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BASE COSMOLOGY (4D)
Realm Of God (5D)
Arceus Realm was already accepted as higher dimensional here, which was the premise for low 1C previously
Beyond God (6D)
First thing's first, The Heart predates the power system, as well as the plates Arceus uses. So his powers will be of a very different nature than his Avatar's, but still, his Avatar's powers and all existence will be a part of it, just on a lower level
This was something Executor_N0 mentioned in the low 1C upgrade thread, but it flew over people's head. Long explanation here. Short Explanation :
CONCLUSION
1. Arceus 5D realm only applies to the game avatar of the OS, since it is the only one who has that statement attached to it,as well as the nature of the realm being different to anime. So Anime Arceus feats within his dimension does not make it 5D.
2. This will make Arceus Plates maximum capability 5D, as it can easily negate all attacks as well as anything that stems from his plates, within the context of the cosmology. His plates Power Null + Invulnerability will scale to his creation/destruction of of everything in the cosmology including his realm
Before anyone butts in and bring the Meteorite, I've paid close and hard attention to the anime and the pis has not been made clearer. Note that the Plates itself does not have anti feats against it. As Sheenas boyfriend said, yes, the plates can negate all possible attacks, but what happened is that the shock from the meteorite knocked the plates out of the control of Arceus. Think of the Infinity Gauntlet. Yes, it's extremely powerful and can do many things, but it can be knocked out of the user's control and make them vulnerable, that's what happens in Arceus case. But in Arceus case, he can safeguard it from being removed if he absorbed it. Thats besides the fact that its impossible to break them
Arceus by default has the plates absorbed in it, which does not dimininish his ability to negate attacks at all, nor use his powers.
Canonically, it's impossible for anything to remove plates, even by literal hax that can negate such things. It's impossible.
Arceus brings the plates out of him to tank a meteorite because it has to be knocked out of his control in a way that it will make sense for the plot to be driven forward. Character Induced Stupidity
3. His range will be changed to Low 1-C
4. We don't know to what degree Arceus scales to 5D, so his AP will be Creation and Destruction, while his Durability will be placed under his plates ability to negate attacks, so it won't scale fully to him. I'm doing it so because Arceus without his plates isn't as God tier as he is with them. As the director mentioned, Arceus with the plates is Omnipotent and Omniscient, not so much without it. His hax would not scale
Realm Of God (5D)
Arceus Realm was already accepted as higher dimensional here, which was the premise for low 1C previously
Beyond God (6D)
First thing's first, The Heart predates the power system, as well as the plates Arceus uses. So his powers will be of a very different nature than his Avatar's, but still, his Avatar's powers and all existence will be a part of it, just on a lower level
This was something Executor_N0 mentioned in the low 1C upgrade thread, but it flew over people's head. Long explanation here. Short Explanation :
CONCLUSION
1. Arceus 5D realm only applies to the game avatar of the OS, since it is the only one who has that statement attached to it,as well as the nature of the realm being different to anime. So Anime Arceus feats within his dimension does not make it 5D.
2. This will make Arceus Plates maximum capability 5D, as it can easily negate all attacks as well as anything that stems from his plates, within the context of the cosmology. His plates Power Null + Invulnerability will scale to his creation/destruction of of everything in the cosmology including his realm
Before anyone butts in and bring the Meteorite, I've paid close and hard attention to the anime and the pis has not been made clearer. Note that the Plates itself does not have anti feats against it. As Sheenas boyfriend said, yes, the plates can negate all possible attacks, but what happened is that the shock from the meteorite knocked the plates out of the control of Arceus. Think of the Infinity Gauntlet. Yes, it's extremely powerful and can do many things, but it can be knocked out of the user's control and make them vulnerable, that's what happens in Arceus case. But in Arceus case, he can safeguard it from being removed if he absorbed it. Thats besides the fact that its impossible to break them
Arceus by default has the plates absorbed in it, which does not dimininish his ability to negate attacks at all, nor use his powers.
Canonically, it's impossible for anything to remove plates, even by literal hax that can negate such things. It's impossible.
So how does the director circumvent it? Simple
Arceus brings the plates out of him to tank a meteorite because it has to be knocked out of his control in a way that it will make sense for the plot to be driven forward. Character Induced Stupidity
3. His range will be changed to Low 1-C
4. We don't know to what degree Arceus scales to 5D, so his AP will be Creation and Destruction, while his Durability will be placed under his plates ability to negate attacks, so it won't scale fully to him. I'm doing it so because Arceus without his plates isn't as God tier as he is with them. As the director mentioned, Arceus with the plates is Omnipotent and Omniscient, not so much without it. His hax would not scale
