Pucci vs Diavolo: Fast Forward vs Skip

[Eficiente]

@Smashor 1. I don't remember him not being overwhelmed by SF and his profile doesn't list the feat, so I'm more than skeptical with that claim. This comes from the guy who proposed and removed Diavolo's Building level+ dura from his profile.

2. This is also both erased Causality and are actions that will happen, as Diavolo can even predict stuff from after his erased time. Pucci being able to move there is nonsense.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Things still do what they were going to do during erased time.

 

[Eficiente]

Exactly, it's messing with cause and consequence while calling itself time manip. Using that as a fallacy anyone can make an argument about how other forms of time manip are comparable.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

It's more Mind Manipulation than anything else.

 

[DMB_1]

>"It's more Mind Manipulation than anything else"

Not this again...

King Crimson's time-erasure has nothing to do with Mind, Memory or Perception Manipulation, it's only related to Time and causality.

 

[Eficiente]

It's more Mind Manipulation than anything else.

It's not at all. And I think you mean Perception Manipulation (same).

 

[Eficiente]

@God Of Procrastination It's not making others think that something weird is or isn't going on, something weird is actually, or isn't, going on. Also ignore the first fight with Bruno.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

It makes people unconscious.

 

[Eficiente]

By messing with cause and consequence, not their minds.

 

[TriforcePower1]

No, it explicitly skips time erasing the events that took place in erased time only leaving the end result. So obviously no one would be able to remember something that didn't happen.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

But, it did happen, he can remove hands, and think during it.

 

[Eficiente]

His own cause and consequences aren't affected, and he may have done that outside of his erased time (just approaching and retreating within it).

 

[CrackerVolley]

Hey, this may be dumb (and/or already been talked about, but I'm busy at the moment and don't want to read everything) but would the time skip speed up the time accereation, hastening the universal reset?

 

[TriforcePower1]

Yeah, it would.

 

[DMB_1]

It technically would, but by an insignificant amount.

10 seconds are nothing compared to the universe's lifespan.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

But the 10 seconds of acceleration never occurred because this time was erased.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Yeah, but the acceleration still continued in time erase. So the acceleration would suddenly be very very slightly higher

 

[HierophantDeluxe]

King Crimson's ability is exactly perception manipulation. It literally says nobody has any recollection of what happens during erased time...?

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Exactly. KC means the stand skips the time for everybody else so it seems like it goes from point A to C when it reality time does actually happen they're just not consciously seeing it. That's how KC can dodge every attack and be in the right place in the right time, because only LC and Diavolo can see in erased time

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Only the results remai, and the results of Pucci accelerating is Pucci getting faster, so it skips the acceleration part and goes straight to him being faster.

 

[HierophantDeluxe]

@TacticalNuke002 that is a wrong misinterpretation. You do everything you would normally do in the absence of time, when the ability is over you just have no memory of doing it.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Also, stands don't work on him during erased time, probably because their users are technically unconscious.

 

[Wardokman69]

i think Pucci take this.

 

[The_Smashor]

Grace has stopped once more.

 

[Eficiente]

Only the results remai, and the results of Pucci accelerating is Pucci getting faster, so it skips the acceleration part and goes straight to him being faster.

Pointing out again that giving some free seconds to Pucci isn't all that notable.

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

IM RIGHT HERE! VOTED Diavolo fra.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

You double posted, but, at least that post makes sense.

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

Nah getting internet our double post.

 

[Drite77]

Pucci FRA

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

@Jim You still need to improve your grammar (I can help, if you want).

 

[The_Smashor]

@God of Procrastination

Nothing works on Diavolo in erased time.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

It's implied that bullets work.

 

[Genericstickman]

So does that mean Hol Horse can beat Diavolo?

 

[TacticalNuke002]

No.

 

[The_Smashor]

Where? Because if that's the case Pucci throws light speed knives at him.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

He bothered to dodge them.

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

@Jim You still need to improve your grammar (I can help, if you want).

really? you want help me?

Im okay.

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Yes, I do.

OK, then.

 

[LordUrien935]

It's implied that bullets work.

Hmm... That doesn't explain Diavolo letting Aerosmith's bullets phase right through him.

 

[Eficiente]

This guy is quite misinformed.