Overgeared Resurrection: Overgeared Discussion and Feat Compilation Thread.

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Morpheus is the game and narrative designer.

He made the game and made the NPC not players.

But when we're making this profiles we're making Grid separately from Shin Youngwoo and not like his avatar. So altough Shin Youngwoo is going against Morpheus predictions in satify is Grid going against the author of the story he's inserted into.

No, Grid and Shin are in the same profile only different keys for inside the game and out.
No, Morpheus didnt made Grid's story

 

[PrinceofPein]

Lol then i will give you an example during Civil war 2 ullysses had the ability to see the future showed Captain Marvel and a bunch of others get fate manipulation and resistance because they changed those predictions? Thats exacly what you are saying. Morpheus made predictions of what would happen he has no control over players fate as such he didnt made their fate so it wasnt changed.

He has control over the fate of things that happens inside the game, all except grid, so yes that is resistance to fate manip

So the mighty ability to cut everything cant cut everything apparently

And cant cut dragon word that is a concept

This is a feat for dragon words, like literally a feat for dragon words, seems like you are new
let me give you an example, Character A is stated to have the ability to manipulate minds, he has shown this by using mind manipulation on character B.
Now he meets character C and his mind manipulation did not work on character C.
Does this mean that he does not have mind manipulation or just that character C has some really good resistance to mind manipulation?

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

He has control over the fate of things that happens inside the game, all except grid, so yes that is resistance to fate manip

No, Morpheus has control over NPC's fate not players, he cant affect Grid's fate only the NPCs around him thats no resitance whatsoever.
Since you like using that i will give you an example.
If character A controls character B's fate does character C get fate resistance?

This is a feat for dragon words, like literally a feat for dragon words, seems like you are new
let me give you an example, Character A is stated to have the ability to manipulate minds, he has shown this by using mind manipulation on character B.
Now he meets character C and his mind manipulation did not work on character C.
Does this mean that he does not have mind manipulation or just that character C has some really good resistance to mind manipulation?

No it seems you dont understand the fact that the "cut all things" is not literal, this is the example given to debunk omnipotency. If God creates A with the ability to cut all things and A is unable to cut God then God didnt made A able to cut all things.

 

[PrinceofPein]

No, Morpheus has control over NPC's fate not players, he cant affect Grid's fate only the NPCs around him thats no resitance whatsoever.
Since you like using that i will give you an example.
If character A controls character B's fate does character C get fate resistance?

And Grid able to manipulate those people's fate means he has fate manipulation, it is passive and not active, it happens naturally with his actions, And again this is pointless, there are no pages yet, this is an argument for characters with pages
If you have so much strength put it into the blog

No it seems you dont understand the fact that the "cut all things" is not literal, this is the example given to debunk omnipotency. If God creates A with the ability to cut all things and A is unable to cut God then God didnt made A able to cut all things.

This is the dumbest shit I have seen today.
it means dragons have resistance to concept manipulation, it is an ability

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

And Grid able to manipulate those people's fate means he has fate manipulation, it is passive and not active, it happens naturally with his actions, And again this is pointless, there are no pages yet, this is an argument for characters with pages
If you have so much strength put it into the blog

No, morpheus planned things, Grid that morpheus cannot control affected those plans NPC's are acting as they were supposed to Morpheus just had to change their fate's because Grid affect them.

This is the dumbest shit I have seen today.

It's an example used even on this very wiki on the omnipotence ability page

it means dragons have resistance to concept manipulation, it is an ability

No, first if Dragons are resistant to concept manipulation how can Hayate cut the fate of someone cursed by dragon words? Second because Grid has no feat of concept manipulation.
"cut all things" is not enough of a proof Madara from NAruto also said he could cut all things doesnt mean he can cut concepts.

 

[PrinceofPein]

No, morpheus planned things, Grid that morpheus cannot control affected those plans NPC's are acting as they were supposed to Morpheus just had to change their fate's because Grid affect them.

Morpehus wrote codes, a compute programme goes according to the codes, grid changes those codes.
He is not supposed to be able to become that strong so fast, but he happened.

It's an example used even on this very wiki on the omnipotence ability page

except this is not omnipotence but a sword made to be able to cut concepts, fates, e.t.c.

No, first if Dragons are resistant to concept manipulation how can Hayate cut the fate of someone cursed by dragon words? Second because Grid has no feat of concept manipulation.
"cut all things" is not enough of a proof Madara from NAruto also said he could cut all things doesnt mean he can cut concepts.

Again we have literal statements of been able to cut all things and even concepts that is enough
Hayate been able to cut dragons, means well feat of hayate, that is why hax have layers.

My last message on this, I am tired

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Morpehus wrote codes, a compute programme goes according to the codes, grid changes those codes.
He is not supposed to be able to become that strong so fast, but he happened.

Lol no, i found a bug in a game so it means i have fate manipulation reality manipulation and a bunch of other things? No, Grid didnt change the code all of what he found was already planned Morpheus predictions only said that he would take a lot longer to find.

except this is not omnipotence but a sword made to be able to cut concepts, fates, e.t.c.

Same paradox applies.

Again we have literal statements of been able to cut all things and even concepts that is enough

Never was stated to be able to cut concepts.

Hayate been able to cut dragons, means well feat of hayate, that is why hax have layers.

He cut a dragon word not the dragon itself, but Grid who supposedly can cut concepts cant cut dragon word so the 2 things are different.

My last message on this, I am tired

 

[PrinceofPein]

He cut a dragon word not the dragon itself, but Grid who supposedly can cut concepts cant cut dragon word so the 2 things are different.

nice feat for hayate, I will add it to the blog. Thanks

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

nice feat for hayate, I will add it to the blog. Thanks

Do it doesnt matter once the verse is on the threads about its power level will start and the staff will start to erase things

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Lol no, i found a bug in a game so it means i have fate manipulation reality manipulation and a bunch of other things? No, Grid didnt change the code all of what he found was already planned Morpheus predictions only said that he would take a lot longer to find.

Same paradox applies.

Never was stated to be able to cut concepts.

He cut a dragon word not the dragon itself, but Grid who supposedly can cut concepts cant cut dragon word so the 2 things are different.

Just wanted to ask you a little question. How can one be able to cut all things if the concept of cutting does not apply? It's only a paradox if you want to overcomplicate things. This wiki actually does have leniency for authors because they aren't thinking of every single little thing.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Just wanted to ask you a little question. How can one be able to cut all things if the concept of cutting does not apply? It's only a paradox if you want to overcomplicate things. This wiki actually does have leniency for authors because they aren't thinking of every single little thing.

Cutting concepts or fate is all non physical interaction they arent actually cutting things is destroying concepts, if i cut a piece of wood im not cutting the concept of wood im just cutting that piece. Fate or concepts are not physical they are abstract there is no concept of cutting an abstract thing.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

What concept types do you guys think that the gods of the beginning should fall under? I'm thinking type 2 as of now.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Just ignore @Suigetsuhyugs for now. He doesn't even understand what you guys mean.

What concept types do you guys think that the gods of the beginning should fall under? I'm thinking type 2 as of now.

Type 1 or 2 should be suitable.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

What kind of abilities will these stats provide?

[Composure]
The probability of being affected by an abnormal state is lowered. If affected by an abnormal condition, you will recover quickly.

• The higher the number, the higher the effect.
• Stat points can’t be distributed to this stat.

[Indomitable]

Has a certain probability of invalidating a portion of the incoming damage. The lower the health, the higher the probability.

• The higher the number, the higher the effect.
• Stat points can’t be distributed to this stat.

[Dignity]

Can’t be pushed down by others. There is a rare chance of making the enemy submit to you.

• The higher the number, the higher the effect.
• Stat points can’t be distributed to this stat.

[Insight]

Discover the target. Predict risks.

• The higher the number, the higher the probability.
• Stat points can’t be distributed to this stat.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

What concept types do you guys think that the gods of the beginning should fall under? I'm thinking type 2 as of now.

Perfect it seems you guys really know what you are doing. (sarcams)
What about at least read what it is about?
You know what this is about? This would be something like if someone cut ones fate then he is altering the fate of everyone. If Grid cuts concepts then he is directly affecting morpheus if you go by this ideia of concept manipulation

 

[PrinceofPein]

What concept types do you guys think that the gods of the beginning should fall under? I'm thinking type 2 as of now.

well they are responsible for all of reality and they shape it, and they are also not under it and they are not affected by its destruction, that is pretty type 1 to me. The world tree may also qualify, but I will read OG from the start again first

What kind of abilities will these stats provide?

[Composure]
The probability of being affected by an abnormal state is lowered. If affected by an abnormal condition, you will recover quickly.

• The higher the number, the higher the effect.
• Stat points can’t be distributed to this stat.

resistance to Status effect inducement

[Indomitable]

Has a certain probability of invalidating a portion of the incoming damage. The lower the health, the higher the probability.

• The higher the number, the higher the effect.
• Stat points can’t be distributed to this stat.

damage reduction

[Dignity]

Can’t be pushed down by others. There is a rare chance of making the enemy submit to you.

• The higher the number, the higher the effect.
• Stat points can’t be distributed to this stat.

extraordinary will power

[Insight]

Discover the target. Predict risks.

• The higher the number, the higher the probability.
• Stat points can’t be distributed to this stat.

extrasensory perception

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

well they are responsible for all of reality and they shape it, and they are also not under it and they are not affected by its destruction, that is pretty type 1 to me

None of the gods shape reality none of them even has control over all reality otherwise they wouldnt lose and die.

resistance to biological hax

No thats resistance to status effect inducement

 

[PrinceofPein]

No thats resistance to status effect inducement

Right, I edited my post accordingly

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

From what I can tell is. Divinity is a god's underlying concept with many concepts being able to define a god's divinity. Gods who are dependent on the worship of humanity would be type 2. Gods of the beginning and those who are not reliant on humanity and their worship (i.e. Pluto) would be type 1.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Player physiology:

• Regeneration (Low-Mid; A player can regenerate their lost body parts quickly, but their HP doesn't regenerate as fast as their physical bodies regeneration)
• Immortality (type 4 and 8 maybe 9, possibly 1 and 2 for higher level player; a player can revive indefinitely and the revival system are depended on the games system, their true bodies exist beyond satisfy space-time. can survive and regenerate from fatal wound for higher level player)
• Projection (their body are just games avatar)
• Accelerated Development (via Exp and Level Up)
• Adaptation (Resistance; A player can gain resistance to a certain element or ailment the more they exposed to it)

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Player physiology:

• Regeneration (High-Low; A player can regenerate their lost body parts quickly, but their HP doesn't regenerate as fast as their physical bodies regeneration)

You mean at least low- mid not high-low

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Player physiology:

• Regeneration (High-Low; A player can regenerate their lost body parts quickly, but their HP doesn't regenerate as fast as their physical bodies regeneration)
• Immortality (type 4 and 8 maybe 9, possibly 1 and 2 for higher level player; a player can revive indefinitely and the revival system are depended on the games system, their true bodies exist beyond satisfy space-time. can survive and regenerate from fatal wound for higher level player)
• Projection (their body are just games avatar)
• Accelerated Development (via Exp and Level Up)
• Adaptation (Resistance; A player can gain resistance to a certain element or ailment the more they exposed to it)

I would say limited type 4 due to the 12 hour cooldown if the player dies 2 times within 24 hours. Unless that doesn't qualify for limited and is just a weakness of it

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I would say limited type 4 due to the 12 hour cooldown if the player dies 2 times within 24 hours. Unless that doesn't qualify for limited and is just a weakness of it

If you gonna say that then limited everything the game doesnt allow players to be connected more than a certain amount of time a day.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

You mean at least low- mid not high-low

Shit

I would say limited type 4 due to the 12 hour cooldown if the player dies 2 times within 24 hours. Unless that doesn't qualify for limited and is just a weakness of it

That more of a weaknesses

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

If you gonna say that then limited everything the game doesnt allow players to be connected more than a certain amount of time a day.

lol

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Shit

What you said is a downgrade, they can survive even if their body is bissected and even brain injury but we dont know if they can survive if they have no head since that could mean have no hp so dead.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

If you gonna say that then limited everything the game doesnt allow players to be connected more than a certain amount of time a day.

Remember that mongolian boy?
My dude playing the games for three days straight.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

What you said is a downgrade, they can survive even if their body is bissected and even brain injury but we dont know if they can survive if they have no head since that could mean have no hp so dead.

They can survive with no head as they regenerate quickly, at least for high level player.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

They can survive with no head as they regenerate quickly, at least for high level player.

Dont remember any time they had their head completely vaporized or decapitation, maybe legends because of the legends dont die easily but overall players dont think so

 

[PrinceofPein]

Do you think we need a player's physiology page?
I mean I can see gods physiology page
Legends physiology page
Demons physiology page too
Absolute and Transcendents too
All of them can be inside a single physiology page, with each having their own section

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Remember that mongolian boy?
My dude playing the games for three days straight.

Yes but that only worked under very specific circuntances and he could have actually died with mental illness

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Dont remember any time they had their head completely vaporized or decapitation, maybe legends because of the legends dont die easily but overall players dont think so

Grid actually have lost his head before.

Do you think we need a player's physiology page?
I mean I can see gods physiology page
Legends physiology page
Demons physiology page too
Absolute and Transcendents too
All of them can be inside a single physiology page, with each having their own section

They can and player are a must because some of the cast are player, it is too much hassle to include something like immortality and many more repeatedly.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Do you think we need a player's physiology page?
I mean I can see gods physiology page
Legends physiology page
Demons physiology page too
Absolute and Transcendents too
All of them can be inside a single physiology page, with each having their own section

Sure if well made will clean the pages and make it better

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Grid actually have lost his head before.

He is a legend we dont even actually know what happens because if he were to take an attack enough to vaporize his whole body the damage would just let him with 1 hp but the body intact.

But regarding other players we know that because of the absormal conditions resistance even if he lost a limb he wont have bleeding and other conditions that normal players do.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

They can and player are a must because some of the cast are player, it is too much hassle to include something like immortality and many more repeatedly.

Thats not even the problem immortality is just one ability the problem is having a bunch of abilities like acelerated development immortality regeneration resurection energy manipulation super speed super strengh and the list goes on

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Would be cool if an Overgeared character have a key that allows them to fight Kirito. Battle for VR world supremacy.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Would be cool if an Overgeared character have a key that allows them to fight Kirito. Battle for VR world supremacy.

What do you mean? Kirito's profile is way to weak to fight most satisfy players, all the top tiers are at least planet the mid tiers are at least mountain

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

What do you mean? Kirito's profile is way to weak to fight most satisfy players, all the top tiers are at least planet the mid tiers are at least mountain

I'm talking about low tiers.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I'm talking about low tiers.

Low tiers are basically background characters that barely even have their powers revealed.
But i think if we were to have a key for Kraugel early game it would be a good fight against kirito both known for their swordsmanship and both "lone wolves".

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Low tiers are basically background characters that barely even have their powers revealed.
But i think if we were to have a key for Kraugel early game it would be a good fight against kirito both known for their swordsmanship and both "lone wolves".

Perhaps maybe even IRL Grid vs IRL Kirito?