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Record of Ragnarok Revision

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Can somebody provide an easy to understand TL;DR summary here?
 
Antvasima said:
Can somebody provide an easy to understand TL;DR summary here?
For the most part, we are in agreement for speeds and Powers and Abilities, though we are still discussing content such as Type 4 Immortality and the validity of certain AP statements. There likely isn't much else to discuss once we finishing discussing those matters
 
So who plans to create a draft profile for Jack the Ripper and Hercules? Next chapter one of them will die and it will be the final part of their match I think we've seen all of jacks cards but Hercules still has a couple of weapon forms we haven't seen yet.
 
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I haven't seen anything to warrant them having it. At most Zeus has it in his Adamus form but for the rest of them I ain't seeing it.
 
If accepted that Zeus tanked the big bang, it would be him hurting someone wjo can hurt him. He also beat kronos, who is time itself (The personfication of time), alos the iffy destroy heaven comment. All indications of zeus power are all in the universal ranges, regardless if iffy.

Also, i meant Low 2-C, not 2-C. I'll change that
 
I think Zeus watched the Big Bang from heaven he didn't actually tank it and while Kronos is the Titan we didn't really see what he was capable of so we shouldn't just assume he's the personification of time. Also Zeus never displayed anything near universe+ during his fight with Adam the majority of things in Shuumatsu no valkerie should not be taken seriously as every character in it tends to heavily exaggerate ones power etc.
 
If a supposed Big Bang is inaccurately presented as a purely physical explosion, and a character withstands it, we tend to treat it as a 3-A feat. If a character generates a 4-D spacetime expansion that creates an entire universal continuum from scratch, it is treated as Low 2-C.
Also, tanked? I don't get that implication from reading it. And that whole Kronos thing is just... sigh. Look it's not even accurate to mythology in the sense that Kronos and Chronos are different people. Also I think Statements as "the personification of" don't cut it here and don't indicate being in the universal range at all.
 
Kojiro speed: Finished

Soul Manipulation: having it based on the destruction of the soul was said to be iffy, however, the gods are still able to interact and hurt the warriors who are souls of their former selves. It also seems they would get non physical interaction based on the soul manip page.
 
It kinda seems like the souls in Shuumatsu no valkerie have physical bodies so they aren't just souls. Thoughts on age manipulation for the humans?
 
I guess you're right so should we add age manipulation to the humans profiles? It seems like sasaki Kujiro was able to choose his appearance and age for ragnarock.
 
No, he wasn't able to "pick", it was automatically picked because after death, he chose to continue training, therefore, since human warriors are made to fight in their peak, Sasaki's peak is that of a 400 year old man
 
Kujiro Sasaki wasn't Summoned he choose to appear as a old man. Brunhilde said "Why take this form" which is a odd choice of words I think this hints that Kujiro choose to appear like that.
 
so what are the thoughts on soul manip and NPI?

Also I just said kronos since I couldn't remember the spelling
 
PowerToScale said:
so what are the thoughts on soul manip and NPI?
Unless you want to argue that they are physical despite being just soul (as in their souls are physical) or that they have bodies and their destruction destroys the soul even though it doesn't happen to normal living humans when they die they must have them.
 
HajimexYue forever said:
If you guys believe people can't choose their age in heaven in Shuumatsu no valkerie I'm not really going to argue about that.
No, I think it should be discussed, you may be on to something. Can you get the scans of Sasaki's summoning?
 
As long as we're pacific about what type of soul manipulation they have I don't have a problem with it. They can merge with a valkerie and that valkerie takes the form of a divine weapon of the users choice. The humans in Shuumatsu no valkerie can't really harm souls but the gods seem to be able to.
 
Kujiro Sasaki wasn't summoned when Brunhilde and Guire we're discussing who should face the god of the sea he hide his presence and appeared behind them saying he would go next. Also I forgot what's NPI?
 
Rather than being summoned I think it's more accurate to say they were called upon. All the participants were already in heaven by the time ragnarock started so after convincing Lu Bu(still haven't gotten over his death) to fight and choosing the participants during the fight Brunhilde most likely gave them a heads up saying you were chosen to fight for humanity to which all of them accepted. The order in which they would wasn't decided though.
 
I don't really have a problem with either of those but you should add a note saying that humans soul manipulation is limited to fusing with a valkerie.
 
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