Overlord Bonus Volume Additions (Part 2)

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Thats why Im trying to foist it off on someone else, I am garenteed to mess this up.....

 

[Moritzva]

We should also go over what Ainz matches should be removed, now that his Staff can automatically cast and he has these resistances.

 

[InfiniteSped]

I can do it now, I guess. Gonna add the spells, the staff's abilities and the resistances to everyone who has a WCI.

 

[Bonesdrowy]

No unless it could do so against someone else, if it does I suppose ainz would gain transmutation resistance. As far a I know we don't have any knowledge of the effect of ahura mazda

I thought Ahura Mazda targeted beings with negative karma, I think theres a short description in volume 3.

Another question, should we also quickly determine whether [Crack in the Ground] adds instant death effect or it causes it through the enemy falling a long distance?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Considering ainz character build and the description in the story im leaning on instant death effect. Ehh I don't think theres enough to its description to grant a resistance at the moment.

 

[FDrybob]

Ouroboros may have been used to seal off the mines, but it itself is a wish granting item, not a sealing item.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Yeah but ainz periceing the sealing effect on the world shows a resistance to sealing, and even if we don't count that we still have depiction of mountains and rivers.

 

[Bonesdrowy]

Should we also determine what tier the elementals are? Seems like that'll be relevant for future matches with the staff.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Primal Fire Elemental can do some big damage to Aura if it hits her, so I would guess 7-B

 

[TheOneBelowAll123]

I feel like Primal Fire Elemental should just get its own profile

 

[FDrybob]

The Primal Water Elemental was also able to grapple with Cure Elim Los Malvar.

 

[TheOneBelowAll123]

Then it should be 7-B as well. Wasn't there also a Wind Elemental, did it do anything?

 

[Apeironaxim]

All the Primal Elementals according to the wiki are level 87, with the Star Elemental being 90, so I would guess they would be relatively equal

 

[Bonesdrowy]

Considering ainz character build and the description in the story im leaning on instant death effect. Ehh I don't think theres enough to its description to grant a resistance at the moment.

Just went and reread the fight, Ainz specifically mentioned the instant death not activating. So its likely just instant death, this could also be used as additional evidence that Grasp Heart instant death is seperate from the organ crushing.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Just went and reread the fight, Ainz specifically mentioned the instant death not activating. So its likely just instant death, this could also be used as additional evidence that Grasp Heart instant death is seperate from the organ crushing.

Ainz's trump card, [The Goal Of All Life Is Death] strengthened the effect of instant death magic and skills. Thus augmented, those instant-death effects could bypass any immunities or resistance and kill their targets after a certain amount of time had passed.

When explaining TGOALID, it says the instant death effects will bypass immunities or resistances and kill the target. Considering it doesn't exclude Grasp Heart, that means if Ainz used GH it would have killed Shalltear. As Shalltear does not need a heart to survive, due to being undead, this means the only thing that would kill her if GH was used would be an instant death effect.

It shouldn't even be an argument anymore

sorry for bold, for some reason it wouldn't un-bold when I copy and pasted it from docs

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Anyone made the changes yet?

edit considering that we'll add a note ainz grasp heart induces instant death regardless of an opponent actually having a heart.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Who's confident with adding stuff to profiles so we can finish this?

Cause I'm sure not

 

[InfiniteSped]

Is it just the resistances and the spells/staff stuff?

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Just the resistances and spells for now we can talk over grasp hearts instant death effects in the general discussion thread.

Edit also note the 7b rating for the elementals

 

[InfiniteSped]

I can do it, i guess

 

[Apeironaxim]

Is it just the resistances and the spells/staff stuff?

Seems like it

 

[InfiniteSped]

The staff seems to be there already

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

Are its abilities listed?

 

[InfiniteSped]

yes

 

[Apeironaxim]

one less thing to do then

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

dang why havent we used that in more debates? Wait nvm we never had a good idea of how its self engagment system works.

 

[FDrybob]

The staff is not part of Ainz's standard equipment. He doesn't want to risk its destruction since it would end the guild, so he just carries a replica.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Under SBA it would be the strongest version, which would include the Staff unless specified right?

 

[FDrybob]

In the Standard Battle Assumptions page it says they have their standard equipment, and Ainz in the main timeline never used his staff except in the very beginning when he changed Albedo's flavor text and got transported. For the rest of the series so far it has been locked away in Nazarick.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

guys this is a discussion for the general discussion thread. Agreed he wouldn't usually have it on him but if its specified he has prep time or is at full power he should have the staff.

 

[InfiniteSped]

He has a ton of resistances normally, so I'm just gonna put a period at the end, then add this:

His World Class Item grants him resistance to BFR, Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Sealing, Reality Warping, Law Manipulation and Resistance Negation

 

[FDrybob]

Go ahead.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

We should have an extra tab for his resistances at this point...Lol looks fine to me

 

[InfiniteSped]

Does Pandora's Actor have one?

 

[Apeironaxim]

that's....a good question

I would guess not, because he doesn't usually go outside Nazarick, but idk

 

[InfiniteSped]

They have 11. 1 is the throne, and 2 are Twenty. That leaves 8.

Ainz, Shalltear, Albedo, Demiurge, Aura, Mare and Cocytus. Can't remember if the last went to PA or Sebas

Edit: Actually, Sebas doesn't have one, but I can't remember if it's said that PA has.

 

[The_pen_or_the_sword]

I assume so as he is often out acting as momon.

 

[TheOneBelowAll123]

Ainz only said he gave World items to the floor guardians so i dont think the last went to anyone.

 

[Apeironaxim]

Correct. I wanted the Guardians to have World-Class Items of their own. The fact is, one could probably undo Shalltear's mind control with a similar WorldClass Item, but I don't know if I should use the World-Class Items within… what a heartless master I am.

Text seems to imply it was just the Guardians

 

[Apeironaxim]

**** I was ninja'd