Possible upgrade Outerverse God of War ?

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Yggdrasil

As we know, the yggdrasil transcends all dimensions of the space-time continuums of its branches in a qualitative manner, which would give it a qualitative ontological superiority, i.e. a qualification for the Outerverse? But I think one of the problems is that it's not necessarily an immaterial world, is it?

Does this refer to the fact that the intrinsic case surpasses any material state by being qualitatively superior to any physical and temporal dimension, or that the structure itself need not be material?

It would then be in distinction with all the parts of material reality, not existing with them, thus standing above all physical and spatiotemporal differentiation in Nordic cosmology or whether it should go beyond the material whole we have, including the Kingdom between the Realms, which manifested itself from the branches of Yggdrasil and is a higher-dimensional void that encompasses the parallel dimensions of the Nine Realms.

Void
Isn't a vacuum intrinsically linked to the state of non-existence, i.e. something that is already non-physical? This correlation can be found on my vacuum handling page.

Void Manipulation

Void Manipulation, also known as Nothingness Manipulation is the ability to control and manipulate a void: nothingness or non-existence. Empty space and black holes are not examples of a void as they possess energy and exist in the conventional sense. Manipulating either is Spatial Manipulation...

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A void: nothingness or non-existence

Or wikipedia, which suggests a total absence of all physical matter, and therefore of its physical existence.

Vide (physique) — Wikipédia

fr.wikipedia.org

The Void (philosophy) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They tell us that a 1-A structure transcends lower existences to the point where they disappear into nothingness.

"The Kingdom between Kingdoms, part of Yggdrasil, will wipe out anyone who strays from the path and falls into the void"

Conclusion
We have the Kingdom between Realms manifested by the Yggdrasil, which is qualitatively superior by ontological nature to any material composition (is not physical) and we have the Yggdrasil with the same classifications, but for this one I deduce the superiority of physical compositions over all space-time, the Kingdom between Realms transcends lower existences to the point that these disappear and are erased into nothingness. In short, would it qualify as 1-A?
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(For the Yggdrasil, I'm not really sure it's possible, but for the Void/Royalm between the Realms, I think we can do something)

In agreement: @Robo432343, @ScalingRandomVerse

Neutral:

Disagree:

 

[Robo432343]

outerversal kratos
i agree

 

[ScalingRandomVerse]

AGREE!!

 

[Fwyzzverse]

Thank you for your feedback

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Is this a joke or is it really true? Honestly, i don't really believe it, but I'll see what happens.

 

[CurrySenpai]

Disagree, the video you sent about Yggdrasil shows no proof about it transcending dimensions, only a couple small statements about transcending time and space, this is nowhere near enough for Outerversal.

In terms of the void... a void is nothingness yes, but viewing it AS nothing does not mean you are 1-A, simple as. You'd need to view the lower realms or dimensions as a whole as greatly insuperior, like complete fiction.

So, I disagree, a lot.

 

[Gasper]

No.

Edit: it's always funny to me how people bring real philosophy into verses that have nothing to do with it lol.

 

[Yokoahh5743]

Disagree

 

[GarrixianXD]

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Yggdrasil

As we know, the yggdrasil transcends all dimensions of the space-time continuums of its branches in a qualitative manner, which would give it a qualitative ontological superiority, i.e. a qualification for the Outerverse? But I think one of the problems is that it's not necessarily an immaterial world, is it?

The scan you showed was rather Yggdrasil serving as the foundation of the world tree and all of the dimensions encompassed in there, which was not talking about dimensional axes in any sense. And IIRC, "transcending dimensions" as a premise itself won't guarantee qualitative superiority as more context is needed if the purported qualitative superior being sees everything below them as absolute nothingness. Not to mention in this scan, it was stated "Everything comes back to the tree" which means everything at its end leads back to the Tree nonetheless, straight-up disqualifying for any aspects or chance of qualitative superiority.

It would then be in distinction with all the parts of material reality, not existing with them, thus standing above all physical and spatiotemporal differentiation in Nordic cosmology or whether it should go beyond the material whole we have, including the Kingdom between the Realms, which manifested itself from the branches of Yggdrasil and is a higher-dimensional void that encompasses the parallel dimensions of the Nine Realms.

That so-called "higher-dimensional void" rather acts like a Hyperspace brane cosmology, which stems the Low 1-C rating for God of War.

Void
Isn't a vacuum intrinsically linked to the state of non-existence, i.e. something that is already non-physical? This correlation can be found on my vacuum handling page.

Void Manipulation

Void Manipulation, also known as Nothingness Manipulation is the ability to control and manipulate a void: nothingness or non-existence. Empty space and black holes are not examples of a void as they possess energy and exist in the conventional sense. Manipulating either is Spatial Manipulation...

vsbattles.fandom.com

Or wikipedia, which suggests a total absence of all physical matter, and therefore of its physical existence.

Vide (physique) — Wikipédia

fr.wikipedia.org

The Void (philosophy) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They tell us that a 1-A structure transcends lower existences to the point where they disappear into nothingness.

Simply being a void lacking space and time by itself is absolutely no means of qualitative superiority whatsoever, without any further context. 1-A structures transcend lower existences to the point where they're nothingness, yes, but it means that its superiority is to the point that any lower-level existences are absolute-null in nature compared to them. Also, there's a note:

It is important to note that a non-physical realm being described as somehow "higher" than a physical world is not sufficient reasoning for this.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

As we know, the yggdrasil transcends all dimensions of the space-time continuums of its branches in a qualitative manner, which would give it a qualitative ontological superiority, i.e. a qualification for the Outerverse? But I think one of the problems is that it's not necessarily an immaterial world, is it?

This is just a generic "Transcends space and time" statement. Not enough.

Isn't a vacuum intrinsically linked to the state of non-existence, i.e. something that is already non-physical? This correlation can be found on my vacuum handling page.

A void of nothingness is often a good exemplar of something that can be 1-A with sufficient context, but one in-and-of-itself is not enough, no. And even then it has to be a rather specific definition of "Void" and not just "A huge space with nothing in it."

All-in-all: No.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Let's not forget the obvious problem of how numerous characters can affect Yggdrasil or travel into the RBR without any real explanation. That'd also go against 1-A.

 

[Gasper]

Let's not forget the obvious problem of how numerous characters can affect Yggdrasil or travel into the RBR without any real explanation. That'd also go against 1-A.

"Bu-but Kratos is outerversal, that's why he can effect yggdrasil"

 

[Robo432343]

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Let's not forget the obvious problem of how numerous characters can affect Yggdrasil or travel into the RBR without any real explanation. That'd also go against 1-A.

This is due to the 1-A inner essence that all gods have I think.

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

This is due to the 1-A inner essence that all gods have I think.

Would that even apply to beings like valkyries or Nidhogg, though?
Also this is the first I'm hearing of any 1-A "inner essence" and that's mildly concerning tbh

 

[Ultima_Reality]

Also this is the first I'm hearing of any 1-A "inner essence"

Yeah, because I just made it up.

 

[CurrySenpai]

Yeah, because I just made it up.

 

[Robo432343]

 

[CurrySenpai]

I don't get the point you're trying to prove, but is this even IN a GoW game? If not, then can't be used.

 

[Pepsimanslover_69]

That's a fake scan

 

[Gasper]

This is fake. Debunked numerous times.

 

[GarrixianXD]

Since everyone is just here derailing like damn crazy and this topic will be rejected nonetheless, here's a song I'd like to share:

 

[Robo432343]

This is fake. Debunked numerous times.

i know...

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

This one isn't fake, though.

 

[Fwyzzverse]

Well I guess God of war won't be Outerversal for now, thanks humans and admins you can close this thanks

 

[Gasper]

This one isn't fake, though.

Please make it stop

 

[CurrySenpai]

Well I guess God of war won't be Outerversal for now, thanks humans and admins you can close this thanks

No prob, have a good day