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Puella Magi Verse God-Tier Upgrades
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5-D seems fine. Totally not agreeing so we can have Ultimate Madoka vs Archie Sonic again.
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Seems fine to me too...
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I agree with the upgrades.
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This really doesn't seem like low 1-c to me
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I don't care about it I wouldn't let my personal feelings affect my decision cause am not "bias"
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Damn this trash internet.
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Low 1-C seems fine to me. AoC I think should remain 2-A as she doesn’t scale.
Taking that statement literally would make Madoka Low 2-C at best. This scene would also suggest that Madoka’s existence shifted beyond the universe, as it is on a higher plane.
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AoC possess a portion of UKG's curse, I believe we can backscaled it because of this.
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This was before Magia Record gave us new evidences. Heck, if Homura Tamura didn't give the "Infinite Universe" statement, Madoka would be 2-C at best.
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We can work with 2-A, Low 1-C with Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen's Curse
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Have you forgotten that PMMM have something called "The World of Witches" and "The World of Wraith"? new evidences should makes each of them as the entirety 5-D space now. AoC was about to destroy one of these 5-D space.
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The world of wraith is 4-D only,the higher plane that transcends it is 5-D
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The "Higher Plane" exists even in the World of Witches. When Madoka ascended to a Goddess, she conceptually wiped out the "higher plane" as well along with the Multiverse since they were as part of the old world where it doesn't fit to her new rule. The World of Wraith is a replace to that and should be about the same as the previous worlds, minus the existence of Witeches.
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Look like you misunderstand it.Madoka transcends both worlds and perceives them as fiction,that why she is 5-D.If the world of wraiths is 5-D then Madoka is even 6-D
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Oh no, Madoka is still 5-D, I assure you that. It's just that now with New Evidences, World of Witch and Wraith are no longer just Multiverse.
What I'm talking about is that Madoka destroying 5-D cosmology and the new 5-D Cosmology was born. We both knew that everything from the previous "world" will get destroyed due to Madoka's new law.
And the one she perceives as fiction was not the "World of Wraith" as now it was actually part of the Law of Cycle. The one she perceives as "fiction" was the Multiverse, not the entirety of 5-D cosmology which what the "World of Wraith" is now.
Basically, "The World of Wraith" and "The World of Witch" are just a name that refers to the new and old 5-D cosmology in PMMM.
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I agree with low 1-C Madoka and those who scale, it's one of the most blatant low 1-C's that I've seen in a while.
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There is no proof the World of Wraths or the World of Witches are 5D. The only thing 5D from this is the Ultimate Madoka for seeing said 4D Worlds of Wraths and Witches as records and all that, and all who scale to her. (Homura's shield having a 4D pocket dimension is not evidence of the two worlds being 5D before you state that. A 4D world can hold 4D pocket dimensions easily)
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The World of Wraith and Witches are just the name that refers to the 5-D cosmology, the old and the new one, both are also become parts of Madoka. Madoka doesn't perceive them as Records as they are literally her "body".
What Madoka perceives as Record was the Multiverse itself, which isn't not what the World of Wraith is....at least not entirely.
What Madoka perceives as Record was the Multiverse itself, which isn't not what the World of Wraith is....at least not entirely.
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Yes and the multiverse here is world of wraiths,this whole thread doesn't mention anything to prove world of wraiths is 5-D
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Again, world of Wraith is referring to 5-D space, not just the Multiverse. I already said it that Madoka only perceives Multiverse as records, not the entire 5-D space.
It's basically like this, with a note that the World of Witch is supposed to be gone conceptually. So both worlds in a way, like are two sides of a coin, with Madoka as the coin.
It doesn't makes Madoka anything above 5-D, it just that there are two version of 5-D space in PMMM. One that exists and one that "doesn't exist".
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I’m not seeing how the World of Witches and the World of Wraiths themselves are supposed to be 5D. Madoka is 5D because she’s on a higher plane above them.
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Again, Both "Worlds" are literally her.
The scan you posted here implied that "Higher Plane" that beyond Low 2-C structure do exist even before Madoka's ascension.
The scans I posted on the very top shows and confirm that.
Madoka whole thing is to changed everything that is within the influence of her Law. Those Higher Plane prior Madoka ascension is part of the World of Witches, Madoka ascended into that level would means she destroys it and replacing it with new one.
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If the worlds are her body how does she transcend them?
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What she transcends is the Multiverse, which she trivialized like a collection of Record/disc.
These "Worlds", are referring to the 5-D space she occupied at. It's basically just a name to refers the old and new 5-D space.
What she transcends is the Multiverse, which she trivialized like a collection of Record/disc.
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I can see Madoka being 5D
But these other worlds don't seem like it unless there is a character who is interacting with modaka in same way (The 5D modaka)
if there is a way to prove the spaces/world as transcending the multiverse. Is there any scans that might be helpful for this?
But these other worlds don't seem like it unless there is a character who is interacting with modaka in same way (The 5D modaka)
if there is a way to prove the spaces/world as transcending the multiverse. Is there any scans that might be helpful for this?
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More like exist within her, but you get the point.
The scans you posted in the OP shows how Madoka perceives the multiverse as basically fiction. The scan I posted states that Madoka’s existence will be on a higher plane. That higher plane exists above the multiverse, so it transcends both the World of Witches and the World of Wraiths. Again, this makes Madoka herself 5D but the World of Wraiths and World of Witches by themselves are only 2-A each.
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Am not great at understanding these things but this seems simple enough, agree, though would like to see what somebodydata has to say
Also this means kyubey has low 1-c sealing and tart has low 1-c bfr
Also this means kyubey has low 1-c sealing and tart has low 1-c bfr
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Agree with Low 1-C meaning I agree with the OP so count me in.
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Again this is reason why World of wraiths is a part of madoka doesn't mean that world is 5-D,there are many tier 1 characters has omnipresence but not everything in their verse upscale to that level
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Yeah, I have no problem with Low 1-C PMMM
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