zoro>>>Sasaki and Musashi because their best Feats aren't "Quantifiable" in a meaningful way???
I see so Zoro>>Musashi and Sasaki hahahahahahaha that's fine I guess you do youBecause fundamentally, nothing that's happening with the dimension warping is a quantifiable aspect of skill in anyway. Is there precision involved? A wide plethora of moves? Analytical prediction and instinctive reaction? Rapid growth and learning? Really, anything.
It's hax that performed via swordplay and the like that's somehow called skill. I guess in the context of the setting sure but good luck debating a position with a feat that can't even be debated.
If these characters somehow have absolutely no other skill feats beyond the one that looms like it came from chuuni land? Yes. Else, you can compare their proper skill feats and see who's the best.