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This really doesn't seem like low 1-c to me
I don't care about it I wouldn't let my personal feelings affect my decision cause am not "bias"Because you don't want Ultimate Madoka vs Archie Sonic to happen again?
Taking that statement literally would make Madoka Low 2-C at best. This scene would also suggest that Madoka’s existence shifted beyond the universe, as it is on a higher plane.I would lean toward disagreement. Besides the Maou case brought up above, the entire explanation of what Madoka would become in ep12 was that she would be "implanted in this universe" as a concept; which imply that she's still part of it, and not transcendent.
AoC possess a portion of UKG's curse, I believe we can backscaled it because of this.Low 1-C seems fine to me. AoC I think should remain 2-A as she doesn’t scale.
This was before Magia Record gave us new evidences. Heck, if Homura Tamura didn't give the "Infinite Universe" statement, Madoka would be 2-C at best.I would lean toward disagreement. Besides the Maou case brought up above, the entire explanation of what Madoka would become in ep12 was that she would be "implanted in this universe" as a concept; which imply that she's still part of it, and not transcendent.
We can work with 2-A, Low 1-C with Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen's CurseAoC should remain 2-A.Possessing a portion of UKG means its hax is low 1-C,not AP is low 1-C
Have you forgotten that PMMM have something called "The World of Witches" and "The World of Wraith"? new evidences should makes each of them as the entirety 5-D space now. AoC was about to destroy one of these 5-D space.AoC should remain 2-A.Possessing a portion of UKG means its hax is low 1-C,not AP is low 1-C
The world of wraith is 4-D only,the higher plane that transcends it is 5-DHave you forgotten that PMMM have something called "The World of Witches" and "The World of Wraith"? new evidences should makes each of them as the entirety 5-D space now. AoC was about to destroy one of these 5-D space.
The "Higher Plane" exists even in the World of Witches. When Madoka ascended to a Goddess, she conceptually wiped out the "higher plane" as well along with the Multiverse since they were as part of the old world where it doesn't fit to her new rule. The World of Wraith is a replace to that and should be about the same as the previous worlds, minus the existence of Witeches.The world of wraith is 4-D only,the higher plane that transcends it is 5-D
Look like you misunderstand it.Madoka transcends both worlds and perceives them as fiction,that why she is 5-D.If the world of wraiths is 5-D then Madoka is even 6-DThe "Higher Plane" exists even in the World of Witches. When Madoka ascended to a Goddess, she conceptually wiped out the "higher plane" as well along with the Multiverse since they were as part of the old world where it doesn't fit to her new rule. The World of Wraith is a replace to that and should be about the same as the previous worlds, minus the existence of Witeches.
If the world of wraiths is 5-D then Madoka is even 6-D
Oh no, Madoka is still 5-D, I assure you that. It's just that now with New Evidences, World of Witch and Wraith are no longer just Multiverse.Look like you misunderstand it.Madoka transcends both worlds and perceives them as fiction,that why she is 5-D.If the world of wraiths is 5-D then Madoka is even 6-D
Yes and the multiverse here is world of wraiths,this whole thread doesn't mention anything to prove world of wraiths is 5-DWhat Madoka perceives as Record was the Multiverse
Again, world of Wraith is referring to 5-D space, not just the Multiverse. I already said it that Madoka only perceives Multiverse as records, not the entire 5-D space.Yes and the multiverse here is world of wraiths,this whole thread doesn't mention anything to prove world of wraiths is 5-D
Again, Both "Worlds" are literally her.I’m not seeing how the World of Witches and the World of Wraiths themselves are supposed to be 5D. Madoka is 5D because she’s on a higher plane above them.
The scan you posted here implied that "Higher Plane" that beyond Low 2-C structure do exist even before Madoka's ascension.This scene would also suggest that Madoka’s existence shifted beyond the universe, as it is on a higher plane.
If the worlds are her body how does she transcend them?Again, Both "Worlds" are literally her.
The scans on the very top shows the entirety of the 5-D cosmology, with the space that encompassed the "records" which in this case, the Multiverse. The entirety of said space is the World of Wraith itself, not the Multiverse.
Said space has basically become half of Madoka's "body".
These "Worlds", are referring to the 5-D space she occupied at. It's basically just a name to refers the old and new 5-D space.If the worlds are her body how does she transcend them?
More like exist within her, but you get the point.Again, Both "Worlds" are literally her.
The scans you posted in the OP shows how Madoka perceives the multiverse as basically fiction. The scan I posted states that Madoka’s existence will be on a higher plane. That higher plane exists above the multiverse, so it transcends both the World of Witches and the World of Wraiths. Again, this makes Madoka herself 5D but the World of Wraiths and World of Witches by themselves are only 2-A each.The scan you posted here implied that "Higher Plane" that beyond Low 2-C structure do exist even before Madoka's ascension.
The scans I posted on the very top shows and confirm that.
Madoka whole thing is to changed everything that is within the influence of her Law. Those Higher Plane prior Madoka ascension is part of the World of Witches, Madoka ascended into that level would means she destroys it and replacing it with new one.
Again this is reason why World of wraiths is a part of madoka doesn't mean that world is 5-D,there are many tier 1 characters has omnipresence but not everything in their verse upscale to that levelAlso the world of wraiths is a part of madoka and madoka is 5-D doesn't mean the world of wraiths is 5-D too,by that logic then even 3-D reality is also 5-D because everything is a part of madoka since she is omnipresent
uhDisagree
Being able to view timelines like that is basic for Tier 2 beings