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Dont know about that Kirito has a much higher trainning level in real life
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Overgeared Resurrection: Overgeared Discussion and Feat Compilation Thread.
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Grid's ingame experience correlates to his IRL experience but I guess depends on how it is portrayed compared to Kirito.
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also possession resistance, like when Braham tried to take over Grid's body but the system protected him, also is it madness manipulation resistance when the System prevented Grid from going mad and was going to seal the source (madra book)?
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No idea haven't read it much. I'd just stick to novel though.
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hmmn, well I can check that out, never really bothered really bothered reading the manhwa
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Thanks in advance
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I read it and yes so far although it does skip a lot of things often, but what it shows is consistent with the novel
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Why you didn't tell me beforehand bruh
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How powerful and what abilities do you guys think this stuff falls under?
The "Unconditionally move faster compared to targets with a lower hierarchy than you." is very interesting as well.
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law manipulation and stats amplification
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also he has possibly infinite stamina based on this, but I think there are some antifeats
The move faster stuff is as setsuna says it, now for verse equalization we need to find a way to determine who has lower hierarchy in comparison to other verses
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Hierarchy should account for stuff like conceptual beings and those with a close equivalent of divine power like dragon ball gods.
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Just did VIP in wuxia, time to start reading from the beginning before it expires lol
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Isn't this just Wolfgang assiah in Dies Irae bruh?
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Hmmmn a match between them would be a stomp it would have been nice.
Also Wolfgang is a bit different, Wolfgang is faster than anything in creation regardless of who or hierarchy
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Dont know how that hierarchy would work because Specter wasnt a chief god nor a god but was faster than Grid. This is about being absolute which does not have any kind of equivalency in any verse even Dragon Ball or Marvel/DC or in other cases for example Whitebeard from One Piece was said to have absolute attack power or something like that would that be enough?
"Conceptual beings"? Not even in Overgeared those exist, even if you can apply the conceptual manipulation that doesnt make them conceptual, abstract existence type 2 is not enough to be called "conceptual beings".
"Conceptual beings"? Not even in Overgeared those exist, even if you can apply the conceptual manipulation that doesnt make them conceptual, abstract existence type 2 is not enough to be called "conceptual beings".
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Specter is a higher level and higher hierarchy being than Grid at the fight.
This is a false equivalence.
What a joke.
Who said that Overgeared CM are based on AE 2? Hell, even AE 2 are qualified for CM 3.
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There is no higher hierarchy than Chief god thats the rank that Rebbeca has herself unless you count for Morpheus but thats an whole other deal.
No, its me telling you that there is no way to have an equivalency.
No one, conceptual being is a being that is a concept himself which is AE type 1 which wasnt even a question here.
CM 3 is basically the lowest level of conceptual manipulation i dont know where you getting from this
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Do you want to contradict this?
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It was literally stated that a true god is not life but a concept
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Also an "Absolute" is a status which fits into hierarchy. Hierarchy isn't just about gods but ones status as an absolute or transcendent.
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You know how there are moments where Grid's existence is more defined or established. That is literally what counts for hierarchy.
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but apparently this extremely obvious scan doesn't mean shit for CM and AE
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So do you wanna argue if any of that still fit in the definition of concept in this wiki?
That means If anytime a god is killed there is a concept that disappears, for example Yatan is dead meaning that their universe doesnt have darkness or destruction. And btw the novel also states that there cant be 2 gods with the same concept.
And how is that a kind of hierarchy that can be applied to other universes? Dont you understand? Absolute is not the same as a god the same way there is no actual hierarchy for marvel mutants with alpha beta omega and so on.
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She is an absolute, that is the hierarchy, now stop sayingg your usual stuffs since all you do is stonewall
they are not mutually exclusive, that is baal about being unable to die unless fear is eradicated, and this is another statement entirely about nature of gods
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Overgeared is turning into something else here, there are some really crazy hax, I think the prison of eternity was built by rebecca?
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Still a concept, type 3 at worst. Still qualifies for AE.
Huh?? When did Yatan die??? When was it stated that there cant be 2 gods with same area of influence??
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There are literally gods with overlapping authority such as Yatan and Black tortoise. White Tiger and Garion etc. So you're just pulling stuff out of your ass rn.
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This is turning into a concept hax battle lol.
Ignore him bruh
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No
This is a requirment for all kinds of conceptual manipulation. So overgeared doesnt classify for none of them not even type 3.
He wasnt alive to because his concept was sealed that means he his concept was dead.
Gods can have multiple concepts but they dont represent all of them like Grid he is the concept of overgeared but he also has the concept of blacksmithing in him.
Basically they can manipulate multiple concepts but 2 gods cannot embodie the same concept
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3. Lesser Fundamental Concepts: Concepts that don't meet the same standards as Type 1 or Type 2, such as personal concepts that continue to govern the object in question, merely on a more specific scale, or concepts whose nature is not elaborated upon. Case-by-case specifications and explanations are necessary for such concepts and examples, and they are likely not going to meet the same standards for abilities such as High-Godly regeneration that other concepts may. Conceptual manipulation of this type can be resisted by those who resist sufficiently similar abilities, even if the exact mechanics may differ.
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Dafuq? This type ******* 1 and 2.
Read before you quote the ******* page.
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Its for all of them this is what the ability requires to even be considered in the types
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You ignore the context of the type itself you idiot.
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I'm just gonna step away from arguing because I can't handle the ignorance and stress. I'll continue to discuss and post what I find interesting.
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I dont think you understand what the types are about lesser fundamental concepts could apply because they can embodie even the concept of wood which is not fundamental but you still need to affect all wood in that reality
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If you cut the concept of wood all wood in that reality will be affected
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