Phoenixman Profile Rework.

[Quangotjokes]

I think it's time we revisit the Phoenixman fight in the redraw. Firstly, in the official translations there isn't any statements about a mental space and spirit and spiritual are the only words used. Here you see he refers to the world as a spiritual space.



Here in this scan unlike the unofficial translations where he stated they're mental projections he states "we are spirits, your swats are futile."

Confirming they're spirits.



Here he states he's summoning spirits from the Afterlife. More supporting evidence of spiritual manipulation.



This is further supported by the fact that the shaman used to summon spirits. Also. Mentioning that the space inside the costumes lead to the spirit world. Which makes sense with how Phoenix summons spirits from "the Afterlife"

Lastly, he can directly interact and corrupt these spirits as shown here.



I suggest he gains soul manipulation and corruption abilities.

 

[SemiRaedi]

What would be granted and/or changed in this case

 

[Quangotjokes]

What would be granted and/or changed in this case

He should gain soul manipulation. And possibly corruption. I should probably add that

 

[Bernkastelll]

Agreed, would it make Saitama have resistance to Soul Manipulation/Corruption?

 

[Quangotjokes]

Agreed, would it make Saitama have resistance to Soul Manipulation/Corruption?

Not too sure, but he does have non physical interaction already. I guess one could argue he can see spirits.

 

[Kachon123]

Resistance to soul manip would work, I'm not too sure about corruption, as Saitama never had it used against him.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Resistance to soul manip would work, I'm not too sure about corruption, as Saitama never had it used against him.

It is part of the same ability, the Spiritual Space corrupts the soul, which is Soul Manip and Corruption at once

 

[Kachon123]

It is part of the same ability, the Spiritual Space corrupts the soul, which is Soul Manip and Corruption at once

Proof?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Proof?

Proof of what? the scans in the OP shows it, he can summon spirits and corrupt them in the Spiritual Space that he creates

 

[Kachon123]

Proof of what? the scans in the OP shows it, he can summon spirits and corrupt them in the Spiritual Space that he creates

I'm asking for proof of corruption being passive. For all we know, Phoenixman could be doing the corruption himself.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

This

I'm asking for proof of corruption being passive. For all we know, Phoenixman could be doing the corruption himself.

 

[Quangotjokes]

I'm asking for proof of corruption being passive. For all we know, Phoenixman could be doing the corruption himself.

He is

 

[SemiRaedi]

So Saitama should just get resistance to soul manip since corruption is something PM has to do manually

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

He is

That's not passive. This all seems fine imo

 

[Bernkastelll]

That's not passive. Corruption seems fine imo, but I'm not sure for soul manip

it was their souls, so, soul manip, as it was affecting the soul, as stated by phoenix man, they were spirits in the spiritual space

 

[Quangotjokes]

That's not passive. Corruption seems fine imo, but I'm not sure for soul manip

I wasn't saying it was passive, was saying the corruption was phoenixman doing it.

 

[Quangotjokes]

So Saitama should just get resistance to soul manip since corruption is something PM has to do manually

I don't see why Saitama should have resistance unless I'm missing something here. Although he was able to see the spirits and Phoenix felt he was a threat.

 

[Quangotjokes]

The soul manipulation for Phoenix comes from this. He's able to summon and control spirits.

 

[Bernkastelll]

The soul manipulation for Phoenix comes from this. He's able to summon and control spirits.

His corruption also affect spirits, as it was affecting child emperor spirit

 

[Quangotjokes]

His corruption also affect spirits, as it was affecting child emperor spirits

Yeah there's a lot of justification for it.

 

[Bernkastelll]

btw, do u have the link to that redraw in the Cubari?

 

[SemiRaedi]

I guess Saitama wouldn't get anything then since he broke in and PM never really attempted to do any soul manipulation or corruption on him iirc

 

[Quangotjokes]

btw, do u have the link to that redraw in the Cubari?

Yeah, but it doesn't have official translations. Give me a sec and I'll link the official.

 

[Quangotjokes]

@Bernkastelll here it is

Edit: it isn't working lol. *********** page 102

 

[Bernkastelll]

@Bernkastelll here it is

https://*********** com/read-online/Onepunch-Man-chapter-102-page-1.html

censored.... kek

 

[Quangotjokes]

censored.... kek

Yeah the volume release for the (manga) is on the website. You'll have to go to the website if you want to (see) the chapter. It's chapter 102 not chapter (123).

 

[Bernkastelll]

Yeah the volume release for the (manga) is on the website. You'll have to go to the website if you want to (see) the chapter. It's chapter 102 not chapter (123).

I cant find the redraw in the site, it appears the old chapter

 

[Quangotjokes]

I cant find the redraw in the site, it appears the old chapter

You sure? It starts with the volume for me.

@Bernkastelll here it is

Edit: it isn't working lol. *********** page 102

Put it in here where the stars are and see if that works.

 

[Bernkastelll]

do u have discord?

 

[Quangotjokes]

do u have discord?

Yeah, but here I found a solution. Click this link and it's in the comments.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Yeah, but here I found a solution. Click this link and it's in the comments.

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[TimmyTurnero]

This seems fine.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Also, his profile needs BFR added, as he can BFR people to his spiritual space

 

[Quangotjokes]

Also, his profile needs BFR added, as he can BFR people to his spiritual space

I thought that was added already? Good find.

 

[Kachon123]

His corruption also affect spirits, as it was affecting child emperor spirit

My argument is not wether Phoenix Man was using Corruption. It is that Saitama should not have resistance against Corruption, as it was never shown/stated that Phoenix Man's ability is passive, and even if it wasn't, he never used it on Saitama.

 

[TimmyTurnero]

My argument is not wether Phoenix Man was using Corruption. It is that Saitama should not have resistance against Corruption, as it was never shown/stated that Phoenix Man's ability is passive, and even if it wasn't, he never used it on Saitama.

I agree with Kachon.

 

[Quangotjokes]

What do you guys think about Saitama being able to see spirits?

 

[Bernkastelll]

What do you guys think about Saitama being able to see spirits?

its Enhanced Senses i guess?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

its Enhanced Senses i guess?

What's the proof for him seeing spirits? Also I think extrasensory perception is more suited.

 

[Quangotjokes]

What's the proof for him seeing spirits? Also I think extrasensory perception is more suited.

Here