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Record of Ragnarok Revision

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I don't think Poseidon should scale to Zeus Adamas had no idea what he was doing he was severely underestimating his little brother. That being said the god of the sea is still a monster only someone like Hajime from arifureta could take him on equally in terms of skill. Wow I kinda feel bad for those other gods now if the other gods are nothing compared to the first three then doesn't that make most gods less than fodder?
 
Zeus is clearly the strongest. I also think Poseidon shouldn't be scaled to Zeus. I wish we knew how strong Ares is
 
Poseidon is directly labeled as "The most Fearsome God." And "Zeus Enalios." ( Zeus of the Seas. ), has direct statements of controlling all oceans. I think it's safe to scale Poseidon to Zeus or at least Thor.
 
He controls the sea but can he use it in combat? Here's the thing we don't known how good his water manipulation is so far we've just seen him split the water around him. I think power scaling him to Thor is fare although it seems Poseidon is faster than him.
 
I see no issue getting him scaled directly to Zeus, quite honestly. He's a big deal, a really big ******* deal, and literally treated like the epitome of what is to be a God in a way.

I really doubt his attitude would have brought him far, especially with the likes of someone goofy like Zeus around, without some power behind him.

But perhaps at best it could earn him a possibly.
 
Scaling him to Zeus would be a far cry from what he's actually capable of i would say Multi Content is fare considering the fact that he controls the oceans. The reason he's feared is due to his indifference to gods and humans and skill he struck down Adamas without hesitation his own brother. Most gods are small fries with the mentality of a 5-10 year old of course they would fear a guy like that.
 
Why would it? Zeus has never shown any big destructive feats, and his only "big feat" is the time punch thingy that he didn't even have or need when facing his father Chronos, the dude that represents time, and when he witnessed the Big Bang.

Both of them are literally no different, there's nothing massively impressive shown in each of their fights. Rather, Zeus looks way more helpless in his if it wasn't for his amped form.
 
Poesidon is a psychopath who seems to kill anyone who doesn't fit his definition of s "god" he looked ready to kill the gods who were cheering him on. You have a guy who's highly mentally unhealthy who wields power far above most gods who's indifferent to those of his own race and killed his own brother it would be strange if the gods didn't fear him.
 
Poesidon did not show any 2-C feats and we shouldn't just assume that because he's older then the Big Bang he's a universe buster or able to withstand attacks of that caliber.
 
Except they didn't just kill him, they praised him despite this same attitude. If he was so feared due to this, they would have never done this. This is an extremely flimsy argument because there's literally no reason to assume someone from Zeus' own pantheon, compared directly to Zeus, and even killing another of the Olympian 13th (at that time) is immensely below him.

If being older than the big bang is not enough for the rating, it isn't enough for Zeus. Simple as that, there's no cherry picking. You literally lose nothing giving the only dude so far being so directly compared to Zeus a possibly when there's no counter feat. There is being on the safe side, and then there is being just needlessly paranoid - you are being the second.
 
Except they didn't just fear him, they praised him despite this same attitude. If he was so feared due to this, they would have never done this. This is an extremely flimsy argument because there's literally no reason to assume someone from Zeus' own pantheon, compared directly to Zeus, and even killing another of the Olympian 13th (at that time) is immensely below him.

If being older than the big bang is not enough for the rating, it isn't enough for Zeus. Simple as that, there's no cherry picking. You literally lose nothing giving the only dude so far being so directly compared to Zeus a possibly when there's no counter feat. There is being on the safe side, and then there is being just needlessly paranoid - you are being the second.
 
There I no reason Poesidon should be 2-C let's assume heaven exists in a higher realm than the universe if they watched the Big Bang from a safe distance in that realm he don't deserve 2-C. And the statements of Zeus being able to destroy heaven is iffy. The reason Poesidon is compared to Zeus is because the guy is his brother it's common for people to compare family members that doesn't mean the guy directly scales to Zeus. I like profiles to be as accurate as possible I'm not being paranoid what you said was kinda rude.
 
So long as you believe Zeus is not 2-C either then I don't see why are people arguing. Your logic is consistent with itself so its just a difference in opinion for the scaling.
 
Poseidon should most certainly scale to base Zeus at the very least, again he has several statements about his power being top tier, hell he's even referred as the Most Fearsome of the 12 Olympians.
 
Here's the thing we don't know how strong most of the Olympians are so it's kinda hard to power scale Poesidon to them Ares is their strongest war god and he lost to a teenager with no skills or battle experience. My guess is most of them are probably stronger than most (trash ahem) gods except for Aphrodite sorry but I don't think that woman trained a day in her life. Also we're not sure how the Olympians scale to other pantheons of various religions so that statement might not mean much.
 
I see no reason Poseidon can't get the tier or at least a possibly, just that.

Far too many assumptions just to discredit stuff. Occam's Razor is a thing.
 
So for Lu Bu this is something I completely overlooked but he and red hare are able to communicate would it be ok to add animal communication or something along those lines but add a side note that it's limited to red hare?
 
I mean we can make a basic profile for them by scaling them to average gods then listing volond under techniques and transformation or shapeshifting and fusion under abilities. What do you guys think about presence manipulation for Kujiro? Brunhilde didn't sense him when he was near so I think he can hide his presence.
 
There isn't really a presence manipulation, from I've seen, a character got stealth fr it, which Kojiro already has.
 
Then it'll be changed to type 1 immortality.


Also shouldn't all combatants get soul manipulation and Resistance to soul manipulation for all of them being souls and being able to attack each other?
 
The only reason I see combatants getting soul manipulation if their Volund fusion with the valkerie fuses their soul and body otherwise no. The souls in Shuumatsu no valkerie seem to have physical forms so I don't think they would have resistance to soul manipulation maybe there's some weird mechanism in heaven that prevents humanity from killing each other with their souls in which case they have limited soul manipulation residence but I don't think they deserve resistance to soul manipulation.
 
The souls being psychical doesn't mean shit, ask Bleach for example. Them being solid souls doesn't take away from the fact that they are still souls regardless, combatants fight and harm each other all the time, ergo soul manipulation in the form of soul damage.
 
The Prince of Counters said:
The souls being psychical doesn't mean shit, ask Bleach for example. Them being solid souls doesn't take away from the fact that they are still souls regardless, combatants fight and harm each other all the time, ergo soul manipulation in the form of soul damage.
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I already said this like 2 or 3 times. Why is this still going on?
 
What Prince said. A soul is a soul and being able to affect one warrants soul manip. What you are thinking of is NPI which is only gotten if the soul is intangible.
 
Well it does matter. We don't give soul destruction to magical girls in Madoka for example for being able to harm their soul gems.
 
Well 2 wrongs don't make a right. If a soul is literally made physical and tangible, then you don't need soul manipulation to damage them.

@100 Megaton what part?
 
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