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Pokemon 6D Cosmology And other Upgrades
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Yes and I don't know why he's bringing up the meteor
Sniper670
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It's just a normal meteor.
The problem with the meteor is that with the plates absorbed inside Arceus, which are parts of him, he's invincible.
But then the meteorite threatened the planet and he decided to remove the plates from his body, limiting his power and rather using it to form a shield. CIS
And then what happened? The shockwave from the meteorite knocked the plates out of his limited control
If Arceus loses all his plates = Dead Arceus. And so he nearly died.
The end
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PrinceofPein
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I am confused.
Which is which, you cannot use the same piece of evidence for two different things if they are connected.
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It's not the same evidence?
Arceus' realm where it summons the protagonist and have you fight It's avatar and all that, is beyond space (parallel universes and directions) and time, as well the Distortion World that is the mirror of the multiverse and lacks the concepts of time and space, and is the dwelling place of it's avatar which transcends everything. This gets Low 1-C from being beyond the countably infinite multiverse.
Then we have true Arceus (the heart) created the world from it's perception before the creation of it's avatar and it's realm and it's only through the perception it bestows that the world's existence has any meaning, which is akin the a reality-fiction relationship over everything in the Pokéverse, including it's realm and avatars.
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This proposal makes sense.
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Okay, what I thought previously is that, arceus avatars was made 5-D for scaling to the realms, now they are being upgraded to 6-D for transcending their justification which is the realm to begin with.
All these are not in the same contexts from what I can see, the direction part just says space encompasses all direction, which is true for any space.
And one has to do with teleportation
And the other says "Located beyond time and space"
and one has creator of parallel dimensions
None of this means transcendence
a space that lacks space and time literal defintion will be a void
That is not transcendence once again
it goes with "located outside space and time"
Well this is solid, as long as the transcendence is qualitative
If i am to follow this literally, there is no mention of arceus realm, just that he is the origin of everything.
Anyway can you answer the question
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It does with the right context
1. Arceus is the God who transcends everything
2. His realm transcends space and time more context here.
3. Giratina's realm is located outside the regular multiverse. It's also beyond, and conceptually devoid of space and time. but the attachment of a sort of transcendence has never been applied to it in any way shape or form in any media whatsoever. Reading the Japanese version makes it explicit that it transcends, not in the context of Giratina as that's just outside, but is outright superior. Executor_N0 translations also mentions that it implies a superiority and not just outside (Giratina). Logical for y'know, being the god who transcends everything, together
4. Giratina couldn't reach it, and he seriously wanted to fight Arceus. What he did, was to force him to come to the multiverse by causing a space time rift that caused innumerable dimensions to overlap. Of course he can't beat God, so Arceus chosen one beat his ass
He's not saying Giratina's realm transcends anything, but Giratina's realm is located outside space and time. And Arceus realm would in this context be outright superior and not just outside like Giratina
It does. And goes with his own realm which was inaccessible to someone outside and conceptually devoid of space and time. He didn't even attempt to reach it, he baited him to come to the multiverse
That's the Heart and not avatar I believe
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I agree with this.
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The context of this is that space which Palkia governs consists of both parallel universes (of which their are a countable infinite number of) and directions, and the Arceus' realm is beyond them. Different to how the Distortion World is a mirror of and lacks space and time, with Arceus' realm being beyond it and Giratina as well.
Arceus realm is part of the creation which true Arceus percieved into existence, and Arceus' avatar, which you only canonically encouter in that realm, came after the heart created everything, from the egg which dwelled in the chaos that predated the world.
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I don't know
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So avatar is just baseline 5D?
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Why would he be above baseline?
Sure, this means there are millions of 5D realms for every game being its own isolated but still connected thing. But there really isn't any Arceus that scales above all other avatars. Unless OS wants to but thats a leap
Unless you want to count 1000 arms Arceus, which we have not seen yet
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Realised this isn't my thread, so three staff members have agreed.
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Well three staff members have agreed to it.
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We can wait a while to see if Pain has anything more to add. No hurry here.
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I read the beginning of the thread and arceus realm is already accepted to be 5-D, Trascending that would be 6-D.
but to clarify again I know nothing about pokemon so the upgrade is fine based on what I have seen here.
but the justification should include scans that hints transcendence not just predating
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@Sniper670
This seems to have been accepted now.
This seems to have been accepted now.
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Alright quick question. Will this make the heart have 6D or are we keeping that only 5D/4D hax without feat
Originally the heart has 5D physiology for NEP and BDE. Will it scale to 6D now or remain 5D for being only NEP and BDE even towards Arceus Realm and his Avatars.
If a new thread is needed i will simply ask Sniper directly since he do be scaling
Originally the heart has 5D physiology for NEP and BDE. Will it scale to 6D now or remain 5D for being only NEP and BDE even towards Arceus Realm and his Avatars.
If a new thread is needed i will simply ask Sniper directly since he do be scaling
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Just minor correction. Thats not in Arceus’s realm. Thats the sky pillar.
edit: not sky pillar. Hall of origin. My bad.
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When I do that it says image cannot be loaded or posted from passed links
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