Possible High 1-C MCU Upgrade

[PancakeExterminator]

The official art book of Doctor strange (a book that talk about the visual effects) says the weapons Zealots use are made by shattering space/time that cut/warp space. Ie High 3-A attack potency. Upgrade to stranges magic shield too.

MCU Dormammu is 11 dimensional. Or "many many more than 4" dimensional according to the book. Iirc the quotes are from feige and the visual team so the book is legit.

 

[FanofRPGs]

Show me the scan

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Fan is right. This is a pretty massive upgrade and solid evidence is needed.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

"Shattering" space-time on a small scale is unquantifiable hax, not Attack Potency

 

[Schnee_One]

Even then, this would be an utterly insane outlier.

 

[Kaltias]

Cutting space-time =/= High 3-A, it's hax unless the scale is really massive ("sizable portion of the continuum" kind of massive)

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

It's a combination of spatial manipulation and temporal manipulation, not an AP feat

 

[Schnee_One]

Do you have a scan or proof of this anyway?

 

[AKM sama]

I agree with the rest. Shattering space time is unquantifiable in a general sense. And it will probably be best if we can see the scans as they are.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

In which part of the book is the "many many more than 4 dimensional" statement?

 

[Schnee_One]

If you can't give scans, at least mention the page number

 

[PancakeExterminator]

Its saved in my computer. I cant give scans today. Will give them tomorrow

 

[Schnee_One]

This is fair.

 

[Kepekley23]

There is a vague statement in the artbook that talks about "imagine the dimension you and I live in, then a multitude of other dimensions" with a picture of Dormmamu's universe in the back. I'm, like, 55% sure he is talking about that. I have a scan of it.

 

[Schnee_One]

Go ahead and post if you ca

 

[PancakeExterminator]

Is it common to just come here and lie about a character to get an upgrade ? Lol I will give the scans but is it necessary

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

You would be surprised.

 

[Schnee_One]

Sometimes.

May I ask if that was what you tried doing?

 

[Kepekley23]

Go ahead and post if you ca

https://i.imgur.com/iRlx68K.png

A bit fuzzy, but legible.

 

[PancakeExterminator]

There is a vague statement in the artbook that talks about "imagine the dimension you and I live in, then a multitude of other dimensions" with a picture of Dormmamu's universe in the back. I'm, like, 55% sure he is talking about that. I have a scan of it.

Nope its not that

 

[PancakeExterminator]

Sometimes.
May I ask if that was what you tried doing?

Why would anyone do that ? Nobody can gain anything from doing something like that.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Which page are you refering to? Maybe someone can find a scan if we know what we're looking for.

 

[Kepekley23]

I know what he is talking about when he claims the Zealots can warp time.

It's this scan.

 

[PancakeExterminator]

I know what he is talking about when he claims the Zealots can warp time.
It's this scan.

I didnt say time. I said space/time. I cant read what it says there but it wasn't that page iirc. I dont quite remember.

 

[Hellbeast1]

Am i the only one to think Keplekely's evidence was legible? I mean i could read it which helps. As for the upgrade i disagree, this is a massive outlier if true and likely hyperbole in general.

 

[Kepekley23]

Lol. I found the scan where they say Dormammu is an 11-dimensional being.

They actually said that.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

High 1-C MCU confirmed?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That says they originally planned on him being 11-D. Not that he actually is.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Seems like it was just a planned idea, and Dorammu is not that in the actual movie.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Well, that sux =/

 

[Dark649]

Seems like it was just a planned idea, and Dorammu is not that in the actual movie.

Ever is right.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

So, the Zealots can shatter Space/Time and wave that around as weapons.

We know that they can bypass physical matter as they stabbed Strange and it didn't "Cut" him or his clothes, only rhe intended Target. It is hax, I'd say it's similar to Bleach's W Sternritter in a sense.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

You can't use the original script that wasn't ever published as evidence.

 

[Schnee_One]

Aw man......

Oh well.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

otherwise SCP foundation is high 1-B

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Reminds me of Gozer, has a Tier 1 statement in the original script, just to have it being removed from the actual movie.

 

[PancakeExterminator]

Seems like it was just a planned idea, and Dorammu is not that in the actual movie.

Ever is right.

Nope. He was planned to be 11 dimensional but he has 'many more than 4 dimensions' still. Thats still at least 1C they even talk about how they visualized higher dimensions in 3d

 

[Kepekley23]

@Pancake

That's not what Ryan said at all.

"When we originally talked about Dormammu, we talked about him possibly being an eleven-dimensional being. So instead of existing in four dimensions, like we do, he exists in many, many more"

He is simply explaining what being "eleven-dimensional" means to a layman.

Furthermore, they were trying to figure out how Dormammu's higher-dimensionality would tie in with the zealots's astral form, but ended up scrapping the idea of the Zealots being higher-dimensional at all, so they probably scrapped Dormammu being 11-D, too:

"We tried to think how that translates into a visual tie-in wit the zealots. One idea was maybe they don't necessarily hold a three-dimensional form. This led us to places in movement where their faces could bend or twist, or there would be a visual paradox that looked like a face--but when you see it from a different angle, it would turn into something radically different."

"We thought about their astral forms being different than their physical forms, but ultimately realized that would be too complicated," Scott Derrickson said. 'We were already dealing with such complex realities and dimensions to give those characters different astral bodies in an alternate dimension was probably going to be confusing. So we decided to keep whatever their normal look was in the real world. Much like Strange, the physical and astral form would be the same."

 

[Schnee_One]

RIP

 

[Kepekley23]

Also, Dormammu was affected by time-stop, despite the fact that he would have immeasurable speed if he was 11-D.