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So I got a question. Based on the backstory of Rayman 2, it seems that Polokus created everyone first and then created time. So would that give everyone Resistance to Time/Void Manipulation or just give them infinite speed?
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Rayman General Discussion Thread
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The lore you are talking about is a bit lacking in details so I am not sure whether to say they moved in a timeless void or not. According to this wiki's rules for speed, "Timeless Voids, i.e. areas within a setting that lack time or exist outside of the flow of time, cannot be used to grant Infinite speed." So I think it would be "Possible Resistance to Time/Void manipulation" at best imo.
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Tbh, I feel that MFTL+ Rayman was long overdue.
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The only characters it might not apply to are the Rabbids due to having only partial continuity with the Rayman series, though they probably have a few more speed feats that haven’t been considered yet.
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Wouldn't the Rabbids still be MFTL+ even if they aren't fully canon to the series via scaling to Rayman? This is only if the Razorbeard feat gets accepted.
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Maybe? I suppose it depends on whether Razorbeard’s feat applies to reaction speed. Of course, Rabbids are also capable of piloting ships for interstellar travel if the story of Rayman Raving Rabbids 2 is any indication.
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Do we have a specific timeframe for that feat?
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No unfortunately. Their ships just show up at Earth at the beginning of the game.
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Then I doubt that we should use it.
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So, remind me, since we have the heights for Razorbeard and the Rabbids, what feats would be worth calculating with them?
Mainly with speed and lifting strength since we're pretty good with what we have in AP and durability, though anything works.
Mainly with speed and lifting strength since we're pretty good with what we have in AP and durability, though anything works.
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The only one I can think of at the moment is the reaction speed feat of Rabbids dodging space debris while traveling to the Sun from the same mini game as the other Sun feat. Nothing else for Razorbeard AFAIK; I put the space flight feat you calced in a blog already.
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I've added the height scans to their pages in case we need those for calcs at some point
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What about that one minigame where the Rabbids survive an explosion that sends them to space?
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Which one's that again?
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It’s from the TNT minigame in Raving Rabbids 2, though I think something similar happened in the ending of Rabbids Go Home. I don’t think it would be higher than our current calcs, but I’m no expert.
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If I had to guess, it would probably be around City level. I suppose it could just be another supporting calc.
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Somebody link me that minigame
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I'm not sure how to calc that seeing how we don't see the actual explosion, unless you want me to calculate the kinetic energy of them being launched that high xD
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I'd assume you would calc the kinetic energy as the explosion we do see are fairly small.
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I guess while we are on the subject of Rabbids feats, here are some I have noticed before, but am unsure if they are useable/useful as calcs:
Rabbids Go Home Ending (though it doesn't look like the Rabbids themselves tank the explosion)
Rabbids Big Bang gameplay (Rabbids casually knocking each other into orbit)
Rabbid gets shot out of a cannon into space (also from the same Sun feat minigame in Rabbids TV Party)
So basically a whole lot of blasted into space feats.
Rabbids Go Home Ending (though it doesn't look like the Rabbids themselves tank the explosion)
Rabbids Big Bang gameplay (Rabbids casually knocking each other into orbit)
Rabbid gets shot out of a cannon into space (also from the same Sun feat minigame in Rabbids TV Party)
So basically a whole lot of blasted into space feats.
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Looking at that Michel Ancel twitch stream link again where he talks about Rayman's height, he also mentions the heights for Globox (2 m) and Teensie (1 m). I guess I can add that to their respective pages.
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2 m seems small for Globox, he's usually like twice Rayman's height.
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I genuinely cannot tell if you are joking or not.
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Jesus, sorry lol
I just woke up so that's my brain's fault
I just woke up so that's my brain's fault
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Okay so let's quickly go through the second one since it's the most impressive one.
Knocking each other around the Solar System is crazy.
If they can do it while standing on the surface of the Sun, which has an escape velocity of 617.5 km/s (Massively Hypersonic+), that means they can just casually hit harder and faster than that.
They are 80 cm tall, the bigger rabbits can be 50 cm and more than 4.5359237, but let's round that up to 5 kg. (80/50)^3x5 = 20.48 kg.
KE for these guys punching themselves off the Sun would be 3904576000000 J or 933.21606118547 tonnes of TNT or Multi-City Block level. So less than what we have them at now, but that speed is nice.
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Nice! That’s a decent speed feat to add to the collection.
Hmm, yeah you have a point. It was an off the cuff answer from Michel Ancel so it might not be accurate.
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Maybe I'm remembering wrong... I could buy Globox being 2 m in the Origins/Legends games and off-shoots but in Rayman 2 and 3 he's definitely bigger than that.
Now all we need is footage of them actually on the Sun so we can get a gif for the wiki
Now all we need is footage of them actually on the Sun so we can get a gif for the wiki
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I can look into that and post it into a blog next time I get the chance.
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I don't think it's necessary to put the whole calc in a blog, just add the gif and feat to their pages' speed bits since we already have a lot of evidence for MHS+. Escaping Jupiter or Saturn would also be MHS which is what Rayman is at now.
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Fair point, I can do that. Though wouldn’t it only be technically applicable to the Rabbids since it was in a game in the Rabbid continuity?
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I'd say the two being connected to an extent is still fair for Rayman to scale to them.
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Do all Rabbids even scale to each other?
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Probably not all of them. But in this case, it is shown to be ordinary, generic Rabbids that are accomplishing these feats, so I think its fair to scale them to each other.
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MHS can still be supportive evidence if you find them being knocked out of Jupiter or Saturn.
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I already added it to their profiles.
