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1. Instances where Plato's Theory of Forms is directly mentioned
- This fact may make you suprised, but it was mentioned firstly in Genshin Impact (Before Sun and Moon)
- It was stated again in Chapter 31EX: Project Stigma by Mobius and Will of Stigma"The Parable of the Sun"
In a dark cavern, there lived a group of people who had never seen the light. Among them was a sage who had once seen the sun, and he told the gathered folk about what life under the sun was like, and about the great might of the sun. Seeing that they did not comprehend, he lit a torch — and thus did people come to worship the flame, believing it to be the sun. They even got used to a life of darkness and fire.
When the sage died, someone would monopolize the flame. Using it, they would cast a long shadow over the land.
???: Heh.
???: Anyhow, we’re living in an underground cave. Oh, I’m not talking about this vault!
???: We’re merely primitives chained in a cave and facing a blank wall with a fire behind us.
???: Occasionally, shadows are projected on the wall… those shadows are the world to us.
???: This is okay for most primitives. They put their heart and soul into them, worshiping and extolling their made up stories.
???: Suppose at long last, a primitive broke free from the chains and went straight outside the cave. It goes without saying that the outside world is unbounded and spectacular.
???: The question is, do you think this primitive would stay outside or go back to save the others?
Kevin: …They don’t necessarily need saving. There are things that the primitive must do.
???: Oh? That’s an interesting answer. But Kevin, don’t tell me you’ve…
???: …Taken yourself as that fire in the cave?
Will of Stigmata: Stigmata record their knowledge and your history. If we apply that allegory to our civilisation…
Will of Stigmata: I fear that humans are the shadows on the wall, and Stigmata are all things true outside the cave.
Will of Stigmata: Humans are prone to errors and depravity. They can create beauty, but they often destroy it. It’s hard to deny that these are the reasons they’re dominated by failure.
2. More description about Idealism in Hoyoverse
- Although it was firstly mentioned in Genshin Impact, the hints about it was firstly mentioned in Chapter 15 and 17 of Honkai Impact 3rd. Imaginary Tree, is described as ultimate truth and the origin of truth
The terra incognita where laws governing the universe and the ultimate truth of life came into being…
…The Imaginary Tree. - Chapter 15 Honkai Impact 3rd
Otto: Correct! The Key is not just an observation tool. It replicates the Void Queen’s powers to create a route to the Tree.
Otto: The instant of eternity, the start of the end, the origin of laws and truth… that is where I want to be. - Chapter 17 Honkai Impact 3rd
Otto: It is the Imaginary authority’s original form. The incarnation of truth in this world.
- Besides, Aeons that human sense is also described as "projections from higher dimension"
- Herrscher is also described as the projections from Coccon of Finality and it is eternity. Kiana, who is equal to Cocoon is also "transcending all dimesions"
Tesla: The Cocoon of Finality is the only Imaginary singularity and the only Herrscher Core. Its projections between different dimensions caused different Herrscher authorities to appear in reality. - Chapter 34 Honkai Impact 3rd
“So imagine such a being deep in the starry sky.”
“Like humans, they are rooted in a planet.”
“But unlike humans, they went further and merged with the planet.”
“Their will is omnipresent and everlasting, and their hearts are undivided…”
“If such a civilisation existed, what do you think it’d wish for?”
“As I see it, it would desperately want to…”
“Hug its kind.” - Chapter 33 Honkai Impact 3rd
- Ideas is also "the origin of all abstract concepts" and Ideas will help people reflect an outline of what we’d call truth.Schrodinger: So, to replicate Durandal’s feat, the Herrscher authority we need should either transcend all dimensions or stand fully independent of the proper world. In other words, the only one that can do it is perhaps…
Schrodinger: Kiana herself who is equal to the Cocoon, or…
Schrodinger: A Herrscher born in the Sea of Quanta.
reflect an outline of what we’d call truth. It will help remove the boundary between fiction and reality
Prometheus: Project STIGMA’s lowest-level logic is existence. This is what fiction is built on and the origin of all abstract concepts.
Prometheus: It’s built on existence… the words aren’t important. At any rate, they express existence’s two most important properties: freedom and self-consciousness.
Prometheus: Ideas are at the core of Project STIGMA. Ideas give people enlightenment and reflect an outline of what we’d call truth.
Prometheus: Ideas will always have contradictions… But this is how they express existence and remove the boundary between fiction and reality.
Prometheus: For Project STIGMA, life is the most direct idea, while absoluteness is the highest idea.
Prometheus: This way, the absoluteness of life is set within fiction…
Prometheus: So it can be liberated from individuality and become a truth in and of itself.
Prometheus: …Typically, the cost of such transcendence is death.
Prometheus: It’s difficult to resist death, as it’s a paradox in itself.
Prometheus: Life seeks universality through fiction, but only exists individually.
Prometheus: And so… with Project STIGMA, the death of the individual advances the spirit. - Chapter 33 Honkai Impact 3rd
In conclusion, Hoyoverse uses Plato's Theory of Forms in their cosmology, so at least upgrade for tier Low 1-C(now) and 1-A in the future. The Aeons and Kiana, who is also described as Platonic concept is abstract existence type 1 - Concept(Type 1)
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