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Record Of Ragnarok Discussion Thread #1

AnAverageUsername said:
Oh HELL no, Okita vs Loki all or nothing.
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Shit match-up, got me like
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Anubis match-ups
1. Simo Häyhä (Death vs Death, they were two normal individuals before a war broke out, when that happened both were put in a position of respect amongst their peers. Simo was also a dog breeder, so he understands animals. Simo can use similar tactics he used while fighting in the snow while fighting in a sandy arena)
2. Souji Okita (Justice vs Justice, Okita takes on the god of death after dying in bed rather than on the battle field)
3. Rasputin (Guy who doesn't die vs Death God, honestly after Simo vs Apollo didn't happen you should give up on this happening)
4. Kintoki (Death God vs Demon Killer. Kintoki also has a lot of animal friends, so he understands them as well)
5. Nostradamus (Helheim Match-Up, god of the underworld vs First human cast into Helheim...Yeah I got nothing)

Loki match-ups
1. Rasputin (Two mystic tricksters that are in positions of power who are both loved and hated. Rasputin's immortality would be quite useful for surviving against Loki's tricks if they ever catch him off guard)
2. Nostradamus (Annoying assholes, Heimdall quits upon seeing them enter the arena at the same time. Magic vs Magic battle...Assuming Nostradamus uses magic)
3. Simo (Fighters who don't fight fair. The god of deceit takes on a man who will be hiding at a long distance for almost the entire match. Against Loki's tricks, Simo must make his shots count. Also, due to Loki being Norse and a jötunn, it would make sense for him to fight in a snowy arena)
4. Okita (They sure did interact that one time)
5. Kintoki (...Honestly, I don't even think Kintoki will fight in tournament, he's probably going to get into some shenanigans while investigating Siegfried.)

Susanoo match-ups
Okita (Japanese swords men with sister issues. A good ol' sword duel the fiercest sword wielders in heaven)
Kintoki (Japanese warriors, one a small town boy who rose to success from his god nature, the other a god sent to Earth to learn how to be humbled)
Simo (Gun vs Sword fight, Simo is used to adverse weather conditions)
Rasputin (...Rasputin dealt with bad weather conditions as well)
Nostradamus (...Yeah)

Odin
Nostradamus ("It is as foreseen" These two future see-ers probably have a beef after Nostradamus destroyed the bifrost. Humanities joker takes on the final boss)
Simo (The greatest marksman vs the God whose weapon never misses. Humble soldier vs Ruler of the Norse Pantheon. Odin is Norse, so it makes sense for him to fight in a snowy arena.)
Rasputin (Immortal magical *************)
Okita (Okita fighting last would be hilarious since he's been wanting to fight since Round 5. Said he'd take on any god, Odin included. Would be fun to see people mald over him being humanities savior)
Kintoki (...)
 
Brünnhilde folded with these last two fights

Tesla and Leonidas were horrible opponent for Beelzebub and Apollo. They barely landed any attacks. Leonidas did more damage to his opponent though, I'll give him that (Leonidas is meant to be one of the strongest human fighters, he's behind Lü Bu, Adam, and Raiden Tameemon, and Apollo doesn't seem like the most durable person out there.)
 
CharlesZaGreat said:
Brünnhilde folded with these last two fights

Tesla and Leonidas were horrible opponent for Beelzebub and Apollo. They barely landed any attacks. Leonidas did more damage to his opponent though, I'll give him that (Leonidas is meant to be one of the strongest human fighters, he's behind Lü Bu, Adam, and Raiden Tameemon, and Apollo doesn't seem like the most durable person out there.)
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Even a Greek W comes at the cost of a Greek L
 
PowerToScale said:
Relativistic Leo
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Pretty sure relativistic is what the creator had intended for these characters to cap out at (Except for Zeus and Adam). Ares reacting to Zeus's near light speed jab should've indicated that, even if they feat for Adam dodging it is ftl

Though we could go the route of feat > statements, a tad lame in my opinion but some of the shit that Hermes and Zeus say do exist just to hype characters up. Like when the tried hyping up Telsa's weak ass final move. That shit was so ******* ass bro, got pushed to the side like it was nothing.


So, either we keep things the same and put Apollo's arrows and just higher or we have new scaling

Apollo with bow - Light Speed
Zeus, Adam, and possibly Poseidon and Kojirō - FTL (Via their feats and Zeus saying he's the only one that can handle Apollo's arrows. Adam scales to Zeus and Ares had difficulties keeping up with Poseidon's movements with using 40 Day Flood)
Rest of the cast - Relativistic (Keep superior to Ares, scale to Leonidas's feat)
 
Apollo turning himself into an arrow and Leonidas shield dash clash wouldn't count for a speed feat for Leo?
 
Huesito88 said:
Apollo turning himself into an arrow and Leonidas shield dash clash wouldn't count for a speed feat for Leo?
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Eh, not really. Wouldn't make much sense for Leonidas to randomly be able to keep up with Apollo after being overwhelmed by his regular speed for most of the fight and not being able to react to his regular arrows
 
CharlesZaGreat said:
Pretty sure relativistic is what the creator had intended for these characters to cap out at (Except for Zeus and Adam). Ares reacting to Zeus's near light speed jab should've indicated that, even if they feat for Adam dodging it is ftl

Though we could go the route of feat > statements, a tad lame in my opinion but some of the shit that Hermes and Zeus say do exist just to hype characters up. Like when the tried hyping up Telsa's weak ass final move. That shit was so ******* ass bro, got pushed to the side like it was nothing.
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Never disrespect HIMkola Wesla like that
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CharlesZaGreat said:
So, either we keep things the same and put Apollo's arrows and just higher or we have new scaling

Apollo with bow - Light Speed
Zeus, Adam, and possibly Poseidon and Kojirō - FTL (Via their feats and Zeus saying he's the only one that can handle Apollo's arrows. Adam scales to Zeus and Ares had difficulties keeping up with Poseidon's movements with using 40 Day Flood)
Rest of the cast - Relativistic (Keep superior to Ares, scale to Leonidas's feat)
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Agree with this
 
Things that need to be fixed for Record of Ragnarok

Strength:
Lü Bu, Thor, Zeus, Adam, and Beelzebub (Scale to statements of Mjölnir being able to shatter the Earth and defeating the world serpent, Jörmungandr. Beelzebub's Sorath Samekh is stated to be able to repel Mjölnir. Beelzebub is stated be the strongest god in Helheim, putting him above Hades...At least with vibrations. Chaos is a forbidden move that even scared Zeus)

Shiva and Raiden (Scale to statements of Shiva being able to destroy the world on a whim and being able to burn the world to ash in Tandava Karma, both are meant to be some of the physically strongest fighters in the tournament. Shiva reshaped a mountain just from fighting Rudra)

Poseidon and Kojirō (Partially scale to a young Zeus, since Adamas had consumed the blood of Kronos and Poseidon effortlessly "killed" him. Kojirō should get an additional key since he improved over the course of the fight)

Buddha and Pāpīyas (Buddha was confident in taking on Zeus and Great Nirvana Sword - Zero is stated to be the strongest völundr. But ignoring that, Buddha scales to Pāpīyas who caused tons of destruction in Helheim. Hades states that it was rebuilt and there imagery of buildings being destroyed, meaning half of Helheim being destroyed is referring to it as a civilization and not a dimension. As such, building level seem appropriate based off what was show cased. Zerofuku was able hurt Buddha when they were punching each other and the cataxestrophe's large form was able to threaten Buddha enough to use Ahimsa)

Qin Shi Huang and Hades (Qin survived attacks from Hades, which were stated to be similar to Poseidon's but a heavier single thrust instead multiple rapid thrusts. If that doesn't work, Hades scales to Qin who beat the massive demon, Chi You. We could probably calc his GPE)

Leonidas and Apollo (Leonidas is portrayed as one of the strongest characters in the series, a real brute. His attacks were stated by other characters to be able to seriously damage Apollo if they were to connect once. Leonidas, with a single swing destroyed a huge portion of the arena)

Heracles and Jack the Ripper (Heracles destroy many building during his fight with Jack, Jack was able to harm him with weapons and cut a building in half)

Tesla (Sucks ass. Landed one direct hit on Beelzebub the entire fight, only managed to make him cough out a little bit of blood. Most of the damage that Beelzebub took during that fight was done to himself. A warped punch only managed to crush Beelzebub's finger. Beelzebub with his shield isn't too impressive, being basically one shot by a Hades one clearly wasn't trying. No idea what to scale him to besides his individual Tesla coils being able to counter Chaos. This doesn't scale to his regular attack despite being power by them since Tesla coils when used at full capacity shatter, which doesn't occur when Tesla is performing regular attack)


I've discussed lifting strength stuff earlier, if anyone wants to look back at that. It mostly potential feats that can be calced
 
CharlesZaGreat said:
Poseidon and Kojirō (Partially scale to a young Zeus, since Adamas had consumed the blood of Kronos and Poseidon effortlessly "killed" him. Kojirō should get an additional key since he improved over the course of the fight)
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or a correction.

It is said in the original that Adamas has the blood of Chronos (obviously because he is his son) and not that he drank the blood of Chronos.

Remember, until the buddha fight, the translations are bad.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
or a correction.

It is said in the original that Adamas has the blood of Chronos (obviously because he is his son) and not that he drank the blood of Chronos.

Remember, until the buddha fight, the translations are bad.
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Then we'll need to fix Poseidon's current profile since that's what it says on it
 
You know what actually, when Pāpīyas is reborn, he creates a large storm cloud. So that could probably be used as a justification for strength (If we stop scaling everyone to Ares because of Heracles have "the strength of Zeus")
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CharlesZaGreat said:
You know what actually, when Pāpīyas is reborn, he creates a large storm cloud. So that could probably be used as a justification for strength (If we stop scaling everyone to Ares because of Heracles have "the strength of Zeus")
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We don't have UES in shuumatsu or some statement that it is so strong that it changed the weather, so it's just weather manipulation
 
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