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It's the first time I've seen this, it's also the first time I've seen any form of Shiva being above any form of Zeus in a tier list.
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Record Of Ragnarok Discussion Thread #1
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Adam literally scales to Zeus himself in speed, in addition to having footwork speed amps, what puts Lu Bu faster?
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Lü Bu is the strongest non-divine being with no powers, he's just got a dog in him
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I underestimated Kojiro, until I updated him.
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Never underestimate the goat.
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Heimdall not being able to keep up with Lu Bu and Thor once they get serious, Lu Bu dealing with Mjölnir from his blind spot, being relative to Thor > Loki who was only hyped at fighting Adamas etc. Bro is built different.
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I’m curious. In what way did you underestimate him before rereading? Most people have him really high on their lists with a bunch thinking he could beat Adam after R3 ended.
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Why are you using Heimdall as a measuring stick...?
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I don't know.
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Cuz his eyeballs work? Like, should we dismiss Hermes and Ares seeing Poseidon afterimages or …?
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Based on the logic of Heimdall being used as a speed measuring stick Zeus is still faster anyway cause Zeus > Poseidon and Poseidon > Heimdall.
I don't even agree with this logic but even using it you're wrong.
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Which part are you talking about? The one before the first page?
Because that's Zenon advertising, like an editor's note.
It's not even a thing that's in the volume.
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Reading back Heimdall was still able to see their movements anyways. He never straight up says he can't see their movements, and then proceeds to accurately describe the movement of both Lu Bu and Thor's Hammer in detail literally immediately after saying "I can't keep up!" In a vague manner meant for more hype than anything.
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We do hate Aarang Scans in this house
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that's why I put "Ninja'd"
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I understand it's from the spin off, I just wanted to know the page.
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Lü Bu's flag throwing feat could result in an interesting number, mayhaps
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not sure, i just remembered it from somewhere
Honestly, Strongest Nord will mean a lot once we see Odin in action
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Reasons each fighter was picked
Lü Bu: One of the few fighters that can actually match Thor, at least with base Mjölnir, in raw power. Would've stomped Thor if Brünhilde's prediction about Járngreipr had been right.
Adam: Picked due to Brünhilde not wanting the gods to get the lead, put against Shiva. Adam would've been a great match against Shiva since he's one of the best hand-to-hand fighters and he outclasses Shiva is raw power. Divine Reflection is the perfect counter against Tandava since it'll just copy it no matter what.
Sasaki Kojirō: Elected himself to go up, nonetheless, Brünhilde gets the final say. Kojirō is basically the only fighter that can keep up with Poseidon's speed, especially after training nonstop for four hundred years.
Jack the Ripper: Picked specifically because Brünhilde knew Heracles would be fighting due to his honor and how greatly he's respected. Due to his honor, Brünhilde fed him to Jack who fought entirely with tricks. By the time Heracles made the first step, Jack was on step fifteen. Heracles is also one of the few gods that would let Jack get away with most of his bullshit.
Tameemon Raiden: Put up against Shiva since he's only of the few humans that can match him in raw power and keep up with him in a fist fight. A class between martial artists, Raiden may be a little slower but he's able to take multiple hits well, which is good since Shiva has Tandava.
Buddha: Buddha was picked by Zeus to fight and betrayed the gods, Brünhilde had counted on him switching back to humanity but had no influence over who he'd fight and just hoped he'd merc'd his opponent.
Qin Shi Huang: While outclassed in terms of power, Qin's fighting style counters Hades's use of brute force. Bubbles basically ****** Hades over since he had no way of avoiding them by the end (Coating himself in blood was a good idea, but it was done to activate Demos which led to his defeat)
Nikola Tesla: Tesla sure....He sure.....Um, he was sure able to land one direct hit during his fight, yeah. I guess that's better than none. Was able to barely survive Chaos by using Tesla Coils, not sure if Brünhilde even knew about this technique.
King Leonidas: Much, much stronger than his opponent and can take a hit really well. One of the strongest humans, Brünhilde was probably hoping that Apollo's cockiness would lead to him making a dumb decision that would end with Leonidas scoring a direct hit on him (More needs to be seen with this fight)
Lü Bu: One of the few fighters that can actually match Thor, at least with base Mjölnir, in raw power. Would've stomped Thor if Brünhilde's prediction about Járngreipr had been right.
Adam: Picked due to Brünhilde not wanting the gods to get the lead, put against Shiva. Adam would've been a great match against Shiva since he's one of the best hand-to-hand fighters and he outclasses Shiva is raw power. Divine Reflection is the perfect counter against Tandava since it'll just copy it no matter what.
Sasaki Kojirō: Elected himself to go up, nonetheless, Brünhilde gets the final say. Kojirō is basically the only fighter that can keep up with Poseidon's speed, especially after training nonstop for four hundred years.
Jack the Ripper: Picked specifically because Brünhilde knew Heracles would be fighting due to his honor and how greatly he's respected. Due to his honor, Brünhilde fed him to Jack who fought entirely with tricks. By the time Heracles made the first step, Jack was on step fifteen. Heracles is also one of the few gods that would let Jack get away with most of his bullshit.
Tameemon Raiden: Put up against Shiva since he's only of the few humans that can match him in raw power and keep up with him in a fist fight. A class between martial artists, Raiden may be a little slower but he's able to take multiple hits well, which is good since Shiva has Tandava.
Buddha: Buddha was picked by Zeus to fight and betrayed the gods, Brünhilde had counted on him switching back to humanity but had no influence over who he'd fight and just hoped he'd merc'd his opponent.
Qin Shi Huang: While outclassed in terms of power, Qin's fighting style counters Hades's use of brute force. Bubbles basically ****** Hades over since he had no way of avoiding them by the end (Coating himself in blood was a good idea, but it was done to activate Demos which led to his defeat)
Nikola Tesla: Tesla sure....He sure.....Um, he was sure able to land one direct hit during his fight, yeah. I guess that's better than none. Was able to barely survive Chaos by using Tesla Coils, not sure if Brünhilde even knew about this technique.
King Leonidas: Much, much stronger than his opponent and can take a hit really well. One of the strongest humans, Brünhilde was probably hoping that Apollo's cockiness would lead to him making a dumb decision that would end with Leonidas scoring a direct hit on him (More needs to be seen with this fight)
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Tesla shouldve been sent to fight Shiva tbh.
He lacks the raw physical power Raiden has, but can somewhat make up for it with the explosive force behind his punches. Has his own footwork and speed amps to keep up with Shiva’s, and is MUCH smarter and trickier then Raiden is due to his suits gimmicks.
Thematically, one of mankinds greatest “creators” going up against one of the gods greatest “destroyers” would be pretty interesting as well.
He lacks the raw physical power Raiden has, but can somewhat make up for it with the explosive force behind his punches. Has his own footwork and speed amps to keep up with Shiva’s, and is MUCH smarter and trickier then Raiden is due to his suits gimmicks.
Thematically, one of mankinds greatest “creators” going up against one of the gods greatest “destroyers” would be pretty interesting as well.
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Please can we continue discussing this?:
I would like to be able to finish that thread, so I can continue with this:
The current problem is to see if Shiva's LS feats work in his base state on or only after the various amps he has in his fight, depending on the result Zeus may or may not scale in LS
I would like to be able to finish that thread, so I can continue with this:
The current problem is to see if Shiva's LS feats work in his base state on or only after the various amps he has in his fight, depending on the result Zeus may or may not scale in LS
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probably not
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Will Lu Bu remain the same?
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As far as I know... yes
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Welp going to make one then when I wake up tomorrow
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Remaking Jack The Ripper's profile (Record of Ragnarok) because it's shit
The virgin old profile VS Sigma male new profile Should be obvious everything is better. Has references and scans and is all dolled up for new users with all the necessary info. Discuss. Votes: Agree - @Deceived3596, @Dragonite007, @Phsccarvalho, @AnAverageUsername, @Kisaragi_Megumi...
Can I put my ballz in yo jawz
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A group of people from my country are digitizing the shuumatsu guidebook. But don't even try to get your hopes up, it seems that the book talks more about the (real) history, personalities, curiosities (from the real world) than about the fighters and their skills themselves.
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On the topic of scaling, is there any agreed upon top tiers that scale to 5-B and lower characters that down scale to Low 5-B+?
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From what I saw, not much.
The guide seems to focus more on the character they were based on and interesting facts about it than on the manga itself.
Like talking about the mythological origin of Bel, or talking about what Apollo was like in Greek mythology.
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Funny to think about how Jack the Ripper looks old but is only in his mid-20s-early 30s
He's younger than Anne, who was born in 1951
He's younger than Anne, who was born in 1951
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For lifting strength feats that could be calced for future use (Most top tiers already scale to a calc of Lü Bu throwing some rocks :
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Which humans do you think Adam wins? Considering that it does not store the copied techniques (since they are currently possible)
Speaking of which, do you think Adam can use divine reflection to see the movements of humans? Like, okay he can't copy, but what about seeing? In the same way as with the fist that surpasses time.
I didn't go into this subject in my crt, so I think at the moment it's accepted that he can still use his power to see movements.
Speaking of which, do you think Adam can use divine reflection to see the movements of humans? Like, okay he can't copy, but what about seeing? In the same way as with the fist that surpasses time.
I didn't go into this subject in my crt, so I think at the moment it's accepted that he can still use his power to see movements.
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