Reinhard VS GEOM but it's not Outerversal

[Vizorus69]

You guys want this battle so much, but everyone keeps using 1-As when you can use 4-As instead to get somewhere.

Reinhard Heydrich VS The God Emperor of Mankind

Both are in 4-A.

Standard Battle Assumption

Type 8 immortality restricted.



Reinhard

 

[ALRF]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

F**k you Viz!!!

 

[Vizorus69]

Well, let's refrain from all insults and "NOOOO" for now.

Let's have a civil discussion, and actually get this match-up somewhere.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

exactly

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

No,this thread need to die already,i don't care what you say Viz,you make feel salty right now!

 

[ALRF]

With immortality no longer restricted Reinhard not gonna die

 

[Vizorus69]

Oh right, forgot about the apoptosis.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

When did Reinhard become 4-A?

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Scaling to Nakiri Kuubou who the true form is hella stronger and scaled to Amakasu ragnarok gods.

 

[ALRF]

When did Reinhard become 4-A?

In a looong distant land

 

[DMB_1]

Emprah seals.

 

[ALRF]

Emprah seals.

Does he do it in fights against human beings?

Can one with an ability to create a construct that ignores the laws of a 1-A and that destroy coordinates and distance to reach any place it want?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

With immortality unrestricted Reinhard can still die, he'll just reincarnate without his memories, because that's what happens to him when he dies in DI

 

[ALRF]

Nah, Apoptosis doesn't work like that

 

[Vizorus69]

Nah, Apoptosis doesn't work like that

Isn't that why Reinhard have type 4 and 8? Well I rstrict that now.

 

[DMB_1]

Pretty sure that if that's the case, Reinhard would die. Badly.

 

[ALRF]

Pretty sure that if that's the case, Reinhard would die. Badly.

^^

And we no longer accept restricting immortality

 

[Vizorus69]

So, is it fairer to be restricted or not?

 

[ALRF]

Don't restric it

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Nah, Apoptosis doesn't work like that

That's literally what happens ALRF.

This isn't even "you're interpreting the quote wrong".

He dies, Merc is still alive, and he reincarnates not knowing who he is.

 

[ALRF]

Not even how it works

Reinhard was reincarnated due to Marie's own law taking over Mercurius'. Heck Reinhard even say Mercurius was "defeated". You're taking things out of context again

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Literally stated the reason why he didn't come back was because he acknowledged Marie and Ren new world

Still didn't stop him from coming back and fighting against Hajun

And in KKK he was regenerating back even after getting blasted by Hajun, but after Mercurius died. Reinhard ceased to exist too

This is just gonna be one thing after another

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Conceded. Bloody retcons.

 

[Yamatoryujin]

I mean Reinhard straight up tells them that he'll be back if they **** up when he's "dying".

Edit imgur https://imgur.com/a/BOzGISw

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Don't remember that but but I'll rewatch the scene

 

[Wokistan]

If sealing was to work, it'd be fine and in character for emprah to use due to the precog. It worked on Drach'nyen, who the emprah couldn't get rid of otherwise, so maybe, though personally I'm doubtful. It's just not ooc for him to use it against an ostensibly human opponent due to precog.

 

[ALRF]

Does he do it in fights against human beings?

Can one with an ability to create a construct that ignores the laws of a 1-A and that destroy coordinates and distance to reach any place it want ignore that?

 

[Kaltias]

The Emperor's sealing is more like a sort of transmutation. He sealed Drach'nyen forcing it to become a sword.

The daemon isn't dead, but it can't change shape and can't use most powers (even if normally it should be able to shapeshift back in its demon form)

 

[ALRF]

The profile made it sound like the sword was already made for him so that he could seal the daemon

 

[Wokistan]

Drach also resisted everything else, including the infamous erasure, so it may be on that level. The warp is a place where anything can happen at any time, no true reality exists except what you impose on it, and belief is strength. The chaos God's are otherwise by far the strongest warp entity since Ynnead is incomplete, having basically absolute Dominion over the warp, yet the emperor is able to oppose the laws imposed by them and act as the living seal for all 4 at once, if that counts for anything.

 

[Kaltias]

Well yes. It's something like, he took a sword, put Drach's essence inside of it, so now the demon is the sword

 

[Wokistan]

It looks like 4A rein's range caps out at multiversal, so BFR could work.

 

[ALRF]

@Wokistan Would that even matter to Reinhard's Gladsheimr which is a singularity? By singularity, as in the fact that it exists outside the laws of not only Mercurius but also outside the Throne domain, an all encompassing tool? Moreover the fact Gladsheimr ignores the laws of a superior 1-A so i dunno if bringing other 1-A is enough

@Kaltias that's quite different than transmutation though

And i'm quite unsure if being outside of a 1-A object and a 1-A law with these two qualifications allowing it to travel anywhere is enough for Outerversal range. If not Multiversal+ is always a thing

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Can either even kill the other?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

"reinhard becomes tier 1 lol"

 

[Schnee_One]

If the spear is 1A he definitely can since Emprah relies on the immortality of his High 1B self

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Although, what's stopping emperor from power nulling?

 

[ALRF]

If the spear is 1A he definitely can since Emprah relies on the immortality of his High 1B self

There's arguments. But i'm not gonna open that can of worms

 

[Schnee_One]

Although, what's stopping emperor from power nulling?

The fact that he still can't kill him