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@Chariot190 Gonna need a tl;dr for your comment
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Relooking at Mario's stats: the sequel
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The background for King Boo's dimension is space, pretty clear cut.
Does it scale to AP? Durability? Hax? Is it even an applicable for an offensive purpose? Don't know, don't care. All I know is it's space, saying it isn't is extremely dishonest and saying it isnt just for the sake of it.
Also that post isn't even that long, it shouldn't even take you more than 20 seconds to read it.
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Okay, what else? They are most likely stars, I mean, a space-y background.
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The general consensus here is that those are actual stars, so King Boo seems accepted.
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Also Saman, having gone though the thread for the starry sky feats you're kinda twisting what was said in that thread, repurposing it here (ignoring it was almost entirely you trying to argue that point), it was almost unanimously ultimately agreed that as long as them being stars is a reasonable assumption from what could be seen with reasonable context and that they look as much and are at least consistent within the game's art, they're more than likely stars. The only person I think that had issues with the looks like a duck thing is you and one other admin, which is fair honestly, as long as it's within reason, but you're taking it the extreme here though and trying to apply that scrutiny to what's evidently space with no real reason to assume otherwise.
The real issue and the issue that was and is being talked about on that thread is starry sky feats actually apply to stats and tiering really, and in that case, don't know, I can't say if this feat actually scales offensively to King Boo or Luigi, all I can conclude for certain is that there's stars and space.
The real issue and the issue that was and is being talked about on that thread is starry sky feats actually apply to stats and tiering really, and in that case, don't know, I can't say if this feat actually scales offensively to King Boo or Luigi, all I can conclude for certain is that there's stars and space.
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I have to agree with Chariot here. Also, none of this "Well neither of us is right so we're at an impasse" BS here. Occam's Razor exists for a reason, and it would completely side with the idea that he just created the stars in the realm since it takes fewer postulates. The idea is also supported by how they visually look the same as other stars in the game. If the devs really intended for something like this to not be the case, then they'd not make them look like that.
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I also agree with Chariot as well. Also, I unlocked the Mario and Luigi profiles so Maverick can edit them back in.
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Donezo, added the durability feats. You can close the profiles. @DarkDragonMedeus
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So what's accepted and what still needs to be discussed?
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You might be able to argue King Boo's feat can't scale to his offensive power
Mario and Luigi now have a new 4-A durability feat from Brobot, and King Boo's feat is essentially 100% accepted.
Power Stars are currently "ambitious" and Bowser's pop-up book feat still hasn't been debated.
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Bowser's Pop-Up Book feat looks fine to me
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I have relocked them, but I can come back for more in depth debating.
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Definitely the speed feats need to be discuss
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I thought this thread was about AP not speed
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It is. Speed feats should be done in a completely different thread. This entire thread has literally been about AP, so I'm not sure why we're trying to introduce speed into the equation now.
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I still don't agree at all, but the conclusion has already been reached and the feat accepted by most people, arguing further would just be pointless and counterproductive, so I'll just drop the thing.
Also, I wasn't talking of you, Chariot, when I asked for politeness, but thanks for addressing that.
Also, I wasn't talking of you, Chariot, when I asked for politeness, but thanks for addressing that.
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No they don't. They are 100% legit and come not just from Galaxy but also Party.
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I'm just facepalming, there was a lot of disagreement over them in the last thread
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Then do it in another thread
Cuz this is kinda irrelevant to this topic
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Remember the one CRT per verse rule
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It's against the rules to have more than 1 Mario crt thread though
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He's saying to just do it after this one.
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I think there's some 4-A feats left to discuss otherwise we should be good @Antvasima
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@Hagane_no_Saiyajin Save the speed feats for the next thread.
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Late for work, but I suppose it's worth debating Power Star context or why it scales to the main cast or not. Then Yoshi's Story's pop up book feat is next. But late for work, need to come back.
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Pop-Up book is definitely fake and not real.
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We should also probably use Japanese scans for the Pop-Up Book feat. But anyway, I think the reason people were skeptical about it was people saying, "All he did was transform Yoshi's Island into a pop up Book. So just an Island level feat." But just because the object you transformed is only Island sized, doesn't mean the world you created was only Island sized. It is possible for pocket realities or universes to be created from things otherwise much smaller. It's again, more like the portal is Island sized.
But, most indexing sites described the Pop-up book world as 6 parallel worlds/dimensions called pages. I know DatOneWeeb had a source that it happened in the blink of an eye. So we have timeframe cleared up. But we still very much need a specific source from a Japanese origin translation. The in game transcript does mention 6 worlds, but I haven't seen specific context. And we know using wikis doesn't really count.
DatOneWeeb I heard is sick; he's been tested positive for you know what. But maybe someone else can find a Japanese scan of some of the intro statements.
But, most indexing sites described the Pop-up book world as 6 parallel worlds/dimensions called pages. I know DatOneWeeb had a source that it happened in the blink of an eye. So we have timeframe cleared up. But we still very much need a specific source from a Japanese origin translation. The in game transcript does mention 6 worlds, but I haven't seen specific context. And we know using wikis doesn't really count.
DatOneWeeb I heard is sick; he's been tested positive for you know what. But maybe someone else can find a Japanese scan of some of the intro statements.
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Well here's the japanese opening for Yoshis Story, no idea which part talks about the island being transformed but going by the english version it should be within the first minute or so. Personally I never really thought of this as an actual 4-A feat, just some really good reality warping/immersion from Bowser, dudes got some nice hax up his sleeves.
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I am sorry to hear that, and hope that he will get well soon.
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I think Matt's concern was whether or not the stars are actually real stars, considering they're in a pop-up book
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Hello, I'm feeling a bit better so I'll give some input.
Dusty, the feat can't be immersion since Bowser didn't use immersion on a pre-existing book, he just turned everything into a book. Despite the text saying island, you can actually see the sun get affected if you rewatch the scene of everyone getting affected by the spell. I'll ask my friend if he can translate, though it might take some time.
Dusty, the feat can't be immersion since Bowser didn't use immersion on a pre-existing book, he just turned everything into a book. Despite the text saying island, you can actually see the sun get affected if you rewatch the scene of everyone getting affected by the spell. I'll ask my friend if he can translate, though it might take some time.
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