Pardon me Nightmare, is something wrong?

[Christian_Higdon]

....Yeeeeeah, thanks a lot for killing my hope. I quit arguing ATM.

 

[Jackythejack]

Okay trying and doing it are two different things though. He probably wouldn't be doing it as well as nightmare. Also what hax does THT really have?

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

THT: Sans, DaBig

Night: Christ, Demon

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

....Yeeeeeah, thanks a lot for killing my hope. I quit arguing ATM.

"I will argue that invisibility will help tho"

Is that good? I'm trying ...

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Nah, it ain't good enough.

Wait, hold on.

Maybe it is.

I won't argue, but that actually works.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Only minor fear manipulation.

Also he has flight, but that will only cause the fight to go slowly.

 

[Jackythejack]

I...am going to argue on that fear manipulation.

Is there anything said in the text that THT is causing him to be scared? Like physically putting in effort to make him scared? Because it doesn't seem like it.

THT scared a normal human being from what I remembered. And I mean...look at the thing! That's terrifying. It's not that it has fear manipulation. It just scared a guy

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

Can also seemingly extend its limbs too.

Oof, man I hope I did not mess up

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Advantages:

THT: Range, size, flight

Night: Actually kills, nigh-invisibility

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

AP is debatable

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Can also seemingly extend its limbs too.

Oof, man I hope I did not mess up

Not arguing, but this gave me a funny thought.

THT: E X P A N D S arm

Nightmare: grabs

Also Nightmare: NOM

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

Hm, I'm willing to change to Inconclusive honestly, a classic "who will pull the trigger" kind of thing.

 

[Demon_Takumo_31]

Nightmare have teleportation. What prevents him from teleporting to the back of his neck?

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Nightmare have teleportation. What prevents him from teleporting to the back of his neck?

Not in UCN

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Nightmare have teleportation. What prevents him from teleporting to the back of his neck?

The fact that he doesn't have that in this key.

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

Nightmare have teleportation. What prevents him from teleporting to the back of his neck?

Does it use it very often? Is it good?

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Does it use it very often? Is it good?

I mean

He doesn't have it in this key

But okay.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Nightmare have teleportation. What prevents him from teleporting to the back of his neck?

Does it use it very often? Is it good?

Doesn't have it

 

[Jackythejack]

Extending limbs don't mean much when Nightmare could probably break them considering how thin they look, and they seem like they'd easily snap.

His extended melee range doesn't mean much when he still makes physical contact and has to get close. Nightmare can still hit him despite the range.

Fligjt don't mean too much when he still has to make physical contact and Nightmare is nigh invisible so he wouldn't know where to attack. Nightmare also has killing instinct and can teleport around.

I'm voting Nightmare due to better killing instinct and much more useful abilities

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Yeah, TBH, I dunno if I can lean towards Nightmare anymore. I could also say Incon, but I need to see if any reasons for that are provided.

 

[Demon_Takumo_31]

Powers and Abilities: Teleportation!!!!, Stealth Mastery, possibility Self-Sustenance (Types 1, 2, and 3) and Inorganic Physiology (Unknown Type) | All previous abilities besides Teleportation, Invisibility (Invisible on cameras, invisible except for eyes normally), possibly Enhanced Senses

His profle says he have it

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Extending limbs don't mean much when Nightmare could probably break them considering how thin they look, and they seem like they'd easily snap.
His extended melee range doesn't mean much when he still makes physical contact and has to get close. Nightmare can still hit him despite the range.

Fligjt don't mean too much when he still has to make physical contact and Nightmare is nigh invisible so he wouldn't know where to attack. Nightmare also has killing instinct and can teleport around.

I'm voting Nightmare due to better killing instinct and much more useful abilities

He can't teleport

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Powers and Abilities: Teleportation!!!!, Stealth Mastery, possibility Self-Sustenance (Types 1, 2, and 3) and Inorganic Physiology (Unknown Type) | All previous abilities besides Teleportation, Invisibility (Invisible on cameras, invisible except for eyes normally), possibly Enhanced Senses

His profle says he have it

 

[Jackythejack]

Oh oof forgot about that silly me.

Even then invisibility helps a heap load, so my vote still stands

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

Yes, but doesn't really provide much...

I need to know if he uses ofte or if it's good enough since they are... wait, how far apart are they? Oh well, but I'm aware that it has teleportation.


Doesn't have teleportation, oof


But how willing is he to use invisibility?

 

[Jackythejack]

Either way invisibility should still help. I doubt that THT is gonna be looking around specifically for some lights or whatever, and even if he finds them Nightmare could still move out of the way as THT practically has to slam into the ground to attack. Doesn't seem effective

 

[Christian_Higdon]

IIRC, his invisibility is nigh-passive.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Well he doesn't use it in his jumpscare

 

[Christian_Higdon]

I mean, that is true. Hence why I said nigh-passive.

Also, I think that's three for bear boi now?

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Probably adding

 

[Jackythejack]

Even then he wouldn't be jumpscaring the thing if they're in a fight yeah? Jumpscarig wouldn't be his only way of attacking considering all those natural sharp weapons he's got

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

He is never shown using though

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

Again, how often does it use it? How willing is it to use invisibility?

Also, what's the range?

 

[Jackythejack]

Like...basically all the time.

Also you saying those claws are just for show? I'm almost certain he'd at least know how to use them. They're part of his natural physiology. He'd probably understand what to do with them. Same with, you know, biting and grabbing and such. Just because we haven't seen him use his claws doesn't mean that he doesn't know how to just swing his arms and stab

Range is extended melee vs. melee I think? Don't mean much

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

Cool, then my vote does not change much.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Frank

Stop

Please

My hope is dying.

 

[Jackythejack]

But the extended melee range doesn't mean much when it's basically based off extending easily snappable limbs and still physically attacking and getting close to your opponent. He still uses his actual body to fight and leaves himself vulnerable with every attack

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

hmmm, it hurts, I know. I'm sorry. I don't know what to do Help Me Please I'm scared.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Wow suprisingly close.

Also limbs are only thin when extended

 

[Christian_Higdon]

I'm keeping my vote for now.

Besides, we don't want one of my inner voices dying to some giant floating thing, would we?