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Po fights the Ultimate Life Form (Grace)
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I understand Hamon has a spiritual part to it but I doubt that'd allow Kars to straight-up kill spirits, not that it matters much since he'd be in a different world. I also doubt he'd lead with Hamon anyway.
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No, but it'd help incap, or harm. And maybe kill, don't know, we only see it twice, and in specific circumstances.
I'd assume it works on spirits kinda like living beings, just without the extra biological exclusive bits.
Kars would lead with whatever he think would work best.
He says it himself, how he wins doesn't matter. All that matters is that he does, in the quickest, most efficient and safest way possible. And he does this consistently, only failing to do this against a Joseph he had a vendetta against and clarified why (prior to this though, he actually did try a quick easy kill against him).
Also fyi, if Po revives, Kars has like ten million ways to incap. From mind control, poisons, to simply turning him into an undying loyal servant.
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"Mind control"
Resisted.
Resisted.
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Different methods exist my dude. Just because someone can resist a psychopathic mind control (Mewtwo for example) doesn't mean they can resist complete biological rewiring of the brain for example (mushroom lads for example). Among other types and variants. Po's res doesn't help against Kars if it's just possession.
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Po resisted possession by Master Ding, and the influence of the Moon Weevils which go inside the body for their mind control.
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Possession literally doesn't help here.
And clarify the latter.
Though, 10 million ways. Either way.
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In one of the last episodes they introduce these moon weevils which crawl in your ear and control your brain, not really seen how it's done though. Po resisted their influence for some time.
Regardless, I'm willing to accept that Po can't resist Kars, fine.
Regardless, I'm willing to accept that Po can't resist Kars, fine.
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Some time? Clarify.
I'm willing to accept he actually can if the reason why Po does applies.
Though Kars has 3 different methods to mind control. And he'd probably do something else anyway.
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Normally the Weevils have like a weakness where if you put tea on your face, smack your face with a copper wok, and then sing a song, the Weevils are weakened enough that they're forced out.
Po kind of resisted their mind control for like 5-10 seconds before he started doing that.
It's not great mind res so I think Kars can work around it.
Po kind of resisted their mind control for like 5-10 seconds before he started doing that.
It's not great mind res so I think Kars can work around it.
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Oh it was only a few seconds? Ok yeah nvm.
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Po also doesn't really tend to use physical attacks in this form, mainly just chi blasts.
I'm wondering if Kars can contain all of Po's chi if Po tries to destroy him like with Kai.
I'm wondering if Kars can contain all of Po's chi if Po tries to destroy him like with Kai.
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How far can Po destroy Kars down to in a instant? He can regenerate from beyond 1cm chunks so if he pulls a Dio and like, cuts off the part hit and then just avoids the rest, which he should be easily able to do, he should be able to work around that.
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When Po destroyed Kai there was literally nothing left.
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Yes but long did it take and was it his whole body in a instant?
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Yeah it's like, one moment Kai was fully whole, the next he just exploded and was reduced to nothing.
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Do you have the scene?
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(Start at the beginning)
They're connected, first one leads into the second.
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Yeah, that's why I was curious what Kars' absorption limits were.
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Yeah that's kinda a huge red flag and kinda looks quite easy to dodge.
And given how long it took...
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Cellular.
His cells emit a acid that assimilates the target down to their cells, breaking even cells apart.
He absorbs the opponent down to their cells. Though Ult Kars has that but unquantifiably better.
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I meant, how much energy can he store.
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His Hamon was stated to be as hot as the sun so quite a bit I guess
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Po's energy was far surpassing the energy of every living Kung Fu Master+500 years of energy from the Spirit Realm. Kind of weird to compare, but going off AP it seems like Kars can take in enough energy that he can live Po's chi attack. If this was retroactively applying Paws of Destiny stuff it might be different, but as it stands ig Kars FRA if he starts with incap.
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Does it matter how much he can take though? He can just avoid it?
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Speed equalized idk if he can really avoid it forever.
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He won't need to avoid it forever the moment he touches po it's over
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Dude can fight for a year without food.
He doesn't sleep or even rest.
And doesn't tire.
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Kars' 400 IQ, tens of thousands of years of experience, the in character trait of picking the safest, risk free and most effective way to defeat his foe all factor in.
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What is his first move then.
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Prep. He always attacked after knowing what his opponent could do, or attacking in secret, killing his for before they could retaliate.
The only time this wasn't the case was with Joseph. Who was already weak, and managed to corner Kars. And Kars did that on purpose for a trap to kill Joseph efficiently.
In Ultimate he just does, his whole time as Ultimate was "tests out his new powers. Chases Joseph. Tries to kill him with hamon. The big cheese".
If we're assuming Kars is neutral and already knows what he can do, I'd assume it wouldn't be any different from how he normally acts, that being, whatever works, works.
Absorption is usually turned on against nonhamon though.
Also tends to make minions, albeit always off screen. But he likes doing that, mostly to criminals or those he's keen on.
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Basically absorption
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In this specific version for Po it's gonna be less likely for absorption to kick in, what with Po spamming long range chi attacks.
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About that, Kars can shoot pieces of his flesh that shapeshift into super powered animals, he can control them from afar, manipulate their cellular structure and like, I'm just throwing it out there but if he REALLY wanted to. He could make them emit acid as they're able to shift their cells, and said cells are Kars to begin with.
Also that just means Kars does something else, he has options here, honestly, pretty sure Kars has him beat on range, not because Po doesn't have lethal ranged moves, but because Kars can fire dozens of things at once, and Po is gonna be hard pressed to chi based on how long it took while also avoiding Kars attacks. Which Kars can do while mobile and airborne.
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The acid thing would likely just make Po go to the Spirit Realm, assuming the fight is in the mortal realm. And from there Po is basically untouchable. So I would think the animals need to use mind control.
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Or poison, or crippling, or turning him into a zombie.
There's a LOT he can do here.
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