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Should be a simple thread given the fact that neither character will be receiving a change in stats or abilities. Rather this thread will aim to bump the intelligence of the two most renowned swordsmen, shout-out to @UchihaSlayer96 and @Eminiteable for the helping either providing the information or reviewing the rough draft.
Refining and adjusting the duo's intelligence sections.
Now let's get into the main subject here, both Zoro and Mihawk or at the very least Mihawk should receive upgrades to their intelligence sections to combat extraordinary genius and I'll list why here. As we know from this thread, the qualifications for extraordinary genius require the wild creation of machines depending on the character's field of expertise, and in this case in would be combat intelligence. More specifically in the form of swordsmanship.
Below I'll list of all the reasons as to why I believe they'd qualify for such a rating.
Refining and adjusting the duo's intelligence sections.
Now let's get into the main subject here, both Zoro and Mihawk or at the very least Mihawk should receive upgrades to their intelligence sections to combat extraordinary genius and I'll list why here. As we know from this thread, the qualifications for extraordinary genius require the wild creation of machines depending on the character's field of expertise, and in this case in would be combat intelligence. More specifically in the form of swordsmanship.
Below I'll list of all the reasons as to why I believe they'd qualify for such a rating.
This should be the easiest part of the thread, as we all know Mihawk is the strongest and most skilled swordman in One Piece in both name and actuality. This is stated multiple times in both the manga and various databooks, further backed up by the fact that he was capable of skill stomping East Blue Zoro with nothing but fancy footwork and a small dagger and then later training Zoro himself.
Mihawk is stated to be a master of the two prominent Zenith's of Swordsmanship, Goken and Joken (Hard and soft style Swordsmanship.) which I'll explain below, also being stated to be an extraordinary master swordman, whereas Zoro's only described as a Master swordsman, anything Zoro is capable of Mihawk is capable of overcoming and matching in swordsmanship. Mihawk is also stated to be able to see someone's true potential, power and talent as a swordsman passively.
Mihawk is stated to be a master of the two prominent Zenith's of Swordsmanship, Goken and Joken (Hard and soft style Swordsmanship.) which I'll explain below, also being stated to be an extraordinary master swordman, whereas Zoro's only described as a Master swordsman, anything Zoro is capable of Mihawk is capable of overcoming and matching in swordsmanship. Mihawk is also stated to be able to see someone's true potential, power and talent as a swordsman passively.
In One Piece only the strongest of swordsman are able to achieve what is considered to be the very zenith of swordsman, Goken. In short, Goken is the state that only the most experienced swordsman can reach allowing them to make their blade bend to their will, allowing them to cut whatever they wish and to not cut whatever they wish to protect. This level of swordsman adds in the following abilities, the ability to sense the "breath." of all things (even working on inanimate objects.) and by doing such this allows swordsmen in One Piece to calculate the trajectory of oncoming attacks before they happen. This level of experience even allows the user to be able to calculate the trajectory of attacks while being effected by severe blood loss, causing extreme loss of coordination, organ failure, and the temporary loss of sight and hearing, while on death's door and still fight with optimal efficiency.
This Analytical Prediction even works against other users of Goken such as T-Bone who's attacks such as Bird of Prey is capable of changing it's trajectory, with a Pre Time Skip Zoro out predicting him. More abilities that Goken includes is Information Analysis that allows for durability negation based on analyzing and grasping the breathing, power, timing, vital points and angle to cut at allowing them to cut virtually anything (within reason.)
Here's also a better explanation which is the following. Here's the website statement for breath stuff tho:
This Analytical Prediction even works against other users of Goken such as T-Bone who's attacks such as Bird of Prey is capable of changing it's trajectory, with a Pre Time Skip Zoro out predicting him. More abilities that Goken includes is Information Analysis that allows for durability negation based on analyzing and grasping the breathing, power, timing, vital points and angle to cut at allowing them to cut virtually anything (within reason.)
Here's also a better explanation which is the following. Here's the website statement for breath stuff tho:
For starters Zoro's natural information is honestly slept on but the profile doesn't quite reflect that. For starters it's stated that Zoro is easily capable of creating highly effective counter measures and analyzing his opponents various times. By doing so this has allowed Zoro to pull off some pretty ridiculous feats, such as using his IQ to deduce the weakness of Hachi's swordsman, evading all of the 6 armed Fish-man's attacks with ease, and even deduced that the best method of countering Hachi's swordsmanship, such as spinning himself ontop of Hachi's blades and then instantly countering within that moment. All with his eyes closed.
This becomes more impressive whenever it's stated that Fishmen such as Hachi remain unmatched amongst humans due to the unpredictability and sheer flexibility of his 6 limbs all of which are capable of acting independently from Hachi himself, as cephalopods have 9 brains, allowing each limb to act independently. Zoro's attacks are also harder to register than the aforementioned Hachi's attacks which are high unpredictable as is.
Post time skip he does the same thing to another Fish-man but being stated to be significantly more skilled than Hachi.
Other showings of advanced showings of his information Analysis / ability to form highly effective counter measures on the spot would be Zoro creating an entirely new form of swordsmanship known as Mutoryu after being disarmed of his swords. In which Zoro is able to utilize if ever disarmed of his swords, revolving around throws and changing the trajectory of his opponents momentum, allowing Zoro to fling his opponents at one another, allowing him to cut without technically having a blade on him.
In terms of Analytical Zoro is able to outpredict other users of Goken, and using his Goken Zoro was able to match Kaku's Kenbunshoku Haki (Unknown levels at the time but still offering shit like Analytical Prediction.), being capable of predicting the trajectory of oncoming attacks even if said action is taken by inanimate objects. Zoro's Analytical Prediction has also allowed him to counter opponents who are capable of going FTE, amongst various speed amps. Predicting attacks with ever changing trajectory from other Goken users.
This becomes more impressive whenever it's stated that Fishmen such as Hachi remain unmatched amongst humans due to the unpredictability and sheer flexibility of his 6 limbs all of which are capable of acting independently from Hachi himself, as cephalopods have 9 brains, allowing each limb to act independently. Zoro's attacks are also harder to register than the aforementioned Hachi's attacks which are high unpredictable as is.
Post time skip he does the same thing to another Fish-man but being stated to be significantly more skilled than Hachi.
Other showings of advanced showings of his information Analysis / ability to form highly effective counter measures on the spot would be Zoro creating an entirely new form of swordsmanship known as Mutoryu after being disarmed of his swords. In which Zoro is able to utilize if ever disarmed of his swords, revolving around throws and changing the trajectory of his opponents momentum, allowing Zoro to fling his opponents at one another, allowing him to cut without technically having a blade on him.
In terms of Analytical Zoro is able to outpredict other users of Goken, and using his Goken Zoro was able to match Kaku's Kenbunshoku Haki (Unknown levels at the time but still offering shit like Analytical Prediction.), being capable of predicting the trajectory of oncoming attacks even if said action is taken by inanimate objects. Zoro's Analytical Prediction has also allowed him to counter opponents who are capable of going FTE, amongst various speed amps. Predicting attacks with ever changing trajectory from other Goken users.
As you'd know by now Zoro has created many different types of unique forms of swordsmanship, such as Santoryu, Mutoryu, and Kyutoryu, all of which are different forms of swordsmanship that he himself made and continues to improve upon them. The most similar feat I can think of IRL to Zoro's feats of creating a new effective swordsmanship style would be Miyamato Musashi who's widely known for his creation of Nitoryu, or more commonly known as two sword style. (Which Zoro has also mastered alongside Ittoryu.) and I'd argue Zoro's creation is significantly more impressive given how unorthodox yet incredibly efficient it is.
Zoro is also easily capable of recreating his opponents techniques, as seen when he copied Kin'no's Kitsunebi-ryu and even outright surpassing Kino's usage.
Zoro is also easily capable of recreating his opponents techniques, as seen when he copied Kin'no's Kitsunebi-ryu and even outright surpassing Kino's usage.
