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Primordials Gods in Saint Seiya?

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In the list of the primordial gods in Episode G only it includes to:

Gaia
Uranus
Pontus
Eros
Erebus

Episode G:

In the Manga of Saint Seiya it never indicated that Chronos or Tartarus are primordial gods.

In the Genesis it indicates that the first god is Gaia.

Quote:
No começo dos tempos...
Apenas existia Gaia...

Translate:
In the beginning of time ...
Only existed Gaia...
 
TheMightyRegulator said:
Isn't Chronos time?
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It is the guardian of the portal or world that transcends the space and time. The god of the Time.

In the manga of Saint Seiya never indicated that Chronus is a primordial god.

The titan Cronus is also a god of time and the guardian of the epochs. That does not indicate that is a primordial god.
 
Chronos IS a Primordial God. He was there before there was Gaia or Tartatus. This is established in both the Hypermyth and Next Dimensions.

Also, Tartarus is also classified as a Primordial Deity. Know your mythology, he is analogue to Gaia in age, being there before there was any of Gaia's four children.
 
In the Next Dimension never indicated that Chronos is a primordial god.

The Hypermyth is not canon with SS. The gods were not humans in Saint Seiya. A human can not become a god, as Saori and Sigurd indicated in the last chapters of Assassin.

Tartarus not is classified as a primordial god in the official list of Episode G.

In the universe canon (or manga) of Saint Seiya:

Gaia is the first god.
Everything originates from Gaia.
Gaia is the mother of all gods.
 
Hypermyth has some contradictions, yes, but plenty were removed from the newer, 2003 Hypermyth. Look it up in Saint Seiya Taizen, since you know portuguese.

Next Dimension is also canon. Chronos transcends space-time, embodies all of past, present and future across all timelines and is above all gods like they are above humans. Stop saying that Gaia is the first God when there's evidence otherwise. This discussion is over.
 
The official version of the Hypermyth is the published in Cosmos Special. The Encyclopedia Taizen not include any version of the Hypermyth. The Hypermyth is not canon with Saint Seiya.

In the latest version of the Hypermyth published in Monthly Comic Tokumori Soshu-hen Saint Seiya - Volume 1 (in the 2001).

Nothing is mentioned of Chronus and the gods were humans.

Fuente: http://taizen-saintseiya.com/publicacoes-traducoes/hipermito-versao-renovada-da-tokumori/

In Next Dimension Chronos is described as the god of time. The portal guardian or world that transcends time and space. He never mentioned that is a primordial god.

In the Episode G indicates that Gaia is the first god.
 
You do know Episode G was made before Next Dimension, right?

Also, use your brain for once. Chronos and Tartarus can only be classified as Primordial Gods due to their age, power and how they embody entire concepts.

Also, I know what is the latest version of the Hymermyth. I know most stuff about Saint Seiya.

Tartarus is as old as Gaia. Gaia came to be "At the beginning of time", which is ambiguous. In fact, even Cronus at one point in Ep G looks at all of time simultaneously and it only shows Earth history. And even if Gaia is as old as the universe, which is doubtful as she is the Personification of the Earth, Chronos transcends space-time, so your argument is null.
 
Also, I would appreciate you stopping the rampant editing of Saint Seiya profiles. You seem to remove everything that is not explicitly said, and that is rather sad. You don't need to state that Chronos and Tartarus are primordial Gods. That much is obvious. You don't need to state that Hecate is a Goddess or that Callisto is possibly a Demigoddess. Saint Seiya is a series inspired by mythology, and both are respectively a God and a Demigod in the myths.

For instance, Saintia Sho features the Dryads, who are all children of Eris, generated by the Goddess alone. Many of them even have the names and functions of the mythological children of Eris. Thus, it is reasonable to classify them as deities, even if their ranking is ridiculously low. But that's okay. As power derives from one's personal control of Cosmos, it is perfectly acceptable for very low ranking minor Gods to be weak, or maybe not even completely immortal outside their souls (Remembering Hecate regenerating from having her body atomically destroying and scattered across reality?). Just having Ikhor doesn't automically make you on the level of Olympians or Titans, said power needs to be achieved and controlled. Even Thanatos and Hypnos don't have the 9th Sense, for instance.
 
The Episode G and ND are canon in the universe of the manga of Saint Seiya.

In Saint Seiya.Chronus and Tartarus are not classified as primordial gods. It is unknown how old is Chronus. The official list of primordial gods in Episode G are Gaia, Uranus, Pontus, Eros, Erebus.

I know all the works of SS, I am the administrator of the Saint Seiya Wikia (in Spanish).

It never indicated how old is Tartarus in the manga. In the Episode G indicates that Gaia is the first god. The mother of all the gods. In the beginning of time only existed Gaia. Chronus only inhabits the world that transcends time and space, because it is the guardian of the portal. The time travel is not a rare skill. Alice, Aiolos and Tomoe (in Assassin) can travel back in time and even travel to parallel worlds or universes and the space of the all.

The Titan Cronus is the absolute god of time, his powers can be connected parallel worlds or universes (according Aiolia in Assassin).
 
All Saint Seiya works are canon to an extent.

We don't need to have Chronos and Tartarus classified directly as primordial, it's obvious that they are. Also, for goodness sake, allow yourself to take SOME outside interpretation / information. Saint Seiya loves letting things vague

Chronos transcends time-itself, so that argument is null.

Also, Lost Canvas states that both Kairos and Chronos are Primordial Gods.

This isn't even an argument, can someone please lock this thread? I feel that this is headed nowhere.
 
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