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I think that's it
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low 6-b, high 6-b for eow, low 6-b, 6-a for sc, (atleast) low 6-b for mb...
i think.
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Sage and EOW’s stuff was already applied.
For Bad, it’s “up to Low 6-B with Fighting Spirit, 6-A with Resonance”
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Sage made Metal Bat bleed, so does his durability increase via resonance?
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I don’t think so, I think the consensus was to leave his durability at Low 6-B.
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Now that I think about it, I don’t think we ever came to a consensus on Bad’s speed.
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Well it should be FTL, Garou and MB froze SC while traveling a far distance.
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Bad's speed should scale to "Hypersonic, up to At least Massively Hypersonic (intercepts Sage Centipede attack), likely FTL combat speed and reaction (surprised Garou with his speed and could react to his attacks) | At least FTL with Resonance (goes toe-to-toe with Garou)"
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Seems fine
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I’ve re-read the fight twice now and this never happens.
Fighting Spirit Bad should only have FTL reactions.
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when garou was trapped and he came swooping in with the "spiral of overwhelming victory" is what i would assume
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No, when Sage attacked the helicopter with his tendril, Bat got ahead of Garou and he looked surprised at that moment. Follow the facial expressions.
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oh ok ok
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Can you post the scan?
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Bad only starts moving after Garou has already looked at him.
Also, literally four pages before, Garou casually dodges Bad and sees him as little more than an annoyance, so scaling him to Garou’s speed seems faulty.
Also, literally four pages before, Garou casually dodges Bad and sees him as little more than an annoyance, so scaling him to Garou’s speed seems faulty.
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Yeah, Metal Bat is definitely not scaling to Garou there.
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He's already ahead of him at this point. And Garou looks at him in surprise.
Bat is already moving at the moment of his cry. Or are you saying that Garou was surprised that Bad could scream?
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He downgrades in speed and reaction with morale and scales fully during resonance
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I’m saying there’s nothing that implies Garou is surprised by Bad’s speed, especially when Garou effortlessly dodged him four pages prior.
Even with your interpretation, Bad would have a “likely higher” at best, he’s not getting FTL combat speed on the basis of “well Garou widened his eyes at him”.
Actually, even if we used your interpretation, it’d be FTL movement speed, not combat speed, so your proposal is inaccurate either way.
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Cool, doesn’t change that
A. We’re not scaling Bad to Garou on the basis of Garou making a face
B. It’s not even combat speed, it’s movement speed
A. We’re not scaling Bad to Garou on the basis of Garou making a face
B. It’s not even combat speed, it’s movement speed
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In this case, Bat has "infinite" speed, since the growth of his strength tends to infinity.
He will be the third fastest character, after Tatsumaki, who changes the laws of the universe and is omnipresent, and Saitama, who has immeasurable speed as he is the strongest and best.
He will be the third fastest character, after Tatsumaki, who changes the laws of the universe and is omnipresent, and Saitama, who has immeasurable speed as he is the strongest and best.
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Agreed.
Fighting Spirit Bad should be ‘up to Massively Hypersonic combat speed (Blocked an attack from Sage Centipede) with FTL reactions (Reacted to Garou’s kick). At least FTL with Resonance (Could keep up with Garou to perform combo attacks with him)
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Also for some extra clean-up:
also the first scan is literally after they destroyed his carapace, like seriously, who approved that
And Bad needs to have “Small Country level+ with bat (Withstood a strike from Sage Centipede)” in his durability section.
This should be removed from Sage Centipede’s durability justification since Garou and Bad get their scaling from him
And Bad needs to have “Small Country level+ with bat (Withstood a strike from Sage Centipede)” in his durability section.
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Dude we literally don't have anything that says Metal Knight made it.
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I removed the SC thing. Wouldn't Metal Bat need to have 6-A durability for his bat not to get broken by overpowering Sage's 6666 Leg Grand Drill?
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Yea.
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Oh yeah, that’s true.
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I think Trader's proposal is good.
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