(GRACE) Sans fights the Ultimate Life Form

[ShionAH]

and his body survived the destruction of his soul

If kars has that its a stomp

 

[Chariot190]

How can he dodge the first attack from below? If he can't dodge it that will surely kill him.

Oh, enhanced senses btw, kars senses exceed and moreover outperform that of any creature in the world, from normal animals and biological beings, to vampires like DIO, or even the verse's humans.

You talk about the 20 m emerald splash?

I could be yeah.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Rememeber, Kars >>> DIO, who can, in fact, deal with danmaku and his body survived the destruction of his soul

Oh yeah, actually, I got a question, would it be a stretch to say Kars >>> almost everyone in terms of skill and adaptability considering his Intelligence and the fact that he's the Ultimate Lifeform?

 

[ShionAH]

Oh, enhanced senses btw, kars senses exceed and moreover outperform that of any creature in the world, from normal animals and biological beings, to vampires like DIO, or even the verse's humans.

Do they sense danger? Hmm that is a problem so I think it depends if sans can stay alive until he uses blue bones and wins

 

[ShionAH]

Blue attacks being a wincon makes me happy since most sans threads ends in his first attack

 

[Chariot190]

If kars has that its a stomp

he doesnt have it listed, but he innately scales above characters who can survive attacks to the soul

Oh yeah, actually, I got a question, would it be a stretch to say Kars >>> almost everyone in terms of skill and adaptability considering his Intelligence and the fact that he's the Ultimate Lifeform?

it would, because they say as much in a guide, and featwise that mf wack, instantly mastered Hamon which has a bunch of statements for difficulty like only 1/10,000 can even try to learn it, most takes decades to learn the basics, exceptional prodigies like Joseph and Jonathan taking weeks to get to an ok level, etc

Do they sense danger? Hmm that is a problem so I think it depends if sans can stay alive until he uses blue bones and wins

There's animals irl that could sense the displacement of air and stuff. Kars himself already had wacky enhanced senses in base, but, in fact, in this key his antenna is directly stated to be able to sense heat and air movement.

Also Strym did bring up a good point, Pillar Men can contort and destroy their own body to impossible degrees to avoid attacks, if he gets nicked even once, for a fraction of a second, he can contort his body just fine to avoid incoming attacks, and he's already extremely skillful in doing so anyhow (even someone like santana is hard to hit). Couple in the fact Kars can fly in this key, he can just lmao outrange while swerving and avoiding incoming stuff.

Also wanna mention he has projectiles, that themselves can shapeshift, meaning even if sans dodges his own spray of say, danmaku shells, if sans isnt paying attention, which he likely wouldnt be, when the fired shells decide to turn into 10m+ long tentacles to crush him, he's not gonna see it coming.

 

[ShionAH]

. Just pray Chariot doesn't come here and write a ******* bible of text.

you were right

 

[Chariot190]

If you need any scans, as the residential jojo ****** I got the goods

 

[ShionAH]

he doesnt have it listed, but he innately scales above characters who can survive attacks to the soul

Uh this should be checked if he can do that its a stomp

There's animals irl that could sense the displacement of air and stuff. Kars himself already had wacky enhanced senses in base, but, in fact, in this key his antenna is directly stated to be able to sense heat and air movement.

The heat part is irrelevant and the bones come from the ground so not sure if he will be able to sense them

Also Strym did bring up a good point, Pillar Men can contort and destroy their own body to impossible degrees to avoid attacks, if he gets nicked even once, for a fraction of a second, he can contort his body just fine to avoid incoming attacks

Not sure if this will work because sans doesnt attack your body but attacks your soul so His body is out of the picture if that makes sense

, and he's already extremely skillful in doing so anyhow (even someone like santana is hard to hit). Couple in the fact Kars can fly in this key, he can just lmao outrange while swerving and avoiding incoming stuff.

Sans would probably just TK him down if needed, does he like to outrange and fly away IC or does he fight?

Also wanna mention he has projectiles, that themselves can shapeshift, meaning even if sans dodges his own spray of say, danmaku shells, if sans isnt paying attention, which he likely wouldnt be, when the fired shells decide to turn into 10m+ long tentacles to crush him, he's not gonna see it coming.

Oh believe me hitting sans is NOT easy heh, sans doesn't have to pay attention since he was able to dodge while sleeping against a opponent he didnt they can move while his stamina was close to zero. He can also dodge frisk without an effort when they literally know where he is going to be at.

 

[Chariot190]

Kars is also a dirty mf and doesn't care about being fair. He could just solar flare and blind Sans and vanish in the light, and pick him off by surprise.

The heat part is irrelevant and the bones come from the ground so not sure if he will be able to sense them

They'll displace air, they might come from the ground but they have to emerge from it to actually hit him, he'll just sense and do like a 5 story back flip out of the way into wings and fly from that point on or something.

Not sure if this will work because sans doesnt attack your body but attacks your soul so His body is out of the picture if that makes sense

Obviously, Kars' soul is contained with his body, if he does a very epic backflip out of the way, his soul will be moved along with it, if he smashes every bone in his bone and shred every muscle fiber to contort his body like Luffy or something to avoid some attacks, the soul is gonna be avoiding that stuff too, if the attacks fail to hit his body, they'll by proxy fail to hit his soul.

Sans would probably just TK him down if needed, does he like to outrange and fly away IC or does he fight?

In Ultimate, he's pretty iconic for the flight stuff, it's why like all his Ultimate renders have wings, official or otherwise. Most of his time as Ultimate was with him in a winged form so yeah, it's entirely in-character. You could even argue it's borderline a lead.
Kars' LS is laughably above Sans' TK, the soul, in JoJo, is contained within the body and like every other media tbh, Sans might be able to TK his soul, but it'll be a tug of war between Sans' soul tk trying to move the body, and Kar's body trying to move the soul. In a match like that, Sans ain't winning.
I'd also like to point out Kars has Hamon, if Sans tries to slam Kars, Kars can just channel Hamon through the ground and, metaphorically, light a fire under Sans' ass and have attacks burst up from beneath him.

Oh believe me hitting sans is NOT easy heh,

Kars has fought, and can tag, people with instinctive reactions if that's what you're trying to get at hell even caesar has instinctive kung fu because reasons. Dodging a knife strike isn't the same as dodging a bunch of wild homing-in rats that one shot or plane-sized tentacles that come from nowhere and stealth him lowkey. All while trying to hit Kars himself. Every single piece of Kars' body can be controlled remotely, and transformed, if Kars shoots like 100 feathers towards Sans, every one of those feathers shot can turn into whole organisms and just overwhelm Sans, or something else, he isn't that restricted (btw, even a small rodent made by Kars can punch through steel and mutilate people).

sans doesn't have to pay attention since he was able to dodge while sleeping against a opponent he didnt they can move while his stamina was close to zero. He can also dodge frisk without an effort when they literally know where he is going to be at.

Kars doesn't need to rest and can stay active for a whole year, his stamina is kinda cracked. Any reason why Kars can't just outlast him if need be? Not that he can't tag him, but assuming for argument's sake he can not, outlasting Sans' stamina is a complete nonissue for Kars.

 

[Chariot190]

Kars is 10k years old

he's actually 112,000 years old

 

[ShionAH]

Kars is also a dirty mf and doesn't care about being fair. He could just solar flare and blind Sans and vanish in the light, and pick him off by surprise.

Sans doesnt need to see to dodge

They'll displace air, they might come from the ground but they have to emerge from it to actually hit him, he'll just sense and do like a 5 story back flip out of the way into wings and fly from that point on or something.

He will be slammed on the ground btw then the bones will stab him after sans gives him like a tiny bit of opening

Obviously, Kars' soul is contained with his body, if he does a very epic backflip out of the way, his soul will be moved along with it, if he smashes every bone in his bone and shred every muscle fiber to contort his body like Luffy or something to avoid some attacks, the soul is gonna be avoiding that stuff too, if the attacks fail to hit his body, they'll by proxy fail to hit his soul.

No what I mean is even if Kars was like 50 meters tall his soul would be the same height and sans would have to hit that or if Kars was like 1 cms tall his soul would be the same so his body doesnt really matter what matters is how he moves his soul. Elasticity wont work

In Ultimate, he's pretty iconic for the flight stuff, it's why like all his Ultimate renders have wings, official or otherwise. Most of his time as Ultimate was with him in a winged form so yeah, it's entirely in-character. You could even argue it's borderline a lead.
Kars' LS is laughably above Sans' TK, the soul, in JoJo, is contained within the body and like every other media tbh, Sans might be able to TK his soul, but it'll be a tug of war between Sans' soul tk trying to move the body, and Kar's body trying to move the soul. In a match like that, Sans ain't winning.

Remember sans never tries to overpower his opponent with TK actually. He just throws them around and then lets them go.

I'd also like to point out Kars has Hamon, if Sans tries to slam Kars, Kars can just channel Hamon through the ground and, metaphorically, light a fire under Sans' ass and have attacks burst up from beneath him.

Sans would just dodge them lol.

Kars has fought, and can tag, people with instinctive reactions if that's what you're trying to get at hell even caesar has instinctive kung fu because reasons. Dodging a knife strike isn't the same as dodging a bunch of wild homing-in rats that one shot or plane-sized tentacles that come from nowhere and stealth him lowkey. All while trying to hit Kars himself. Every single piece of Kars' body can be controlled remotely, and transformed, if Kars shoots like 100 feathers towards Sans, every one of those feathers shot can turn into whole organisms and just overwhelm Sans, or something else, he isn't that restricted (btw, even a small rodent made by Kars can punch through steel and mutilate people).

Remember sans has the reaction speed advantage and has pretty good instinctive reactions so he will be able to dodge them without a problem tbh. Maybe the only problem would be AoE if Kars has any. Sans can also teleport out if extremely needed while you may argue its not really IC sans is a dirty player and will abuse everything to win.

Kars doesn't need to rest and can stay active for a whole year, his stamina is kinda cracked. Any reason why Kars can't just outlast him if need be? Not that he can't tag him, but assuming for argument's sake he can not, outlasting Sans' stamina is a complete nonissue for Kars.

If kars comes to blue attacks its a automatic win for sans they are basically undodgeable unless you have knowledge and Kars cannot just understand how they work.

 

[Rikimarox2]

I don't really see how sans will tens of attacks that transform into tens of meter *****. He never fought against things like that, and are way, way above his pay grade.

 

[ShionAH]

I don't really see how sans will tens of attacks that transform into tens of meter *****.

What

 

[Rikimarox2]

This:

Also wanna mention he has projectiles, that themselves can shapeshift, meaning even if sans dodges his own spray of say, danmaku shells, if sans isnt paying attention, which he likely wouldnt be, when the fired shells decide to turn into 10m+ long tentacles to crush him, he's not gonna see it coming

 

[ShionAH]

This:

Teleportation if needed

 

[Chariot190]

Sans doesnt need to see to dodge

Kars can mask his presence and bloodlust, it's not the same as dodging a basic knife strike as Frisk, also even if he could dodge, let's say that Kars uses his sabres, he can extend them and increase the range by quite a bit, enough to bisect multiple people at once, even if he dodges, that doesn't mean he dodges the full attack. instinctive reactions or not, Sans can and will be taken off guard, as he was taken off guard by Frisk breaking the game and got tagged, his dodge is good, not infallible tho.

He will be slammed on the ground btw then the bones will stab him after sans gives him like a tiny bit of opening

That isn't true though, there's a delay between the slam and when the bones emerge, even Frisk, who can't hold a candle to Kars mobility, acrobatics, reflexes (as in just how quick he's to react in a given situation without being dumbstruck, not in terms of speed), LS and more. Half a second from Sans/Kars' perspective is beyond enough time to retaliate and dodge them.

No what I mean is even if Kars was like 50 meters tall his soul would be the same height and sans would have to hit that or if Kars was like 1 cms tall his soul would be the same so his body doesnt really matter what matters is how he moves his soul. Elasticity wont work

Sans has to hit Kars' body to hit Kars soul, if Kars physically dodges his attacks, his soul dodges as well. Everything you just said doesn't change that.

Sans would just dodge them lol.

Based on? Dodging a knife stab isn't at all comparable to the shit he has to dodge here. Like, imagine if Sans had to dodge a hundred knife stabs from all directions, constantly, and probably even imbued with Hamon, or attacks from below, and above, and blindspots too.

Remember sans has the reaction speed advantage and has pretty good instinctive reactions so he will be able to dodge them without a problem tbh. Maybe the only problem would be AoE if Kars has any. Sans can also teleport out if extremely needed while you may argue its not really IC sans is a dirty player and will abuse everything to win.

I'm well aware of what Sans can do, Kars does, in fact, have AOE with Hamon, almost every Hamon dude does, depending on the environment anyway. But they're fighting in the Judgement hall, some of Kars attacks can take up like, the whole space give or take, where exactly is Sans dodging to?

Sans ain't teleporting away from a hundred High 8-C piranhas or tendrils. And he most certainly isn't dodging all that, he quite literally, physically, can not dodge if there's nowhere to dodge to.

If kars comes to blue attacks its a automatic win for sans they are basically undodgeable unless you have knowledge and Kars cannot just understand how they work.

Oh sweet summer child, Kars would probably figure out exactly how it works in a matter of moments. Mf learned his weakness in literally one try. Let me put it this way, if it's at all conceivable for a human to figure out how it works, even slightly, Kars has already done so five minutes ago.
And Kars' LS >>>>> Blue.

Teleportation if needed

That just tells Kars he can teleport and to spread his attacks out so no matter where he teleports to, he's just ****** (Unless you're arguing Sans teleports across the underground to dodge for some reason? But I'd argue doing that would make him lose track of Kars once he returns and just seals his fate).

 

[StrymULTRA]

I dunno if Sans bypassing LS is accepted from this btw

 

[ShionAH]

For the love of god can you make these a bit shorter? ROLF

Kars can mask his presence and bloodlust, it's not the same as dodging a basic knife strike as Frisk, also even if he could dodge, let's say that Kars uses his sabres, he can extend them and increase the range by quite a bit, enough to bisect multiple people at once, even if he dodges, that doesn't mean he dodges the full attack. instinctive reactions or not, Sans can and will be taken off guard, as he was taken off guard by Frisk breaking the game and got tagged, his dodge is good, not infallible tho.

He can teleport away if its needed and because he has higher reaction speed he can realize theres no way to dodge this attack and just go away. He can also stop time but thats less probable.

That isn't true though, there's a delay between the slam and when the bones emerge, even Frisk, who can't hold a candle to Kars mobility, acrobatics, reflexes (as in just how quick he's to react in a given situation without being dumbstruck, not in terms of speed), LS and more. Half a second from Sans/Kars' perspective is beyond enough time to retaliate and dodge them.

This is wrong. Frisk knows how to use their souls, the blue mode, the red box and all of that while Kars would have no idea what to do in that case. He can dodge them but it is more likely he will take hit and get his hp down to which means he cannot take another hit or else he will die.

Sans has to hit Kars' body to hit Kars soul, if Kars physically dodges his attacks, his soul dodges as well. Everything you just said doesn't change that.

Kars has to dodge them with his soul. Just because he can make his body elastic and turn into various forms to dodge them doesnt mean he literally changes his own soul to be different.

Based on? Dodging a knife stab isn't at all comparable to the shit he has to dodge here. Like, imagine if Sans had to dodge a hundred knife stabs from all directions, constantly, and probably even imbued with Hamon, or attacks from below, and above,

If that happens chances are sans just teleports away I was talking more about the fact that he wont get caught off guard from an attack thats from the below and will just dodge it obviously if he sees a million attacks coming his way he will teleport away.

and blindspots too.

A person who can dodge while sleeping doesnt have blindspots.

I'm well aware of what Sans can do, Kars does, in fact, have AOE with Hamon, almost every Hamon dude does, depending on the environment anyway. But they're fighting in the Judgement hall, some of Kars attacks can take up like, the whole space give or take, where exactly is Sans dodging to?

what does kars even start with? Does he start with that AoE and danmaku? Anyways if the place is filled sans can just you know...teleport outside.

Sans ain't teleporting away from a hundred High 8-C piranhas or tendrils. And he most certainly isn't dodging all that, he quite literally, physically, can not dodge if there's nowhere to dodge to.

How the hell is he not teleporting away from that? They don't cover the entire place? They are just a lot of summons that attack that sans can dodge with his higher reaction speed or teleprot if needed.

Oh sweet summer child, Kars would probably figure out exactly how it works in a matter of moments. Mf learned his weakness in literally one try.

Yeah but thats a NLF. You cannot just act like Kars can understand how everything works just because he did in his own verse.

Let me put it this way, if it's at all conceivable for a human to figure out how it works, even slightly, Kars has already done so five minutes ago.

Human doesnt figure it out. Its told them.

And Kars' LS >>>>> Blue.

Blue doesnt matter when the bones are extremely long and sans can just force him down.

That just tells Kars he can teleport and to spread his attacks out so no matter where he teleports to, he's just ******.

If sans realizes that much attack Kars uses he can also use his time stop faster and that will be a big issue for Kars

 

[ShionAH]

I dunno if Sans bypassing LS is accepted from this btw

It doesnt but what if does is slam someone down and let them go before they can use their LS to break out

 

[ShionAH]

Thats only 10 piranhas.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Thats only 10 piranhas.

Just saying that those pirahnas were originally a fuckload of scales that were shoot from Kars.

Context is everything.

 

[ShionAH]

Just saying that those pirahnas were originally a fuckload of scales that were shoot from Kars.

Context is everything.

I don't understand. We see 10 piranhas and 1 octopus thats all is there a scan with hundreds since you guys claimed thats what it is?

 

[StrymULTRA]

I don't understand. We see 10 piranhas and 1 octopus thats all is there a scan with hundreds since you guys claimed thats what it is?

I think it was an exaggeration from Chariot's part. They're definitely dozens tho.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Besides, I counted the votes, it's pretty clear who is voting for who at this point lol.

 

[ShionAH]

I think it was an exaggeration from Chariot's part. They're definitely dozens tho.

Theres only 10 Piranhas. 1 Octopus. 1 Squirrel. Can I see the scan showing the minigun was not a normal minigun but a MFTL one?

 

[ShionAH]

Besides, I counted the votes, it's pretty clear who is voting for who at this point lol.

We are still debating. If I see a bit more in depht I might vote for Kars. Wait for us to end this debate first.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Theres only 10 Piranhas. 1 Octopus. 1 Squirrel. Can I see the scan showing the minigun was not a normal minigun but a MFTL one?

It is part of the body of this dude who is MFTL. I think it's enough.

 

[It_is_i_wyatt]

Theres only 10 Piranhas. 1 Octopus. 1 Squirrel. Can I see the scan showing the minigun was not a normal minigun but a MFTL one?

stroheims profile?

 

[ShionAH]

It is part of the body of this dude who is MFTL. I think it's enough.

stroheims profile?

Is that how wiki treats guns? The dude is MFTL sure but how can we know the bullets are also MFTL? He might have slower bullet speed

 

[ShionAH]

I looked at the profile it is noted as Weapon Mastery "Has a fully automatic machine gun within his body" So not sure if we can call it MFTL.

 

[Chariot190]

He can teleport away if its needed and because he has higher reaction speed he can realize theres no way to dodge this attack and just go away. He can also stop time but thats less probable.

If he didn't do it in the Frisk fight, he ain't doing it here, meaning no DIO bullshit.
Teleportation only helps so much.

This is wrong. Frisk knows how to use their souls, the blue mode, the red box and all of that while Kars would have no idea what to do in that case. He can dodge them but it is more likely he will take hit and get his hp down to which means he cannot take another hit or else he will die.

It isn't wrong, Frisk might know how to do that but, as I just said, Kars' soul is intriguingl connected to his body, if blue mode can't stop his physical body from moving, which it can't, because Kars outclass' it in force/LS by thousands of times. This isn't an Undertale battle lad, those things might be canon to Undertale, but it isn't like Kars and him are taking turns attacking here or using item menus.

Kars will dodge, and that's kinda it, not much more to say. Gravity stuff won't help against a dude who can lift like 1000 tons with one finger.

Kars has to dodge them with his soul. Just because he can make his body elastic and turn into various forms to dodge them doesnt mean he literally changes his own soul to be different.

Uh, do you think Kars' soul is just out floating in a void? It isn't, Kars' soul is connected to his body, if his body moves, his soul moves, to hit his soul, means to hit his body. The bones must strike his body to get to his soul, there's no way around this, souls are a very established thing in JoJo, it ain't like in Undertale where they're a wacky heart in a void which i'd argue is still within Frisk's body and he's just physically moving to dodge anyhow

And for argument's sake, let's say his heart IS floating off in a disconnected void, Sans would be totally ****** because Kars can just protect his own soul via his tremendous stat advantage, immortality, regen and more.

How the hell is he not teleporting away from that? They don't cover the entire place? They are just a lot of summons that attack that sans can dodge with his higher reaction speed or teleprot if needed.

My brother in christ, the summons can turn into dozen meter long tentacles, elephants, expand and increase in size, and Kars can fire off how many ever he wants. I was using rats as an example, imagine hundreds of tentacles that can rip through steel the size of warplanes in this case if you want.

Yeah but thats a NLF. You cannot just act like Kars can understand how everything works just because he did in his own verse.

nothing sans has isn't anything that doesnt already exist in jojo tho

Human doesnt figure it out. Its told them.

I mean, of any human, not UNdertale humans, but humans in general. Let me put this into perspective, Santana, a Pillar Men so ******* useless and dumb as shit compared to Kars, can figure out complex technology, moves, techniques and so on in mere moments. He was so fodder, useless and dumb as a brick compared to Kars and his squad, they straight up disowned him and left him on a different continent.

Blue doesnt matter when the bones are extremely long and sans can just force him down.

Being long doesn't matter, as mentioned, Kars can contort his body so much, he can make it so thin he can fit between cracks and vents in a wall for example.
Dude could unironically Monkey D Luffy his own ass and avoid it.
Blue Mode can't force him down is what I'm saying, his LS far eclipses it to the point it's not even funny. Sans could put all his might into trying to weigh down Kars pinky, and would fail.

If sans realizes that much attack Kars uses he can also use his time stop faster and that will be a big issue for Kars

No he wouldn't, if he never did it against Frisk in such a way, he will never use it in the manner you speak of in any fight, even if it's the smartest thing to do ever.

It doesnt but what if does is slam someone down and let them go before they can use their LS to break out

My brother, that's assuming Blue Mode even budges him to begin with.

Stroheim's gun is not MFTL, it's just a very epic minigun, and Kars bisecting all the bullets casually has been calced at High Hypersonic+ (like mach 78) based on it being a normal one. But it doesn't matter when Kars inherently upscales any biological lifeform in the verse in any capability, and there have been lads who have dealt with danmaku before. Not like he needs it here tho, danmaku isn't an issue due to his biology, flight and other such things.
also mentioned previously, Kars can outlast sans zero diff with stamina

 

[It_is_i_wyatt]

attack speed scaling, why would he ever use a gun thats a bajillion times slower than his own physical attacks

 

[StrymULTRA]

Stroheim's gun is not MFTL, it's just a very epic minigun.

Didn't it shock Joseph and Kars though? Plus Stroheim's body was made to fight off pillar men.

 

[Ikelaggan]

I'm pretty sure kars has two steps of analytical prediction above even young Joseph who can predict your actions and next line you say.

 

[Chariot190]

Thats only 10 piranhas.

10 in that specific panel, the rest of the feathers turned into a bunch off-screen that were breaking the plane, and also tentacles to stop the plane.

 

[Chariot190]

Didn't it shock Joseph and Kars though? Plus Stroheim's body was made to fight off pillar men.

It shocked him because that mf just whipped out a minigun from his torso.
It had nothing to do with speed (Kars even blocks before he shoots it), we see immediately after that the speed is a complete non-issue to Kars, and he casually walks through every bullet, slicing them to pieces.

 

[Chariot190]

attack speed scaling, why would he ever use a gun thats a bajillion times slower than his own physical attacks

Because he literally did, why he did doesn't matter if he did straightup, but we kinda know why, it was mostly because it's heavy-duty armor piercing that can punch through steel plates and also long range, and also lowkey danmaku, something he did in an attempt to mutilate Kars' bodily mass to compromise his healing factor.
The guns speed is literally just gun speed.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Because he literally did, why he did doesn't matter if he did straightup, but we kinda know why, it was mostly because it's heavy-duty armor piercing that can punch through steel plates and also long range, and also lowkey danmaku, something he did in an attempt to mutilate Kars' bodily mass to compromise his healing factor.
The guns speed is literally just gun speed.

600 armored bullets per minute

Nvm then.

But yeah, it definitely should be some minor degree of Danmaku on his profile.

 

[Chariot190]

It very well should, Kars, Stroheim, and the whole of Part 2 are missing quite a bit of abilities, some minor as **** (like acrobatics), some actually quite impressive (the whole blood energy shit, a bunch of hamon stuff, masking, etc).
but baken put me at gunpoint to overhail part 3 lads like kira so i stopped doing part 2 and moved to part 3