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Bring up any page we need to clean up and lets discuss how to do it properly.
here's the last thread
i'mma need help
here's the last thread
i'mma need help
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I'm not going to be able to help actively, but I can report some pages I think have problems, obviously pointing out at said issues.
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thank you very much. Could you also look at the staff thread i made?
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Kanto - Hax (I'll do the big three first)
^ It says it's previous form is "Charmander", wtf?
MUUUCH better.
AP: First forms should be 8-A, higher with amps
Final Forms should be High 7-A, 6-C with amps as any amp in AP will throw them to the next tier.
Speed: Should be FTL, higher with amps.
I'll get around to Venusaur soon enough. We'll probably need more people to handle each Gen, I'll be focusing on Gen 1 first.
EDIT: Added Blastoise
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- Blastoise (This profile is actually much better)
^ It says it's previous form is "Charmander", wtf?
MUUUCH better.
AP: First forms should be 8-A, higher with amps
Final Forms should be High 7-A, 6-C with amps as any amp in AP will throw them to the next tier.
Speed: Should be FTL, higher with amps.
I'll get around to Venusaur soon enough. We'll probably need more people to handle each Gen, I'll be focusing on Gen 1 first.
EDIT: Added Blastoise
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The first widespread problems are that some Pokémon are missing images for some of their evolutionary stages, some pages still have pictures of shiny forms at the top (which I remember it was decided to remove), and lastly there's a huge inconsistency when it comes to move lists and related powers.
Since the canon affair hasn't been resolved, nor will ever be resolved, it must be decided if Mystery Dungeon stuff (IQ skills and else) and other stuff from side games such as Conquest is allowed or not, and then either give it to every Pokémon or take it away entirely.
Some feats that have been determined unusable, such as Defog and Magneton raising the temperature, should be removed from profiles and the verse page.
Many, many Pokèmon and trainers have inconsistent ratings because several revisions weren't carried out in their entirety. For this reason you still see some mid stages being 7-B and stuff like that.
Cramorant, Indeedee and some other newly msde Gen 8 mons have weird powers and resistances revolving around things such as Time Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, Transmutation, Thread Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation and other things that come from the Pokémon Physiology draft page, which has never been officially accepted.
Since the canon affair hasn't been resolved, nor will ever be resolved, it must be decided if Mystery Dungeon stuff (IQ skills and else) and other stuff from side games such as Conquest is allowed or not, and then either give it to every Pokémon or take it away entirely.
Some feats that have been determined unusable, such as Defog and Magneton raising the temperature, should be removed from profiles and the verse page.
Many, many Pokèmon and trainers have inconsistent ratings because several revisions weren't carried out in their entirety. For this reason you still see some mid stages being 7-B and stuff like that.
Cramorant, Indeedee and some other newly msde Gen 8 mons have weird powers and resistances revolving around things such as Time Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, Transmutation, Thread Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation and other things that come from the Pokémon Physiology draft page, which has never been officially accepted.
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Huh, what's the reason for that?
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It should be specified it refers to that old revision, instead of throwing powers and abilities around like that, since they aren't explained whatsoever.
Also, some of these are listed as Resistances, for some reason.
And resisting stuff like String Shot and Ominous Wind due to sheer type shouldn't grant resistance to all kinds of Thread Manip (which is already a weird thing to resist in the first place) and Air Manip (since it isn't even a flying move)
Also, some of these are listed as Resistances, for some reason.
And resisting stuff like String Shot and Ominous Wind due to sheer type shouldn't grant resistance to all kinds of Thread Manip (which is already a weird thing to resist in the first place) and Air Manip (since it isn't even a flying move)
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Idk man it kinda died. Maybe we should try to revive it?
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It was because all Pokémon have consistently shown the ability to interact and repel space-time distortions or smth.
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Yeah there were like 30 examples of that
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Magnemite's speed section needs fixes. Its keys with MHS+ only scale to other Magnemites. The page needs better explanation and/or calc for the feat that gives Magnemite MHS+ rating.
Same thing applies to Pikachu, so I presume this might affect other Electric types as well?
Same thing applies to Pikachu, so I presume this might affect other Electric types as well?
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I'm not sure, at most we could scale upper forms to lower ones, but I disagree with doing the same across the same evolutionary stages, as each Pokémon has their own peculiarities which make them different from mons of the same type.
I already disagree with scaling every third mon's physical strength to the same feat from Charizard/Heracross, but that's another can of worms.
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It's more related to lifting strength rather than AP, because one thing is Vileplume fighting Charizard, another is saying they can both bench press the same amount without any evidence, only the fact they can hurt each other.
This is especially true since we already make distinctions for mons like Machamp, who are considered on a different league of physical strength, and scaling to it is allowed only for the very few mons who can canonically wrestle with it, like Grimmsnarl.
This is especially true since we already make distinctions for mons like Machamp, who are considered on a different league of physical strength, and scaling to it is allowed only for the very few mons who can canonically wrestle with it, like Grimmsnarl.
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We did this in the BIG POKEMON UPGRADES thread. Machamp and Grimmsnarl scale to Machamp's class T feat while the rest scale above Happiny above class M.
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Right, tho isn't Brock's Happiny considered a special member of its kind?
Like, not the average Happiny.
We have anime Pikachu, anime Bewear and possibly other special mons who have their own profile and their own stats because they are considered different enough from all the other representants of their species.
Is Brock's happiny portrayed as a special one, or not? How does it perform in battle, is it like, especially strong? (Which admittedly means little in the anime, since the differences between stages aren't as relevant as in the games).
Like, not the average Happiny.
We have anime Pikachu, anime Bewear and possibly other special mons who have their own profile and their own stats because they are considered different enough from all the other representants of their species.
Is Brock's happiny portrayed as a special one, or not? How does it perform in battle, is it like, especially strong? (Which admittedly means little in the anime, since the differences between stages aren't as relevant as in the games).
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It was strong but we scale it only to top tiers. Metagross casually shook it off with not much effort and it hasn't been shown to be comparable to fully evolved pokemon, only to normal/1st stages
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Where did he do that?
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Anyways, here are some notable feats and hax that we need to discuss
Luvdisc can eliminate love from the world, if Team Rocket were to reverse its power. Planetary empathic manipulation, however I think this might only apply to Caserin the Luvdisc
Luvdisc can eliminate love from the world, if Team Rocket were to reverse its power. Planetary empathic manipulation, however I think this might only apply to Caserin the Luvdisc
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Telekinesis
Espeon disperses a wave of water
Amelia's Espeon uses Attract on at least 10 Rhyhorn and can send these hearts to several people, even affecting Chespin
Regeneration Negation
Sakura's Espeon can KO Corsola with Psybeam beyond its power to Recover, and Corsola can use Recover from being KO'd
Espeon disperses a wave of water
Amelia's Espeon uses Attract on at least 10 Rhyhorn and can send these hearts to several people, even affecting Chespin
Regeneration Negation
Sakura's Espeon can KO Corsola with Psybeam beyond its power to Recover, and Corsola can use Recover from being KO'd
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Pokemon: Two Anime Calcs
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Calc is wrong, storm clouds tend to be 1-2km thick
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Doesn't mean that the LS wouldn't be higher than the one it currently has
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Also, Scolipede can vaporise part of a rock instantly with Toxic. Very good corrosion and acid manipulation. Ash's Leavanny can survive Toxic from Roxie's Scolipede. And so did Ash's Pignite. Back when Iris' Excadrill was still very upset with Scolipede and still not even able to one shot this wild Scolipede, it was capable of deflecting this Toxic without getting corroded. So fully evolved steel types downscale from this level of corrosion resistance
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It would be, it literally uses 12-14km as thickness. Not distance from ground. And tell me what you think of the hax potency I just mentioned
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Alakazam's LS is class 25, if i remake the calc properly then it will be way higher as even a 1x1km cube of cloud will weigh 1003000000kg or 1003000 tons, Class G
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Rewatch the episode, record the feat with OBS and post it on gfycat.com
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What do you guys think of making a CRT where we discuss hax potency and new hax for pokemon based on the anime? I have a lot. Or maybe in General Discussions?
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I've rewatched the episode and it is a legitimate feat preformed with psychic, i'll try to record it or sth
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The calc uses this assumption for no reason
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useless.
Hax have been redone and it is now all based on bypassing resistances rather than amount of characters controlled
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that is not an assumption that is a fact. If you are 1.8m tall and you see a cloud stretching towards the horizon then the cloud is 4.8km away as the distance to horizon is 4.8km away,
use this http://www.ringbell.co.uk/info/hdist.htm
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Not true. Its like that if you have that AOE but can't control that AOE to a small area. Espeon can, because it can shoot the attract hearts all at one person, so it stacks the potency of each Attract Heart
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look man that ain't how it works anymore. The potency is decided by resistance bypassing. I don't like it either but it is what was decided in a massive staff thread so if you've issues with that then direct it to them. Stacking simply doesn't work no more
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I read the thread, and I can assure you you're wrong
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alright then make a thread to upgrade the hax. I won't help you, you can do it by yourself and if it gets accepted, great. If you get instantly refuted and your thread gets closed, then it is how it is.
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Ok then
What about the others? Like corrosion
What about the others? Like corrosion
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