Regarding OPM striking strength

[AstralKing7]

Borors should still be gettin downgraded we just need to fix his regular ap which effects Garou. I aslo agree with Dzhind of course, they dont need any High 6A rating because they dont have any calc for that and just fighting each other wont give them high 6A stats either

 

[Qawsedf234]

So nerf Garou's stats to 6A, and nerf Boros's Striking Strength/Durability to 6A. Then make his AP key have a 6A and a High 6A/5B rating? Well I'm okay with that I guess.

 

[AstralKing7]

yeah 6A for his normal attacks and 5B for his CRSC

 

[Antvasima]

So if Ryukama disagrees with what was being suggested, should we close this thread?

 

[Qawsedf234]

We could get input from other Knowledgeable members like Golden Void or Celestial Pegasus. But if Ryukama has the finally say on the matter then yeah, close the thread since he's already voiced his disagreement.

 

[Ryukama]

Nah I'm fine with whatever the majority agrees with. I don't want to instantly shut something down based on my opinion alone.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay, feel free to ask other staff members to give input as well then.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I still personally agree with Ryu with the statistics remaining unchanged.

 

[Golden_Void]

Ryu FRA

 

[Dzhindzholia]

According to that,we should scale every characters strongest move to their casual Striking Strength,since everyone agrees.

 

[Antvasima]

Can you summarise what you specifically intend to do?

 

[Dzhindzholia]

It is simple,not to scale his striking strength from star cannon.

 

[Antvasima]

And do Ryukama and the other staff members agree about this.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Thanos is 5-A and high 6-B in ST,Human torch is low6-B and 5-B with Supernova,Kaguya is 5-B and 5-A with ETSB etc.All of them have special powerful techniques that don't scale to their ST for reasons,why is Boros a special one?

 

[Antvasima]

Isn't this due to that ONE said that Boros and Garou were evenly matched? If Boros has a trumph card able to kill Garou in a single strike, that is not particularly the case.

 

[Damage3245]

Being evenly matched doesn't mean that Garou's max output or durability has to rival Boros' Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon. The majority of Boros' fighting is done without that technique.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Yeah. Their High 6A AP would be like >80 Petatons while the CSRC is at least 570 Petatons.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@Antvasima

At the same time he added that Boros has advantage in long ranged attacks and that Garou has chances only via his greater skills not sheer power.And this is not fare to scale Boros's most powerful attack to Garou's ST,then rescale Boros's ST from Garou cause they can harm each other.

 

[Andytrenom]

Yeah. Their High 6A AP would be like >80 Petatons while the CSRC is at least 570 Petatons.

Where does that value come from?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I do not have a strong opinion about this, but if the other the staff members here disagree, I do not think that we can apply this change.

 

[Thatoneguy78]

We basically got to scale Boros ST to Garou's dura rating because of ONE's statement

 

[Qawsedf234]

> Where does that value come from?


From previous converstations about this, the shockwaves of Saitama's serious punch since Boros's remained intact afterwards. Well mostly.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@Antvasima

Francly,I don't understand why the staff disagrees with it,non of them really debated or expressed their opinions here,everyone automatically agreed with Ruy.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@Qawsedf234

This is outlier,PIS and not a durability feat,explained numerous times.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Is it either? Boros being gibbed by Saitama isn't enough to warrent a downgrade in my view considering even the moon jump was 0.000002% of his minamal power output.

 

[Andytrenom]

> Where does that value come from?


From previous converstations about this, the shockwaves of Saitama's serious punch since Boros's remained intact afterwards. Well mostly.

But he died after that attack, how can it scale to his durability?

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Because he was destroyed with lesse more powerful attacks,and now you are trying to say that he can tank redirected Star Cannon and Serious Punch.No offence but arguing with you is pointlesse,we talked about that thing numerous times no one agrees that it is a durability feat.

 

[Qawsedf234]

> But he died after that attack, how can it scale to his durability?

The reason I've heard is that a decent amount of his body remained intact despite have no energy. If it isn't enough to warrent the High 6A rating then both him and Garou are 6A via scaling to his ship/Saitama's moon jump.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Anyways I guess I'm convienced enough to turn my vote in favor of a downgrade to 6A Striking Strength and Durability for Boros with a seperate CSRC key and 6A AP, Striking Strength, and Durability for Garou.

 

[AstralKing7]

yeah i dont see the reason it should stay the same at all. A statement is being taken out of context as well. Why should his ap from his strongest attack scale to his normal attacks?? That doesnt make sense at all when we have similar characters who are in the same boat but rated weaker in normal attacks compared to their strongest. Boros shouldnt be a speical case

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I am neutral about this, as I think that I mentioned previously.

 

[Andytrenom]

I remember the statement only mentioning how Boros vs Garou would be an interesting fight, and not clarifying whether Garou would actually be able to match Boros's absolute trump card or not.

If we want to take the safe approach then Garou should be 6-A. So as much as this hurts me personally, I support the downgrade.

 

[Maraderchik]

I have a question. How did you scale Boros AP when he didn't use CSRC, but use this energy to fight? Or where did this energy go? Without CSRC Boros is 6A but all this energy that Boros use on this attack will not magically disappear and he pretty much can use it to boost himself like he did it against Saitama (twice, first time when his armor was broken and second when he used Meteoric Burst).

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Garou did survive a serious headbutt; while it may not be 100%, it's still the same league as the Serious Punch that repelled CSRC. So that's a justification for Garou having Planet level durability. Boros also was able to remain conscious and talk before he died from a blast that was technically stronger than the original attack. So Boros at the very least should have a likely Planet level. Garou is technically even more durable, so that's another reason to keep his durability rating.

I'm fine with Boros having a striking strength downgrade, but his durability should stay the same IMO. Garou should also not be downgraded at all.

Also, I know this is off topic, but I noticed so many people keep changing the thread's topics in which some of them have nothing to do with the thread. Like, here, I see character names which none of them are from OPM. Someone did something similar to the Rule Violations report thread.

 

[Damage3245]

The Serious Headbutt completely destroyed his arm. That's not a great durability feat. If Saitama's head hit Garou's head or torso then he'd be completely dead.

 

[AstralKing7]

i agree if his arm got destroyed it shouldnt scale to his durability

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It would have destroyed his entire body if his durability was that much weaker though.

 

[Damage3245]

It would have destroyed his entire body if his durability was that much weaker though.

How so? If a characters take a hit on their extremities (say if they got their finger punched for example), would you expect the rest of them to just explode if the energy delived to their finger was higher than their overall durability? Or would just the finger be destroyed?

 

[AstralKing7]

Example Naruto and Sasuke. They both had their arms destroyed from rasengan and chidori but we dont scale their durability to that at all and their attacks were low on chakra

 

[Assaltwaffle]

With enough energy the body can be ripped apart even if a small portion is hit. People have lost arms from being struck in the hand and have had torsos destroyed from having their arm destroyed.

Energy is distributed across the body, not just the single area. While this energy falls off, a sufficiently powerful blow to even a small body part could probably destroy the body.