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It's actually High 6-C to Low 6-B.PaChi2 said:
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Resistant to Absolute Zero and Statistics Amplification for Sternritter
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@Sigurd
Heat of the sun and AZ aren't remotely the same thing..i think you are underestimating the capabilities of AZ..durability can survive heat and extreme cold,but once it gets to AZ, it completely ignores durability and just crumble your atoms.i may be bringing too much physics to this but I believe that was what Kubo intended considering the way As Nodt died at the end.
Heat of the sun and AZ aren't remotely the same thing..i think you are underestimating the capabilities of AZ..durability can survive heat and extreme cold,but once it gets to AZ, it completely ignores durability and just crumble your atoms.i may be bringing too much physics to this but I believe that was what Kubo intended considering the way As Nodt died at the end.
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I'm not but this thread is unecessarily long.
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Yeah we could have if you didn't ask a bunch of nonsensical questions about blut mechanics.
We know it's absolute zero and that he resisted it,what we're discussing is others scaling due to method of resistance.
We know it's absolute zero and that he resisted it,what we're discussing is others scaling due to method of resistance.
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This isn't your decision buddy,it scales because of blut unless you want to keep pushing willpower.
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Exactly,not hard to understand.
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Yhwach and the elite should scale for sure.
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Something about Vegeta a character irrelevant to Bleach mechanics,and if I remember correctly he think As Nodt broke free via his willpower and not Blut potentially.
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@Dr Fix
Because we dont cross scale resistances in nearly any situation unless there is very big solid amount of evidence behind it. And by big I mean crystal clear.
Specially in AZ's case, none besides Vegeta has resistance to it. Not beerus, not Whis, not Daishinkan. Would be logical to say they'd survive something Vegeta can? Of course, do we scale vegeta's resistance to them? Nope.
Same here, As nodt resisted AZ. Fine. Is it logical to assume that any SR stronger than him can? Hell yeah. Should we give bleach a special treatment? I dont think so.
Because we dont cross scale resistances in nearly any situation unless there is very big solid amount of evidence behind it. And by big I mean crystal clear.
Specially in AZ's case, none besides Vegeta has resistance to it. Not beerus, not Whis, not Daishinkan. Would be logical to say they'd survive something Vegeta can? Of course, do we scale vegeta's resistance to them? Nope.
Same here, As nodt resisted AZ. Fine. Is it logical to assume that any SR stronger than him can? Hell yeah. Should we give bleach a special treatment? I dont think so.
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It's like your completely ignoring the method of resistance,which was done through a generic technique every stern can do witch As Nodt having no natural affinity with the usage of Blut.
What your doing is generalizing everything into 1 package as if they're the same serious.As Nodt has no special defensive traits to his superior scale.
What your doing is generalizing everything into 1 package as if they're the same serious.As Nodt has no special defensive traits to his superior scale.
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It's not vague at all since your the only one who seems to be confused about the method,you even went as far as to say it was willpower and not the actual defensive technique he always keeps on that I posted of him starting with during 2 different scenarios.
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I am impressed by the fact that it is no longer applied. It is worth remembering that Gerard's Blut also worked against this, besides Nodt himself receiving absurd temperatures coming from Yamamoto and Rukia.
Spiritual beings are made up of Reishi, Humans by Kishi, which in this case would be matter, spiritual beings possessing this kind of resistance would be very common.
Spiritual beings are made up of Reishi, Humans by Kishi, which in this case would be matter, spiritual beings possessing this kind of resistance would be very common.
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Saying "we don't cross scale resistances unless it's crystal clear" isn't really an explanation tbh.
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I agree with PaChi2 and Shadow. We don't cross-scale resistances unless there's unequivocal evidence for it. "Should have" isn't good enough argument tbh.
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More instances of this happening, to different sternritters would help a lot to scale the resistance. But with only one feat you are running into the "hasty generalization" fallacy (aka As Nodt can resist it, therefore everyone stronger than him can).Lightbuster30 said:
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I guess I can see where you're coming from. Just because you put up a forcefield to block transnutation, doesn't nexessarily mean someone with the same force field could.
Just to be clear: My argument towards you was neutral on AZ yet more about the argument itself. It didn't really feel like a satisfying explaination. But as of now I'm against AZ.
Just to be clear: My argument towards you was neutral on AZ yet more about the argument itself. It didn't really feel like a satisfying explaination. But as of now I'm against AZ.
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The best you can do is cross scale to characters with better Blut than As Nodt since we do have feats of character's with better or worse Blut resistances in regards to temperatures / esoteric abilities (Haschwalth and Fake-Yhwach resisting Yama's Bankai while As Nodt, NaNaNa and Baaz-B were singed by a lower temperature Shikai by Yama or even Bazz-B's Burner Finger 1 burning through Quincy Girls).
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It's good thing our reasons are more then good enough,I've seen dozens of profiles scale resistances with even less.
The Elite are clearly superior in every way,your gonna need a valid reasoning as to why they wouldn't scale.I mean one from the actual source material.
The Elite are clearly superior in every way,your gonna need a valid reasoning as to why they wouldn't scale.I mean one from the actual source material.
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Its not like we don't have any other feats besides this one since we have Gerard who resist Toshiro Bankai ability who can freeze all matter in front of him, and I don't understand with your problem since the rest of Sternritter can use the same ability with As Nodt.PaChi2 said:
@Lightbuster30 Except all of them can use the same forcefield? just because 1 M1a2 tank can resist RPG 7 doesn't nexessarily mean any other M1a2 tank can do the same thing? except in this case all M1a2 can and will resist RPG 7.
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Also, shouldn't Rukia also has resistance to Ice Manip and AZ to some extent?
The temperature of her body dropped below zero and can still move and at one point it even reached absolute zero temperature (though she only can keep that only for 4 seconds).
And another interesting stuff is, Byakuya able to touch Rukia in bankai with no ill effect whatsoever.
The temperature of her body dropped below zero and can still move and at one point it even reached absolute zero temperature (though she only can keep that only for 4 seconds).
And another interesting stuff is, Byakuya able to touch Rukia in bankai with no ill effect whatsoever.
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I think so based on how it works.
She makes her body AZ temperature,and even then she can still be affected by it if she isn't careful.
She makes her body AZ temperature,and even then she can still be affected by it if she isn't careful.
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Actually is Byakuya clothes made of Oken?
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Prett sure yeah. Everyone who trained up there seems to have gotten a set each.
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