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Wait, how though?MB surviving the Great March qualifies for 6-C I guess.
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Wait, how though?MB surviving the Great March qualifies for 6-C I guess.
How wouldn't this qualify for 6-C?Wait, how though?
Because Sage is a 6-A.How wouldn't this qualify for 6-C?
Sage's total body movement is 6-A. But not every attack its throwing is 6-A. MB and Garou survive far to many of them before any amps to imply that.Because Sage is a 6-A.
Sage gets 6-A from his whole body withstanding the 6666 Grand Drill movement he performed. Not anything related to the march.SC doesn't need to have 6-A durability to withstand the KE of the march. If it can plow through anything without resistance then the recoil would never effect it.
But he doesn't really need to withstand his KE. It would just be spread out through everything. SC can be 6-C or whatever while being 6-A with the march.Sage gets 6-A from his whole body withstanding the 6666 Grand Drill movement he performed.
That's true but it calls into question other scaling issues.But he doesn't really need to withstand his KE. It would just be spread out through everything. SC can be 6-C or whatever while being 6-A with the march.
Garou should be still 6-A for stopping Sage's Grand Drill completely on its tracks, Metal Bat should be 6-C for slightly shattering Sage's exoskeleton.What are Garou and Bat's ratings for damaging Sage while he's performing the attack?
Both Bat and Garou are implied to have stopped Sage's Grand Drill. Otherwise, I'm sure there would've been a scan showing Bat being unable to damage Sage like earlier and Bat would've been thrown out on his first contact with Sage spinning like that.Sage Centipede's AP: 6-C (Can easily lift Tatsumaki's mountain spear with only a small portion of its body), 6-A with 6666 Leg Grand Drill (Able to generate this massive amount of energy by using all its 6666 legs and spinning the entirety of its body)
Garou should be still 6-A for stopping Sage's Grand Drill completely on its tracks, Metal Bat should be 6-C for slightly shattering Sage's exoskeleton.
I highly doubt that was the case when Garou and Metal Bat working together were able to cause this massive amount of damage to Sage's body, while Metal Bat by himself was only able to slightly crack Sage's armor.Both Bat and Garou are implied to have stopped Sage's Grand Drill.
Sage's body was in pretty bad shape after the Grand Drill was stopped, he didn't withstood the attack, he just regenerated from the damage.Btw, how does the energy transfer throughout Sage's body when he abruptly slows down/stops spinning at those speeds that would generate that 6-A energy?
What is this downplay? With one swing, Metal bat was able to break a sizable portion of SC.while Metal Bat by himself was only able to slightly crack Sage's armor.
Garou and Metal Bat working together were able to cause this massive amount of damage to Sage's body
"Sizable" when the crack is not even bigger than Metal Bat, and Sage's body is kilometers wide.What is this downplay? With one swing, Metal bat was able to break a sizable portion of SC.
Garou was able to break through Sage's body with a single punch, far more damage that Metal Bat was able to inflict by himself even with Resonance.The "massive amounts of damage" that the two of them caused is something that you should expect from tens, if not hundreds of attacks of at least this level.
Yes, they both worked together and achieved that result via using numerous amounts of attacks all over SC. Bat is in the realm of comparable power to Garou with Garou having the true overall edge. If Metal Bat was only 6-C he should've been decimated by Sage Centipede and SC wouldn't have wondered how Metal Bat and Garou's team attack worked so well.I highly doubt that was the case when Garou and Metal Bat working together were able to cause this massive amount of damage to Sage's body, while Metal Bat by himself was only able to slightly crack Sage's armor.
That's a separate instance. After that happen, Garou had trouble destroying SC's tentacles that grabbed the helicopter then Metal Bat came in and easily cut the tentacles thanks to Fighting Spirit.In chapter 157 it was also implied both Garou and Metal Bat pushed Sage together, but then it was confirmed that Metal Bat couldn't even scratch Sage's body at that point.
Garou used Awakening Breath on top of RE, Fighting Spirit, and Resonance so I can see why Garou's power would far outclass MB just using Fighting Spirit and Resonance.Also, the narrator itself stated "despite the vast difference in their raw power, the nature of that power was extremely similar", further confirming that Garou is the one who did most of the work stopping the Grand Drill.
This just made me realize that MB would have to have 6-A durability with Resonance and Fighting Spirit as well to withstand his own attacks wouldn't he? Then how could Sage knock him out with just a punch right after?As far as I remember, Therefir agreed to use Sage's PE, which would give a "Low 6-B" level that we can scale Bat and Garou to.
As for the 6666 GLD, if Bat and Garou did not have 6-A, then they would simply be swept aside and smeared from contact with Sage.
So I suggest for Bat "At least Low 7-B, up to Low 6-B with Fighting Spirit, up to 6-A with Resonance and Fighting Spirit"
Either it's PiS or him AP above durabilityThis just made me realize that MB would have to have 6-A durability with Resonance and Fighting Spirit as well to withstand his own attacks wouldn't he? Then how could Sage knock him out with just a punch right after?
Why?could be "5C with serious punches"
I mean it would just be 5-C with just the feat as context, it’s not like serious mode is and actual form with its given attackscould be "5C with serious punches"
That's fine imo.I don't think we should go with far higher since it's not stated that this punch is comparable to the attack he used against Boros.
How about 5-C, likely higher?
ElaborateSaitama should be just 5B and end it there
That’s fine.I don't think we should go with far higher since it's not stated that this punch is comparable to the attack he used against Boros.
How about 5-C, likely higher?
The reason Saitama has far higher isn't just because he no-selled CSRC. It's because he did it effortlessly.I don't think we should go with far higher since it's not stated that this punch is comparable to the attack he used against Boros.
How about 5-C, likely higher?
likely far higher (Saitama is likely far stronger than this depiction of his current feats, since he has ended every battle thus far effortlessly)
Done the edits
The reason Saitama has far higher isn't just because he no-selled CSRC. It's because he did it effortlessly.
He did his 5-C feat in the same fashion (if not even more casual), than the one he did against Boros.
According to what? All his feats are easy to some extent.He did his 5-C feat in the same fashion (if not even more casual), than the one he did against Boros.
Did we read the same manga? Saitama was obviously extremely casual, which is why we give him "likely far higher".According to what? All his feats are easy to some extent.
his likely far higher isn't tied to Boros. It's tied to the fact he was casual, and didn't try. It's the same here. Saitama was casual and didn't try. There's no reason the rating should change.I didn't say he wasn't ultra casual. I said we have absolutely no evidence that it's inferior to what Boros did.
By 2 people?The changes were already made and agreed upon. If you want to change it again, make a separate CRT.