PIRATES VS NINJAS(win) 20V20 (6B and below) CONCLUDED

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I swear i read kisame in there, still, not only does tobirama use water, but they can just ask the mindhaxed ones

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

madara gets moved down a key.(edo madara) unless you guys want him to fight with no eyes?

a doffy clone+ "endless" biscuit solders that are "low 6-B" hold my dick

kisame isn't on the list btw unless you want me to switch him with someone? law, shiki, kuma or big mom can lolnope it.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Does One Piece characters have chakra to be controlled by genjutsu?

Some genjutsus don't require chakra

Some genjutsus put Chakra into their opponents to Mind Hax them..

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

madara gets moved down a key.(edo madara) unless you guys want him to fight with no eyes?

a doffy clone+ "endless" biscuit solders that are "low 6-B" hold my dick

kisame isn't on the list btw unless you want me to switch him with someone? law, shiki, kuma or big mom can lolnope it.

Kisame litiraly solos most via ice resistant water, so no.

And still, the clones get easly destroyed by things like tailed beast an water

 

[CursedGentleman]

Naruto uses "Lolnope talk no jutsu" Now there is a new village called One Piecegakure and Luffy is the First Kage, which is called Onekage.

Friendship forever

 

[CursedGentleman]

Does One Piece characters have chakra to be controlled by genjutsu?

Some genjutsus don't require chakra

Some genjutsus put Chakra into their opponents to Mind Hax them..

Can you give me some examples of that? It was a time since I last saw Naruto

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

depends if Naruto infuses chakra into them. a heavy hit should do, even a stab. shanks's conquers haki could prolly get rid of them all. him on guard was wrecking whitebeards ship

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Forgot devil fruit users can't be submerged in water.

However I don't think the Naruto team would use it sense they have any knowledge about it.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Can you give me some examples of that? It was a time since I last saw Naruto

All sharingan genjustu

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

depends if Naruto infuses chakra into them. a heavy hit should do, even a stab. shanks's conquers haki could prolly get rid of them all. him on guard was wrecking whitebeards ship

No, a ship doesent have the same durability as narutos clones, those things can tanks attacks that dont do actual dammage such as sauke suckerpunches

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

tail beast at best is 6-c, 1 of crackers clones are low 6-b...

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The weakest tailed beast is high 6c, and thats whitout charging up attacks

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

would they even get time to charge up attacks considering the fact that these same clones are faster and stronger than g2 and g3 luffy?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Looking at the fact that they can just regen and phase through attacks? Probably

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And the snail is pretty slimy

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

there's people such as mihawk, zoro and law who can cut with shockwave from distance. big mom's incineration and there's also bfr.

 

[Rocker1189]

Yeah cut with shockwaves the same diatance as Madara who literally cuts across kilometers with shockwaves.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Beastbombs don't need charging. I don't know who told you that...

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

mihawk can do the same thing and law's cutting potency(with larger room >>>

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

they take a few seconds to charge up. the more destructive ones do more. only seen the ten tails do that much with a second to no time to charge.

 

[Rocker1189]

Dude as I have said Kurama has fired 10s of tem with no charging time. It is annoying dealing with the same old arguments over and over

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[Yoh_Asakura8]

that's kurama, haven't seen the others do that, and they were in the war at the beginning till end.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

https://youtu.be/ioCsijlkSRo

Seconds and the only reason it took the othe bijuu awhile because they were all pooling into one bijuu bomb

https://youtu.be/KyonN7h9vME

Here you can see the 8 and 9 tailed rapid fire them in seconds.

 

[Rocker1189]

Also as has been said genjutsu reks them, Tobirama can do aoe genjutsus and water techniques.

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

they can indeed rapid fire but again, did they not charge up a few second 1st? and how are they bypassing observation haki?

 

[Rocker1189]

By being faster and scaling to mach 3000. And again instant genjutsu.

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

shisui ain't using his genjutsu since he never once used it in a fight or war. itachi's genjutsu would work but katakuri can see it affecting others or himself and find out the weakness and fight with their eyes closed since it requires eye contact. water can get repeled, frozen or controlled by shiki, law and big mom.

I've probably repeated myself more times than you guys because this righ here is valid counters that work in character. :^]

 

[Celestial_Judge]

They weren't charging anything it was still forming into a ball/s

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

forming into balls = charging = seconds prep. :^\

 

[Celestial_Judge]

Shusui used his Genjutsu when needed.

All other situations he was either perfectly fine or tried not to hurt his opponent.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

And can't one Piece devil fruit users have to be above water for their devil fruits to work?

Tobirama and Kisame gg

 

[Rocker1189]

There is literally no weakness to tsukuyomi apart from high chakra usage unless you are going to make up a weakness. He can also just point at them.

Water is too strong for Kuma to repel it.

And againt 2 forest creation jutsus to force them to sleep and being 3 times faster.

Also Amaterasu can hurt logias because it can even burn other flames.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

I don't even know why this is still open.

Easily top 3 stomps I've seen on this website...

 

[Rocker1189]

Yeah, this needs to be closed, repeating same argument over and over and no budging might as well close it.

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

even at his last dying moment, he never used it but gave it away. only every assisted on uchihas because it was the only way to not harm his own clan. outside of that, he never used it for any other reasons. he could've enslaved enemy villages or even danzo but unfortunately he never did. this has to be in character.

 

[Rocker1189]

Right whatever I am tired of arguing it, let us just close it.

 

[Yoh_Asakura8]

maybe because i'ts a stomp because it wasn't in character, 6-b and below wasn't used, new upgrades weren't used, it wasn't a 20v20 and the people arguing aren't that knowledgeable in one piece's defence? :^]

 

[Celestial_Judge]

^Im pretty sure he used other forms of Genjutsu on other villages on missions.

He has more than one Genjutsu....

 

[Rocker1189]

Not at all, we have argued things over and over and given in story reasons why he did not do particular things but you would not change no matter what. While ignoring all of Naruto's advantages and saying something stupid like "without genjutsu?" seriously if you want one piece to win so badly just say one piece wins and have it over with.

 

[Celestial_Judge]

And Danzo was head of the anbu at the time, if he would've killed him there would be a situation in the leaf, which he didn't want. He wanted the opposite infact. Which is why he trusted Itachi with his eye to protect the leaf and stop the coup.