Overgeared Resurrection: Overgeared Discussion and Feat Compilation Thread.

[Rakih_Elyan]

I dont think you understand what the types are about lesser fundamental concepts could apply because they can embodie even the concept of wood which is not fundamental but you still need to affect all wood in that reality

If you cut the concept of wood all wood in that reality will be affected

I dare you.
Said this to any staff and they will laugh their ass off.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

If you cut the concept of wood all wood in that reality will be affected

i know im gonna break what i said just a bit ago but this is literally a type 2 concept lol

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Do you want another example? Human gods that embodies concept that already existed and we're killed by specter and nothing happened

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I dare you.
Said this to any staff and they will laugh their ass off.

It's the exact same as it stated on the wiki just with another words.

Each concept is linked with its respective "object". In this way, altering the concept will change every object linked to it in the same way the concept itself was changed.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

When sandman in the series was caged no one in the world was able to dream that's exactly what should happen if the person who embodies a concept is changed

 

[PrinceofPein]

we're killed by specter and nothing happened

They were ursuroed by her, as in swallowed
Also, cutting the concept of wood does not mean wood will stop existing, it depends on the type of CM you have to begin with

That aside, @Rakih_Elyan @BestMGQScalerEver it is best to ignore him and not let him provoke you, he stonewalls everywhere, not just in this thread
This is not relevant yet, let us gather scans for now
I have enough to get CM type 1 for Gods of the beginning, I will add it to the blog, I can get CM type 3 for other gods and the vague ones can be type 3.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Should Kraugel and Muller have a form of passive space-time manipulation since their fight was destroying dimensional gaps as a consequence of it?

 

[PrinceofPein]

Should Kraugel and Muller have a form of passive space-time manipulation since their fight was destroying dimensional gaps as a consequence of it?

They would have it normally due to other feats of cutting space and time and the likes.
But yeah passively too.

Also his sensitivity is some sort of time manip iirc

 

[CaoticRap]

Its for all of them this is what the ability requires to even be considered in the types

does this count for anything?

The power of King Sobyeol was change. It was a change that didn’t stop at changing the nature of some ‘energies.’ It was about intervening in most concepts of the world.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

does this count for anything?

It could. Hanul represents balance of yin and yang (light and dark) and it contextually makes sense for his underling Sobyeol to have authority over the literal concept of change which falls under balance.

 

[CaoticRap]

We also need a page for Pluto or Exile

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

does this count for anything?

Yes thats actually what i mean although it seems to have affected more than just his own concept.
Although that could work for King Sobyeol it seems not to work for others.

 

[CaoticRap]

Yes thats actually what i mean although it seems to have affected more than just his own concept.
Although that could work for King Sobyeol it seems not to work for others.

I'll try and search for more

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I'll try and search for more

I think there was one time where everybody lost their knowledge and become unable to use marcial arts because of zeratul, thats a good one too, but even if that proves concept manipulation it doesnt prove they are the concepts because those events happened because they changed the concepts by their own not because they were hurt by someone.

 

[CaoticRap]

Are you talking about how npc's lost the knowledge to use tools thanks to Judar? And if that is CM and players were not affected does that mean they have resistance to CM?

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Are you talking about how npc's lost the knowledge to use tools thanks to Judar? And if that is CM and players were not affected does that mean they have resistance to CM?

It means they are outside of the authority of the gods because they arent actually from that "plain of existance"

 

[CaoticRap]

It means they are outside of the authority of the gods because they arent actually from that "plain of existance"

lorewise they are creations of the gods

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

lorewise they are creations of the gods

As far as i remember they were though to be blesses by the gods or something right? Anyways i dont think we can actually use that them being somehow "related to the gods" is a game explaination for them being there its basically what morpheus said to the NPC to not have problems such as NPC distrusting them because they are not part of their world.

 

[CaoticRap]

I mean such mechanics already exist in games like The gravekeeper, souls borne games and are part of in game lore. I think we should take this the same way

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I mean such mechanics already exist in games like The gravekeeper, souls borne games and are part of in game lore. I think we should take this the same way

But then you would have to ignore the fact that a real human is controlling the player which will null their AE and immortality for being in aplin of existance where death cant get to. We cant ignore that those are basically avatars of the player

 

[CaoticRap]

But then you would have to ignore the fact that a real human is controlling the player which will null their AE and immortality for being in aplin of existance where death cant get to. We cant ignore that those are basically avatars of the player

I don't think so

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

I've gotten some more consistent AE 1 stuff.

"It isn't a history of the current world, so it is right that you haven't heard of it. The Refractive Dragon... it doesn't matter if it exists or not. It is a concept, not a creature. A concept so inefficient that all human beings in the world have to worship it to make it have substance. You will never see it."
The Refractive Dragon was a deified being in the form of a dragon. A dragon god born with the immunity of the Gods of the Beginning from the humans of a near-apocalyptic world, who learned that the Gods of the Beginning would soon destroy humanity.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Yeah, that was also to support gods can be concepts, the refractive dragon is an example.

 

[CaoticRap]

"I'm looking forward to it. But Sir Hayate doesn' need a sword and armor." Biban said. Hayate's weapon, Dragon killing Sword was an entity and a concept.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

I meant feats where a concept affected everything like when King affected all the energies and affecting the concepts of the world not just the powers of a single entity.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Dragon killing sword is made from his dragon killer energy I think, rereading OG again, I am currently in chapter 10, just have 200 times of that left to go.
I do not think I can finish it before my Wuxia subscription finishes

 

[CaoticRap]

Thankfully, there's the power of Sobyeol. Braham's mind understands and destroys/absorbs a concept while Sobyeol's divinity...

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Dragon killing sword is made from his dragon killer energy I think, rereading OG again, I am currently in chapter 10, just have 200 times of that left to go.
I do not think I can finish it before my Wuxia subscription finishes

Aim for 100 chapters a day!

 

[PrinceofPein]

Aim for 100 chapters a day!

it is not as easy as it sounds

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

There are almost 1800 chapters with about 3 to 4 chapters a week for people with no rank, 10 a day means you would take 180 days to read 1800 but 180/7=26 weeks that gives 78 extra chapters to read until the end so actually it would take you 8 extra days that means it will take 27 weeks and 1 day to reach the last chapter available thats about half a year.

100 chapters a day it would take 18 days +1 more day to read the lasst few

 

[CaoticRap]

Btw, even if we don't have Rebecca and Yatan at universal level they should be at least Multi-Solar System because Asgard has dozens of constellations, right?

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Btw, even if we don't have Rebecca and Yatan at universal level they should be at least Multi-Solar System because Asgard has dozens of constellations, right?

I could accept that but this wiki doesnt even acknowledge Kaguya's dimensions as multi solar despite having multiple stars on them, you might need prove that those stars actually exist and not just part of the background

 

[PrinceofPein]

Btw, even if we don't have Rebecca and Yatan at universal level they should be at least Multi-Solar System because Asgard has dozens of constellations, right?

there are like tens of statements that says rebecca recreated the world over and over again, that would not involve the world of gods like asgard or hwan or hell. Just the humna world and then recently we have statement that she recreated the universe, which would mean all those statements saying she recreated the world meant universe, which would be enough for tier 2 or 3A
Also the constellation feat was a zeratul feat, but I plan to revisit it soon

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

there are like tens of statements that says rebecca recreated the world over and over again, that would not involve the world of gods like asgard or hwan or hell. Just the humna world and then recently we have statement that she recreated the universe, which would mean all those statements saying she recreated the world meant universe, which would be enough for tier 2 or 3A
Also the constellation feat was a zeratul feat, but I plan to revisit it soon

We should also get an official calc for any planetary or continent busting feats in the verse. 2 continents as big as earth. Someone I know did a calc and got 54x bigger than Earth but we need something from a calc member.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

there are like tens of statements that says rebecca recreated the world over and over again, that would not involve the world of gods like asgard or hwan or hell. Just the humna world and then recently we have statement that she recreated the universe, which would mean all those statements saying she recreated the world meant universe, which would be enough for tier 2 or 3A
Also the constellation feat was a zeratul feat, but I plan to revisit it soon

Actually you need to prove is not just the translation this wiki know that some words can be similar and the translation can be lost in the way, they might have translated the same kanji to world and or universe because they are very similar, considering that universe was a translation that didnt happened before.

 

[CaoticRap]

I could accept that but this wiki doesnt even acknowledge Kaguya's dimensions as multi solar despite having multiple stars on them, you might need prove that those stars actually exist and not just part of the background

the storm version does https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...e_you/Kaguya_Ōtsutsuki_(Ultimate_Ninja_Storm)

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

We should also get an official calc for any planetary or continent busting feats in the verse. 2 continents as big as earth. Someone I know did a calc and got 54x bigger than Earth but we need something from a calc member.

Problem there is "as big as earth" meaning as big as the volume of earth or as big as the surface area? Also that calc has no assume a lot of things like size of oceans and at least one island that is under water

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Actually you need to prove is not just the translation this wiki know that some words can be similar and the translation can be lost in the way, they might have translated the same kanji to world and or universe because they are very similar, considering that universe was a translation that didnt happened before.

Honestly, I kinda agree with this.

I could accept that but this wiki doesnt even acknowledge Kaguya's dimensions as multi solar despite having multiple stars on them, you might need prove that those stars actually exist and not just part of the background

For this we have the constellation god who was able to move stars and create constellations by doing so.

 

[CaoticRap]

We should also get an official calc for any planetary or continent busting feats in the verse. 2 continents as big as earth. Someone I know did a calc and got 54x bigger than Earth but we need something from a calc member.

there's the bunhelier wing flap destruction feat. If someone could calculate the energy required to make an air mass destroy one of the continents would be great.

 

[CaoticRap]

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