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Puyo Puyo characters should likely be buffed to Universal, or at least Satan if nobody else.
In Puyo Puyo 20th anniversary, when Ecolo says that with Satan's power he could destroy "everything and anything". And this isn't Ecolo and Satan's power combined, Ecolo specifically says that he was releasing limiters on Satan's power. Satan was also concerned about the release of his own power.
Notably, the characters in the game are able to fight Satan in this state, though it is implied that Satan was somehow resisting this possession.
Other characters might get this combined with scaling to Ecolo likely having nearly enough power to be uni in his fight with Arle, Amity and Ringo.
Satan being Uni or Multi at his full power is also supported by Arle initially believing Satan to be responsible for the merging of worlds in Puyo Puyo Tetris, likely meaning she was confident he'd be capable of doing so. Arle even believed Satan would do this merely out of boredom.
As for the events of the Shin Madou Monogatari, I'm just gonna past what I found on the Japanese wikipedia page on the subject. It's worth noting that this is just Google Translated, the full Wikipedia page in it's original language can be found here if anyone wants to properly translate.
Basically, from what I can tell from this A.I. translated mess, Shin Madou Monogatari and the other novels are a separate continuity from the games.
There are three ways we can go about this.
Even if we do keep it, Ringo and Amity's worlds would be excluded from the feat, making it only Low 2-C.
Also, side note, we should replace the mediocre at best Puyo Puyo Chronicles renders with the better ones from Puyo Puyo Quest and the Puyo Puyo Tetris games, as well as maybe adding some Madou Monogatari renders to the applicable profiles. I already have one ready for Satan.
Honestly, Puyo Puyo as a verse is a mess right now, and this is only the first of many steps in cleaning it up.
In Puyo Puyo 20th anniversary, when Ecolo says that with Satan's power he could destroy "everything and anything". And this isn't Ecolo and Satan's power combined, Ecolo specifically says that he was releasing limiters on Satan's power. Satan was also concerned about the release of his own power.
Notably, the characters in the game are able to fight Satan in this state, though it is implied that Satan was somehow resisting this possession.
Other characters might get this combined with scaling to Ecolo likely having nearly enough power to be uni in his fight with Arle, Amity and Ringo.
Satan being Uni or Multi at his full power is also supported by Arle initially believing Satan to be responsible for the merging of worlds in Puyo Puyo Tetris, likely meaning she was confident he'd be capable of doing so. Arle even believed Satan would do this merely out of boredom.
As for the events of the Shin Madou Monogatari, I'm just gonna past what I found on the Japanese wikipedia page on the subject. It's worth noting that this is just Google Translated, the full Wikipedia page in it's original language can be found here if anyone wants to properly translate.
True Magic Tales setting
Later, in the compilation, there was a movement to reconstruct the world view and setting of the "Demon Story" series so far, to eliminate the contradictions between each work, and to create a unified setting with the same time axis and the same world. In this new worldview, the world in which Puyo Puyo is set is said to be about 1,000 years after the time of The Magic Story, and the characters in each work are different people with the same name and form (the world was destroyed once for a reason, and was later reborn by Satan's hands). In addition, the setting of the characters, which had been different depending on the work until then, was also defined in detail. The director at this time was Kenji Oda, who was in charge of "Demon Story Hachamecha Final Exam" and other works.
Initially, it was planned to adopt a scenario based on this setting as a scenario for the Sega Saturn version of "Demon Story", but due to the bankruptcy of compilation, the original scenario was killed, and a different scenario was adopted in the product version. After that, the original scenario that died during development was developed as a commercial secondary novel "True Magic Story" series, and the setting materials of the characters according to this setting will be included in the fan book "Magic Story Fanbook Illustration & Others". Since then, this setting has hardly been reflected in the main game except for some works such as Puyo Puyo Gaiden: Puyo Wars, and it is only supplemented by chronology included in novels and fan books. For these reasons, this setting is called the True Magic Story setting rather than the title of the novel version. Director Kenji Oda himself wrote, "This is a magic story that I draw only in my head", (partly due to the fact that there were many criticisms of the setting), and the setting of True Magic Story was never the official unified setting of the Demon Story.
Later, in the compilation, there was a movement to reconstruct the world view and setting of the "Demon Story" series so far, to eliminate the contradictions between each work, and to create a unified setting with the same time axis and the same world. In this new worldview, the world in which Puyo Puyo is set is said to be about 1,000 years after the time of The Magic Story, and the characters in each work are different people with the same name and form (the world was destroyed once for a reason, and was later reborn by Satan's hands). In addition, the setting of the characters, which had been different depending on the work until then, was also defined in detail. The director at this time was Kenji Oda, who was in charge of "Demon Story Hachamecha Final Exam" and other works.
Initially, it was planned to adopt a scenario based on this setting as a scenario for the Sega Saturn version of "Demon Story", but due to the bankruptcy of compilation, the original scenario was killed, and a different scenario was adopted in the product version. After that, the original scenario that died during development was developed as a commercial secondary novel "True Magic Story" series, and the setting materials of the characters according to this setting will be included in the fan book "Magic Story Fanbook Illustration & Others". Since then, this setting has hardly been reflected in the main game except for some works such as Puyo Puyo Gaiden: Puyo Wars, and it is only supplemented by chronology included in novels and fan books. For these reasons, this setting is called the True Magic Story setting rather than the title of the novel version. Director Kenji Oda himself wrote, "This is a magic story that I draw only in my head", (partly due to the fact that there were many criticisms of the setting), and the setting of True Magic Story was never the official unified setting of the Demon Story.
Basically, from what I can tell from this A.I. translated mess, Shin Madou Monogatari and the other novels are a separate continuity from the games.
There are three ways we can go about this.
- Make the novel versions of Arle and Satan separate keys
- Make the novel versions of Arle and Satan separate profiles
- Remove mentions of Shin Madou Monogatari altogether until we can find translations of the books
Even if we do keep it, Ringo and Amity's worlds would be excluded from the feat, making it only Low 2-C.
Also, side note, we should replace the mediocre at best Puyo Puyo Chronicles renders with the better ones from Puyo Puyo Quest and the Puyo Puyo Tetris games, as well as maybe adding some Madou Monogatari renders to the applicable profiles. I already have one ready for Satan.
Honestly, Puyo Puyo as a verse is a mess right now, and this is only the first of many steps in cleaning it up.