Really small kirby CRT

[The_Pink_God]

64 starry skies would be enough for a + or Nah?

 

[The_Pink_God]

Even tho it's 16 starry skies × several dozens to a few hundred but eh

 

[DaReaperMan]

no idea, I don't know the AP of a single Starry Sky feat

 

[BlastX]

64 starry skies would be enough for a + or Nah?

I think it's enough for 3-C

 

[DragonLord]

So my general assumption here is that Jamba Heart = Master Crown because Wispy Woods is turned from fodder to a threat with them correct?

 

[The_Pink_God]

no idea, I don't know the AP of a single Starry Sky feat

1.688e63 Joules
That's 1 starry sky

 

[DaReaperMan]

1.688e63 Joules
That's 1 starry sky

and in FOE?

 

[The_Pink_God]

So my general assumption here is that Jamba Heart = Master Crown because Wispy Woods is turned from fodder to a threat with them correct?

According to the chain scaling
Ye

 

[The_Pink_God]

and in FOE?

1.688E+19

 

[DaReaperMan]

1.688E+19

Hmm, does this x 64 reach into ZettaFoe?

 

[BlastX]

With 36 Hearts it would be borderline 3-C and can upscale because it's part of the scaling chain.

64 should be more than enough.

 

[The_Pink_God]

Hmm, does this x 64 reach into ZettaFoe?

Idk can 1.08032e+24 FOE reach the ZettaFOE range?

 

[The_Pink_God]

With 36 Hearts it would be borderline 3-C and can upscale because it's part of the scaling chain.

64 should be more than enough.

Noice

 

[The_Pink_God]

So now this has officially turned into a "Let's make Kirby 3-C" CRT cuz according to the calc it would be 3-C

 

[DaReaperMan]

With 36 Hearts it would be borderline 3-C and can upscale because it's part of the scaling chain.

64 should be more than enough.

That should be fine then.

 

[The_Pink_God]

1 agreement counted

 

[Lord_JJJ]

So Void and those who scale to him will be 3-C? still so low, but you can count me in agreement

 

[The_Pink_God]

2 counted

 

[Antvasima]

Isn't (1.688 x 10^63) Joules x 64 = 1.08032 x 10^65 Joules, which is roughly 10 times less than the lower border for 3-C, and as such roughly 5 times below the lower border for 4-A+?

 

[The_Pink_God]

BlastX said that 32 was already enough for 3-C
Now, who made the math wrong?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Hmm, I think Ant makes a point

 

[Antvasima]

Well, it is very important to actually confirm that the math is correct before we accept these types of revisions.

 

[The_Pink_God]

Well, it is very important to actually confirm that the math is correct before we accept these types of revisions.

Would you kindly ping BlastX so he can explain himself then?

 

[DragonLord]

I’d say Starry Sky x 64 as the Lowball with “Likely Higher” added would be a alright compromise since we don’t really know how many Hearts there were and it seems not everyone agrees with the jamba heart scaling

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

@BlastX

Please explain your math to us.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I’d say Starry Sky x 64 as the Lowball with “Likely Higher” added would be a alright compromise since we don’t really know how many Hearts there were and it seems not everyone agrees with the jamba heart scaling

I'd say 4-A, likely 3-C should be enough, since there are people who do agree with the Jamba Heart scaling

 

[The_Pink_God]

Again
It is "Several Dozens" to a "Few Hundred"
And we have only been focused on the "Several Dozens" part
We didn't touch the "Few Hundred" one

 

[DaReaperMan]

Where is the solid proof that there are more then 24 Jamba Hearts?

 

[Antvasima]

It would need to be at least roughly 624 times greater than a starry sky feat to qualify for 3-C.

 

[The_Pink_God]

So do people have been doing the wrong calc all this time or what?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Thank for doing the work we suck at Ant, then a + should be reasonable on a "likely"

 

[DaReaperMan]

So do people have been doing the wrong calc all this time or what?

Only Blast's calc was wrong, the known Jamba hearts come out if stacked to 384x Starry Sky AP, but I don't agree with the stacking, i agree with 64x Starry Sky AP based on Master Crown creation

 

[The_Pink_God]

Even if we took the High-End which would be would be on the 400-500 it still wouldn't make it into 3-C so back to the 4-A+ CRT we are

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

I'd say 4-A, likely 3-C should be enough, since there are people who do agree with the Jamba Heart scaling

Cries in more FF7 matches

 

[DragonLord]

How does this sound for Void?

At least Multi-Solar System level (Can create 4 Master Crown replicas with ease), Likely Multi-Solar System level+ (Made of the condensed power/combined energy from most Jamba Heart pieces, the Three Mage-Sisters, and Hyness, all of which were merged into a singular, complete Jamba Heart that is Void Termina; The complete Jamba Heart was previously conformed of several dozens or even hundreds of Jamba Heart pieces, power which should have been replicated as the complete Jamba Heart was reassembled. Required to be fought by Kirby & three Star Allies to be defeated, leaving the former unconscious for an unknown amount of time after their fight [See note below]), Potentially Galaxy Level (The amount of Jamba Heart pieces that make up Void Termina are described as “countess”, even one Jamba Heart is capable of making the likes of Wispy Woods pose a threat to Kirby)

 

[DaReaperMan]

How does this sound for Void?

That sounds good

 

[The_Pink_God]

So according to my friend

1 starry sky = 1.688e63 Joules = 1.688E+19 FOE
Using the 64 multipliers that would make
1.688E+19 FOE × 64 = 1.08032e+24 FOE
Which is 1.080 NinaFOE

So unless my friend did the calc wrong, Kirby would definitely be at the 3-C range

 

[The_Pink_God]

How does this sound for Void?

Looks great actually

 

[Eficiente]

I don't really like the idea of giving a higher tier based on upscaling, but it's something we do in the wiki. I was ok with a + and was hoping only for that, I have no opinion on 3-C.

Also, something to keep with with:

1. The pink hears/Friend Hearts were from the Heart Spears (the spear impaling the Jamba Heart) getting shattered into those pink hearts.
2. They regrouped by the end of the game and came back to being spears much like the Jamba Heart was getting its pieces back.
3. The spears were able to do that even tho at least Kirby (if not other Star Allies too) got fused with a scattered pink heart. Meaning that they don't need all the pieces for it.
4. In Heroes in Another Dimension there were 120 pink hearts around that should have come from the spears, which again are already regrouped as spears.
5. Thereby, the Heart Spears scattered into way more than 120 pink hearts at the start of the story, to the point of the pink hearts getting back together as 4 spears leaves 120 pink hearts as leftovers. As in disarming a clock or a car and building it up w/o using some parts insignificant enough to don't matter.
6. Assuming the Jamba Heart works the same way, then it also had way more than 120 scattered pieces. But the assumption only comes out of they having similar powers.

If you wonder how did those pink hearts get into Another Dimension then the answer who knows, same reason as to why the spears were also there, and maybe a similar reason as to why the thoughts of foes possessed by Jamba Heart pieces also got into Another Dimension (See the gallery in the Jamba Heart profile), they have similar powers after all. It doesn't have a reason to be but it can't be ignored because it's important in the plot of that mode.

 

[The_Pink_God]

120????
Jesus Christ this thing is just increasing more and more