Pacifist Frisk Vs Fantasy Tzeentch

[A_Sword_Dancer]

Determination grants hax resistance. It always has in every single frisk thread, and there have been many.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

That is a NLF, unless

being infinitely higher at dura = immune to any hax on a infinite lower level .-.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Determination grants hax resistance. It always has in every single frisk thread, and there have been many.

That's never been a thing, though, and it's sure as hell never extended to Conceptual Manipulation.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Their article doesn't seem to mention any of that, the best resistance I could find was Soul Resistance.

 

[Kaltias]

There is no such a thing as "granting hax resistance". You are resistant to concept manipulation if you already resisted it. Otherwise it's a giant NLF

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Resistance to certain powers. Not immunity. Asriel even noted that while Frisk was resisting being erased, it was still beginning to add up and they'd eventually cease to exist.

 

[A_Sword_Dancer]

Determination grants hax resistance. It always has in every single frisk thread, and there have been many.

That's never been a thing, though, and it's sure as hell never extended to Conceptual Manipulation.

If that's how we are going to handle it thats fine, it just conflicts with many previous rulings I've seen on the matter in the past. Granted I haven't been paying much attention here in the past few months.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Resistance to certain powers. Not immunity. Asriel even noted that while Frisk was resisting being erased, it was still beginning to add up and they'd eventually cease to exist.

Frisk can resist being erased now? They have a lot of hax that I didn't know.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Frisk can resist being erased now? They have a lot of hax that I didn't know.

It's one of the few resistances we see a direct example of, actually.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Yeah this was a thing during Asriel fight

 

[A_Sword_Dancer]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Asriel_Dreemurr

Wasn't able to kill Frisk or erase him outright since he just kept coming back into existance even with the timeline destroyed, so he resorted to erasing him over and over again with the statement that eventually it would work but in the game itself you can die and infinite amount of times and not lose the boss fight so idk how many times Frisk would actually need to be erased for it to start having a long term effect (that might be getting into game mechanics though).

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

It's one of the few resistances we see a direct example of, actually.

Then, shouldn't it be on their page? It only mention Resistance to Soul Manipulation.

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Resistance to certain powers. Not immunity. Asriel even noted that while Frisk was resisting being erased, it was still beginning to add up and they'd eventually cease to exist.

@ A Sword Dancer

 

[Newendigo]

Tzeench just need to mindscrew Frisk and then he win.

Tzeench : 2(me and i believe that Kaltias vote for him too?).

Frisk : 4(SwordDancer, Hizack, Loyal and Anonimoe).

Inconclusive : 1(Paulo).

 

[Blahblah9755]

Hasn't Frisk shown to be able to break past The Player's control (mind manipulation/possession) in a few instances? Regardless Tzeench should take this if he can conceptually erase Frisk. And from what others have said, I don't think Tzeench is very likely to choose to let Frisk go, so sparing won't be possible.

 

[Newendigo]

When that's happen?

Tzeench: 3 (Me, Kaltias and Blah).

Frisk: 4 (Sword, Hizack, Loyal and Anonimo).

Inconclusive: 1 (@Paulo( Do you still voting inconclusive?).

 

[Blahblah9755]

I'm not sure, I just remember it being brought up in the past. Doesn't matter much anyway.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Seriously, if Frisk has resistance to Void Manipulation, why isn't it on their page? It only mention resistance to Soul Manipulation.

 

[Kaltias]

@Blahblah

Considering that the Player can force Frisk to be the material executor of the Genocide, no

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Bump

 

[HoboPlayz]

Frisk has infinitely higher durability and attack potency and one of the most op hax in fiction save scumming I see almost no way how Tzeen can win

 

[Newendigo]

Frisk has infinitely higher durability and attack potency and one of the most op hax in fiction save scumming I see almost no way how Tzeen can wi

That is a not-limit-fallacy, saying that save and load is the best power of all fiction.

And Tzeen just need to mess up with mind manipulation, something that Frisk has not resistance. to it.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Frisk is only Multiverse+/2-A at durability they still are 2-B at attack potency

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Bump

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Bump

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Bump

 

[Anonimoe7875]

They can resist possesion from a Incomplete Chara if you still want to know...

Votes:

Tzeench: 3 (Kaltias, Blah and Newendingo).

Frisk: 4 (Sword, Hizack, Loyal, Me).

Inconclusive: 1 (Paulo (are you still voting that?).

 

[Newendigo]

Mmhh I think that spare Tzeench should not be counted as a winning.

 

[Xmark12]

^^^ It's Pacifist Frisk, they're an exception. =3

In all seriousness though, I'm leaning towards inconclusive. Tzeench has no way of killing Frisk, whereas Frisk will, most likely, never be able to SPARE Tzeench, so they're basically stuck in a nigh-infinite loop here.

 

[Newendigo]

Standard Battle assumptions says that they are in character but willing to kill.

@XMark12

"Win by getting rid of Frisk in any way possible for Tzeentch". He does not need to kill Frisk, he just need to incap her and i'm pretty sure that he can do it with the listed abilities.

 

[Kaltias]

>Frisk

>her

In all seriousness, all the votes for Frisk are based on pretty much ignoring the dozen of ways that Tzeench has to win. I get it, Tzeench can't pummel them into the ground reducing them to a bloody paste. He can still incapacitate them with conceptual manipulation, posses them, mindscrew them, and in the meantime Frisk can't kill Tzeench because Tzeench has Mid-Godly regen and is an actual acausal (one following the new definition, not the old one)

 

[Newendigo]

>Her

>Them

>Him

>Frisk

>Attack Helicopter.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

>Her
>Them

>Him

>Frisk

>Attack Helicopter.

>Potato

 

[Newendigo]

>No binary.

 

[Holyhotsauce]

> Frisk

> Her

> nobody cares

> Nobody Cares

> NOBODY CARES

> Bump

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Bump

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Bump.