Ram vs Queen (0-4-0)

[SatellaTheWoE]

She does not have the stamina to keep up.

As for Ram's weaknesses, her typical time limit on her Shackles is no longer a factor thanks to her using Rem's horn via Synesthesia to provide her Oni flesh with the mana it requires to operate, replacing her time-limit with how willing she is to place the burden onto Rem. Ram can shift her shackles freely to reduce or increase Rem's burden and her own power.

try reading next time

 

[Zabazab]

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Be nice.

 

[Kachon123]

In terms of what Ram is capable of, one of her most significant skills is Clairvoyance, a technique that allows her to steal the field of vision of her opponent. By alligning her own vision with theirs, she becomes capable of reading her opponent with greater ease than if she was literally reading their mind. This nullifies advantages such as sneak attacks, playing dead, invisibility, and grants generally phenomenal analytical prediction.

The issue with this is that Kenbunshoku is capable of the exact same thing, yet Queen' stealth mastery while being invisible is potent enough to bypass them. Her Clairvoyance will only work on Queen when he's is not invisible. Otherwise she'd be just as good as Doflamingo during Marineford.

As for how she generally fights, she uses her instinctive, gifted sense for combat rather than any formal school of martial arts, mixing wind magic with limb strikes. At a distance she'll abuse Clairvoyance to snipe with invisible blades of wind magic; even the lowest class of wind magic being capable of beheading people comparable to her; the second-lowest class of wind magic being capable of beheading people far stronger than her; and the highest class of wind magic being able to completely pulverize people comparable to her to the degree that not even a drop of blood remains.

If she decides to fight up close, the battle would end instantly due to Queen's viruses. It wouldn't even be close.

As for at a range, because of the oppressive nature of Queen's fighting style, Ram would be way too busy trying to dodge him than she would be trying to find time to attack. People with far greater analytical and sensory skills than Ram such as Sanji were struggling to keep up, so Ram's wind slices won't do anything significant.

Could you send proof of wind magic somehow being able to oneshot people on her level and stronger than her? If that's the case then that simply just means that they weren't stronger than her to begin with. Again, Queen's endurance and regeneration scales far above someone who could take a organ melting durability negating attack that was backed with 270 exatons of force. Ram's 135 exaton magic isn't oneshotting him or even getting close to doing so.

If the distance is closed, she prefers to engage in a mix of wind blades in mid-range and limb strikes in close range. By coating her body in wind magic, she can rapidly accelerate and decelerate her own attacks, making developing a counter impossible even for the Sin Archbishop of Gluttony, who is capable of using and mixing every school of martial art from east or west– possessing multiferious superhuman techniques impossible of being reconstructed by anyone. This coating of wind magic additionally allows Ram to give even blunt strikes a cutting edge greater than even a treasured sword.

This is not impressive considering how Queen's Flying Pan attack was able to completely overwhelm Sanji and make him unable to counter due to the amount of limbs and weapons attacking at once, the angles they were coming from, and his own precog that he'd use to predict Sanji's movements.

 

[Kachon123]

I maybe jumping the gun here but i really dont see a way for Queen to be able to properly hit Ram, like she can dodgle all of his shit with relative ease and spam her attacks till he collapses from too much damage or smth.

Yeah, no. If Sanji couldn't do it, neither can Ram. I've not seen one precog feat from her that compares to even the standard Kenbun user yet.

Normally I wouldnt think that Anal precog would be enough to dodge but Ram can basically see what he sees. Even the Obs Haki would be under her view making it almost entirely useless

Kenbunshoku Haki is a sixth sense that goes beyond sight and even things within the realm of the mind such as imagination. Ram's Clairvoyance allows her to see the vision of her opponents. Kenbun doesn't work on sight (hell, one of the best Kenbun users is literally a blind man).

Kenbunshoku also grants a statistics amplification, allowing his body and brain to move quicker than before, so even if she is seeing what Queen is seeing during the stat amp, her brain would not be fast enough to keep up at all.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

try reading next time

Don't start

 

[Kachon123]

try reading next time

Try reading Ram's profile next time. Rem is only listed as optional equipment, while SBA only allows standard equipment

Standard Equipment: A wand which was made from her severed Oni horn.

• Optional Equipment: Her comatose twin sister Rem.

Ram's stamina is still under 10 minutes.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Killer Queen FRA

 

[Fezzih_007]

Try reading Ram's profile next time. Rem is only listed as optional equipment, while SBA only allows standard equipment



Ram's stamina is still under 10 minutes.

Nah, i give Rem as a equipament.

Rem is resting on a building

My B for not being clear trought.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Try reading Ram's profile next time. Rem is only listed as optional equipment, while SBA only allows standard equipment



Ram's stamina is still under 10 minutes.

Rem is resting on a building

try reading the OP next time

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

try reading the OP next time

The OP should've specified that Rem was included rather than a vague statement like that, especially since not everyone knows the context.

 

[SlendVeny]

try reading next time

Oh yeah? Where the hell does that statement give her stamina comparable to fighting 5 days in a row against enemies on par with oneself?

 

[Fezzih_007]

try reading the OP next time

You know Satella, even If Ram can share her stamina with Rem, is not like Rem own stamina is infinite. So the question come If Queen can force enough recoil so Rem body can't hold anymore.

 

[Zabazab]

The issue with this is that Kenbunshoku is capable of the exact same thing, yet Queen' stealth mastery while being invisible is potent enough to bypass them. Her Clairvoyance will only work on Queen when he's is not invisible. Otherwise she'd be just as good as Doflamingo during Marineford.

Can you specify why the invisibility would nullify Ram's ability to steal Queen's field of vision?

If she decides to fight up close, the battle would end instantly due to Queen's viruses. It wouldn't even be close.

As for at a range, because of the oppressive nature of Queen's fighting style, Ram would be way too busy trying to dodge him than she would be trying to find time to attack. People with far greater analytical and sensory skills than Ram such as Sanji were struggling to keep up, so Ram's wind slices won't do anything significant.

Could you send proof of wind magic somehow being able to oneshot people on her level and stronger than her? If that's the case then that simply just means that they weren't stronger than her to begin with. Again, Queen's endurance and regeneration scales far above someone who could take a organ melting durability negating attack that was backed with 270 exatons of force. Ram's 135 exaton magic isn't oneshotting him or even getting close to doing so.

The viruses require either contact or airborne gas, yes? The former would be challenging due to Ram's bs dodging and the latter would be ineffective due to her control over wind.

Even if Sanji's precog skills are better than Ram's, I haven't seen anything to suggest his ability to respond is comparable– launching a blade of wind doesn't even require a gesture, dodging while fighting back isn't difficult for someone with such varied effective range.

Here's her beheading a character who is definitely way stronger than her with just the pure sharpness of her magic:

As that someone stood by that window, they directed their hand towards the Blight Dragon as it tore off the thorns within the skies――,

Ram: [――El Fura.]

If an objective could be accomplished with minimal toil, neither flashy magic nor outlandish monstrous strength were necessary.

With precision that could serve as an example for all such things, the Blight Dragon’s final remaining head was severed by a blade of wind possessing unrelenting sharpness. –Arc 8, Chapter 61

This is not impressive considering how Queen's Flying Pan attack was able to completely overwhelm Sanji and make him unable to counter due to the amount of limbs and weapons attacking at once, the angles they were coming from, and his own precog that he'd use to predict Sanji's movements.

This just makes me think Sanji sucks at handling danmaku. Gluttony was able to avoid a hundred spears of ice attacking him from all angles simultaneously without a scratch, and said that whether it's repeated a hundred or a thousand times it will never reach him.

Gazing at that, Ley’s composure, yet, remained unchanged. With no strong feelings for that, she merely commenced the offensive abiding by her frozen fighting spirit. The count of the ice stakes being fired was close to, but no greater than, a hundred.

Submerging the aisle seemingly constructed of stone, the dust of the ice which had impacted the floor, the walls, the ceiling fluttered about, the space frozen white bringing immense damage upon the one who taken that immense hit. However――

Ley: “Sorry, onee-san. We’re tired of seeing that… Is something we won’t say, but we’ve seen it. See, because we are genius after aaall, we don’t think an attack that has already been seen once will hit!”

Swinging the daggers fastened to both his hands, Ley laughed, having outdone the terrific attack of ice.

She inhaled in astonishment, witnessing his talent and skill, and having withstood and outdone it as a matter of fact, as he stood completely unwounded. However, if he had outdone it once, then twice, thrice, even more if that still did not work.

Ley: “You’re thinking you’ll be able to win if you do it a hundred times? It won’t reach even after you do it a thousand times, you know?”

 

[Fezzih_007]

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[Fezzih_007]

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[Fezzih_007]

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[Fezzih_007]

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Too slow.

 

[Fezzih_007]

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I have 5 bump in a row, i gonna start counting the votes, If no one gonna say anything.

 

[Dragonite007]

Queen fra via @Kachon123 reasons

 

[Fezzih_007]

I'm just finished One Piece (That was such a pain), so I'm gonna give my response later

Ok, i can wait.