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One Piece: Planet Size Discussion

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I have a lack of patience, so whoever wants to bash whoever put this planet issue in place will get thread banned.​

No this is not a "let's get upgrades now" thread. And this is separate from the main general discussion because this one is actually designed to be productive.
This will be moved to Content Revision in the case that we have anything that is actually being changed.

A long time ago, before many of us joined this verse and before many of us were even on the wiki, we made the decision to wait until the series is over until we even think about a bigger planet. Solely because Cin calced the planet to be too big. Basically Kizaru stuff with LS, but for planets instead. That's bs by the way, but whatever.

Because of the issue of not allowing larger planets regardless, Moritzva came up with these criteria.

Here
So, can we agree with the following:

Planet calculations are not to be used unless:

The planet does not sharply resemble Real Life Earth.
There are canonical measurements/references of measurement that don't require calculation stacking.
There are multiple consistent statements or frames of reference regarding it's size.
There are multiple consistent shots/images/maps of it's size.
There is little to no counterevidence or antifeats as to the planet's size.
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Here
To confirm a calculation regarding a fictional planet's size, it must be first be confirmed with little doubt that:

  • There are legitimate reasons to believe the planet may be larger beyond the calculation itself.
    • Examples of this can vary from confirmation from the author, suggestion or statements from characters in-verse, or features resembling that of later planets (such as rings around the planet).
  • There are limited anti-feats regarding the planet's size, such as defying physics that would come with a planet of such size.
  • The planet does not directly resemble our planet Earth, and thus, can be assumed to be of different size.
  • The planet calculation is consistent with any other shots or models of the planet in the verse.
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This thread is to discuss what requirements that the OP planet follow, possibly adding this to the page in its notes section.
Let's discuss.
 
Here's what I have so far.

Geography​

The One Piece planet minimally resembles earth in anyway outside of them having the same shape as a planet.

The One Piece planet's global geography includes
  1. The Red Line: A large number of connected islands which form a super continent, which stretches along the prime meridian of the planet.
  2. The Calm Belt: Two large oceans which border the North and South of the Grand Line. It is always calm, never having any ocean currents or blowing winds.
  3. A large Ocean dubbed "The Blue Sea", which is split up into 5 parts.
    1. The North Blue: The Northernmost ocean in the Blue Sea.
    2. The South Blue: The Southernmost ocean in the Blue Sea.
    3. The East Blue: The Easternmost ocean in the Blue Sea.
    4. The West Blue: The Westernmost ocean in the Blue Sea.
    5. The Grand Line: The Middlemost ocean in the Blue Sea which stretches along the equator of the planet.
  4. The Planet is revealed to have North and South Poles by Buggy and Shanks, and brought up again from where Surume is from.
  5. The Sea Floor: A constant landmass formed of the world's crust which reaches to over 10 Kilometers deep, whereas the average Sea Floor in real life is less than 4 Kilometers deep, and the deepest part of the sea in real life is the Challenger Deep, which is 10.9 Kilometers deep.
    1. The Sea Floor can be argued to be over 15 Kilometers deep, shown during chapter 647-648 where the 5,000 meter long Sea Kings appear to be much shorter than the distance under Fishman Island, which is 10 Kilometers deep.
  6. Reverse Mountain: An extremely large mountain 10 Km above Sea level, while our tallest mountain (Mount Everest) is 8,848 meters above Sea Level
  7. The Planet has a plethora of islands
    1. Stated to be at least 20 million islands
    2. Islands in the Sky
    3. Islands under water
    4. Several different Archipelagos like Sabaody, Totto Land, Long Ring Long Island, and many more
    5. Completely different islands than the ones we have in real life
The main point is that the Planet's Geography is different. Aside from the North and South Pole, the continents are different, the landmasses are different, and more. In fact, they never refer to it as Earth.

Climate​

The One Piece planet's climates drastically differs from earth's.

The Grand Line​

The Grand Line alone has dramatically different climates and mechanics than our world does.

One point is that the islands on the One Piece planet, specifically on the Grand Line, have their own magnetic fields. Their dramatically differing magnetic fields cause insane weather issues like the ones in Chapter 106, which were specifically stated to be caused by seven close magnetic fields from Reverse Island by Vivi in Chapter 115.

The ocean currents and weather patterns are extremely volatile and inconsistent to where they can drastically change instantaneously. Random water spouts, storms, blizzards, heat waves, thick fog (all of that, Chapter 106), and incredibly large cyclones (Chapter 130) are the norm on the Grand Line.

The ridiculous weather patterns are based on the differing climates and magnetic fields clashing. The Grand Line is stated to have islands with 4 different classifications (Summer Island, Spring Island, Autumn Island, and Winter Island), and each type of island has 4 seasons of their own (Chapter 132), in total, 16 different climates not including unknown climates and exceptions.

On the grand line, underwater there are underwater caves filled with gas, and when they explode, they can send powerful sea currents upwards in the form of "Knock up Streams", shown in Chapter 236 and Chapter 996. These happen five times a month.

The Atmosphere​

The Atmosphere of the One Piece planet is drastically different from earth.

For starters, the Atmosphere is hinted to be much larger, hinted with the fact that people can travel to the moon via methods requiring air.

It is said in the real world that it is impossible for balloons to reach space since they expand to the point of combustion at 10 Km. This is shown to differ from the One Piece planet, since in Enel's Cover Story of Chapter 453, the Automata reach the moon via using Air Balloons.

The atmosphere having that quality is not contradicted. In fact, it's supported. Enel uses the Ark, Maxim, which uses multiple rotors and propellers to help it fly, to get to the moon. His backup is 200 Jet Dials, which uses air to accelerate whatever it's connected to, in case anything happens to keep the ship in the air for an hour (Chapter 285). We can see the propellors working in space in Chapter 428, and we see that Enel arrived in Chapter 429.

The planet also has enough air to breathe at extremely high elevations, even though it admittedly does get harder to breathe at higher altitudes. According to this website, the max altitude you can breathe in the real world is 20,000 feet, or 6,096 meters. In Chapter 238, we see that the Oxygen is scarce at 7,000 meters high in the sky on the White Sea, but it's still enough to breathe there. This is brought up again in Chapter 242 when they reach the White-White Sea, 10,000 meters high, where there is still enough air to breathe.

The Atmosphere 7,000 and 10,000 above Sea level can also handle and create dense clouds that can maintain holding ships and people, referred to as Sea Clouds and Island Clouds.

The Size​

The planet is flat out bigger.

Alabasta​

We have the Alabasta river scaling which makes it to where the 50 km river is like a dot on the map of alabasta, which is tiny compared to the grand line, which is smaller than the red line, which is drastically smaller than earth.
We have a map of the Loguetown Novel which is based off of Oda's concept art of the world. Nothing there is shaped like Alabasta, and that's around where Alabasta would be.
We have many maps and we see that Alabasta is never known to be that much bigger.

Wano​

We also know Wano, a large country in itself, which dwarves Onigashima, another large island in itself, is known to be tiny to the red line and to the world.

Kuma's Movement​

We know Kuma sent the Strawhats flying for 2-3 days and they only got to places relatively close to their original location in the world (the calm belt).
For them to have traveled the diameter of the earth in 3 days (the lowball), they'd need to be moving at 73.7384259259 m/s.

Newsflash, they moved much faster. People scaling above stated Lightning speed characters couldn't track their movement, and they moved that for 2-3 days.
And they deadass just stayed relative to their location in the world compared to the globe. The planet is much larger.
So the planet is relatively very huge.
 
KingTempest said:
Here's what I have so far.

Geography​

The One Piece planet minimally resembles earth in anyway outside of them having the same shape as a planet.

The One Piece planet's global geography includes
  1. The Red Line: A large number of connected islands which form a super continent, which stretches along the prime meridian of the planet.
  2. The Calm Belt: Two large oceans which border the North and South of the Grand Line. It is always calm, never having any ocean currents or blowing winds.
  3. A large Ocean dubbed "The Blue Sea", which is split up into 5 parts.
    1. The North Blue: The Northernmost ocean in the Blue Sea.
    2. The South Blue: The Southernmost ocean in the Blue Sea.
    3. The East Blue: The Easternmost ocean in the Blue Sea.
    4. The West Blue: The Westernmost ocean in the Blue Sea.
    5. The Grand Line: The Middlemost ocean in the Blue Sea which stretches along the equator of the planet.
  4. The Planet is revealed to have North and South Poles by Buggy and Shanks, and brought up again from where Surume is from.
  5. The Sea Floor: A constant landmass formed of the world's crust which reaches to over 10 Kilometers deep, whereas the average Sea Floor in real life is less than 4 Kilometers deep, and the deepest part of the sea in real life is the Challenger Deep, which is 10.9 Kilometers deep.
    1. The Sea Floor can be argued to be over 15 Kilometers deep, shown during chapter 647-648 where the 5,000 meter long Sea Kings appear to be much shorter than the distance under Fishman Island, which is 10 Kilometers deep.
  6. Reverse Mountain: An extremely large mountain 10 Km above Sea level, while our tallest mountain (Mount Everest) is 8,848 meters above Sea Level
  7. The Planet has a plethora of islands
    1. Stated to be at least 20 million islands
    2. Islands in the Sky
    3. Islands under water
    4. Several different Archipelagos like Sabaody, Totto Land, Long Ring Long Island, and many more
    5. Completely different islands than the ones we have in real life
The main point is that the Planet's Geography is different. Aside from the North and South Pole, the continents are different, the landmasses are different, and more. In fact, they never refer to it as Earth.

Climate​

The One Piece planet's climates drastically differs from earth's.

The Grand Line​

The Grand Line alone has dramatically different climates and mechanics than our world does.

One point is that the islands on the One Piece planet, specifically on the Grand Line, have their own magnetic fields. Their dramatically differing magnetic fields cause insane weather issues like the ones in Chapter 106, which were specifically stated to be caused by seven close magnetic fields from Reverse Island by Vivi in Chapter 115.

The ocean currents and weather patterns are extremely volatile and inconsistent to where they can drastically change instantaneously. Random water spouts, storms, blizzards, heat waves, thick fog (all of that, Chapter 106), and incredibly large cyclones (Chapter 130) are the norm on the Grand Line.

The ridiculous weather patterns are based on the differing climates and magnetic fields clashing. The Grand Line is stated to have islands with 4 different classifications (Summer Island, Spring Island, Autumn Island, and Winter Island), and each type of island has 4 seasons of their own (Chapter 132), in total, 16 different climates not including unknown climates and exceptions.

On the grand line, underwater there are underwater caves filled with gas, and when they explode, they can send powerful sea currents upwards in the form of "Knock up Streams", shown in Chapter 236 and Chapter 996. These happen five times a month.

The Atmosphere​

The Atmosphere of the One Piece planet is drastically different from earth.

For starters, the Atmosphere is hinted to be much larger, hinted with the fact that people can travel to the moon via methods requiring air.

It is said in the real world that it is impossible for balloons to reach space since they expand to the point of combustion at 10 Km. This is shown to differ from the One Piece planet, since in Enel's Cover Story of Chapter 453, the Automata reach the moon via using Air Balloons.

The atmosphere having that quality is not contradicted. In fact, it's supported. Enel uses the Ark, Maxim, which uses multiple rotors and propellers to help it fly, to get to the moon. His backup is 200 Jet Dials, which uses air to accelerate whatever it's connected to, in case anything happens to keep the ship in the air for an hour (Chapter 285). We can see the propellors working in space in Chapter 428, and we see that Enel arrived in Chapter 429.

The planet also has enough air to breathe at extremely high elevations, even though it admittedly does get harder to breathe at higher altitudes. According to this website, the max altitude you can breathe in the real world is 20,000 feet, or 6,096 meters. In Chapter 238, we see that the Oxygen is scarce at 7,000 meters high in the sky on the White Sea, but it's still enough to breathe there. This is brought up again in Chapter 242 when they reach the White-White Sea, 10,000 meters high, where there is still enough air to breathe.

The Atmosphere 7,000 and 10,000 above Sea level can also handle and create dense clouds that can maintain holding ships and people, referred to as Sea Clouds and Island Clouds.

The Size​

The planet is flat out bigger.

Alabasta​

We have the Alabasta river scaling which makes it to where the 50 km river is like a dot on the map of alabasta, which is tiny compared to the grand line, which is smaller than the red line, which is drastically smaller than earth.
We have a map of the Loguetown Novel which is based off of Oda's concept art of the world. Nothing there is shaped like Alabasta, and that's around where Alabasta would be.
We have many maps and we see that Alabasta is never known to be that much bigger.

Wano​

We also know Wano, a large country in itself, which dwarves Onigashima, another large island in itself, is known to be tiny to the red line and to the world.

Kuma's Movement​

We know Kuma sent the Strawhats flying for 2-3 days and they only got to places relatively close to their original location in the world (the calm belt).
For them to have traveled the diameter of the earth in 3 days (the lowball), they'd need to be moving at 73.7384259259 m/s.

Newsflash, they moved much faster. People scaling above stated Lightning speed characters couldn't track their movement, and they moved that for 2-3 days.
And they deadass just stayed relative to their location in the world compared to the globe. The planet is much larger.
So the planet is relatively very huge.
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Yeah this is an extremely high preponderance of evidence that the OP planet is significantly different than our irl Earth. Certainly different enough to warrant questioning the assumption that planet = earth sized.
 
KingTempest said:
Here's what I have so far.

Geography​

The One Piece planet minimally resembles earth in anyway outside of them having the same shape as a planet.

The One Piece planet's global geography includes
  1. The Red Line: A large number of connected islands which form a super continent, which stretches along the prime meridian of the planet.
  2. The Calm Belt: Two large oceans which border the North and South of the Grand Line. It is always calm, never having any ocean currents or blowing winds.
  3. A large Ocean dubbed "The Blue Sea", which is split up into 5 parts.
    1. The North Blue: The Northernmost ocean in the Blue Sea.
    2. The South Blue: The Southernmost ocean in the Blue Sea.
    3. The East Blue: The Easternmost ocean in the Blue Sea.
    4. The West Blue: The Westernmost ocean in the Blue Sea.
    5. The Grand Line: The Middlemost ocean in the Blue Sea which stretches along the equator of the planet.
  4. The Planet is revealed to have North and South Poles by Buggy and Shanks, and brought up again from where Surume is from.
  5. The Sea Floor: A constant landmass formed of the world's crust which reaches to over 10 Kilometers deep, whereas the average Sea Floor in real life is less than 4 Kilometers deep, and the deepest part of the sea in real life is the Challenger Deep, which is 10.9 Kilometers deep.
    1. The Sea Floor can be argued to be over 15 Kilometers deep, shown during chapter 647-648 where the 5,000 meter long Sea Kings appear to be much shorter than the distance under Fishman Island, which is 10 Kilometers deep.
  6. Reverse Mountain: An extremely large mountain 10 Km above Sea level, while our tallest mountain (Mount Everest) is 8,848 meters above Sea Level
  7. The Planet has a plethora of islands
    1. Stated to be at least 20 million islands
    2. Islands in the Sky
    3. Islands under water
    4. Several different Archipelagos like Sabaody, Totto Land, Long Ring Long Island, and many more
    5. Completely different islands than the ones we have in real life
The main point is that the Planet's Geography is different. Aside from the North and South Pole, the continents are different, the landmasses are different, and more. In fact, they never refer to it as Earth.

Climate​

The One Piece planet's climates drastically differs from earth's.

The Grand Line​

The Grand Line alone has dramatically different climates and mechanics than our world does.

One point is that the islands on the One Piece planet, specifically on the Grand Line, have their own magnetic fields. Their dramatically differing magnetic fields cause insane weather issues like the ones in Chapter 106, which were specifically stated to be caused by seven close magnetic fields from Reverse Island by Vivi in Chapter 115.

The ocean currents and weather patterns are extremely volatile and inconsistent to where they can drastically change instantaneously. Random water spouts, storms, blizzards, heat waves, thick fog (all of that, Chapter 106), and incredibly large cyclones (Chapter 130) are the norm on the Grand Line.

The ridiculous weather patterns are based on the differing climates and magnetic fields clashing. The Grand Line is stated to have islands with 4 different classifications (Summer Island, Spring Island, Autumn Island, and Winter Island), and each type of island has 4 seasons of their own (Chapter 132), in total, 16 different climates not including unknown climates and exceptions.

On the grand line, underwater there are underwater caves filled with gas, and when they explode, they can send powerful sea currents upwards in the form of "Knock up Streams", shown in Chapter 236 and Chapter 996. These happen five times a month.

The Atmosphere​

The Atmosphere of the One Piece planet is drastically different from earth.

For starters, the Atmosphere is hinted to be much larger, hinted with the fact that people can travel to the moon via methods requiring air.

It is said in the real world that it is impossible for balloons to reach space since they expand to the point of combustion at 10 Km. This is shown to differ from the One Piece planet, since in Enel's Cover Story of Chapter 453, the Automata reach the moon via using Air Balloons.

The atmosphere having that quality is not contradicted. In fact, it's supported. Enel uses the Ark, Maxim, which uses multiple rotors and propellers to help it fly, to get to the moon. His backup is 200 Jet Dials, which uses air to accelerate whatever it's connected to, in case anything happens to keep the ship in the air for an hour (Chapter 285). We can see the propellors working in space in Chapter 428, and we see that Enel arrived in Chapter 429.

The planet also has enough air to breathe at extremely high elevations, even though it admittedly does get harder to breathe at higher altitudes. According to this website, the max altitude you can breathe in the real world is 20,000 feet, or 6,096 meters. In Chapter 238, we see that the Oxygen is scarce at 7,000 meters high in the sky on the White Sea, but it's still enough to breathe there. This is brought up again in Chapter 242 when they reach the White-White Sea, 10,000 meters high, where there is still enough air to breathe.

The Atmosphere 7,000 and 10,000 above Sea level can also handle and create dense clouds that can maintain holding ships and people, referred to as Sea Clouds and Island Clouds.

The Size​

The planet is flat out bigger.

Alabasta​

We have the Alabasta river scaling which makes it to where the 50 km river is like a dot on the map of alabasta, which is tiny compared to the grand line, which is smaller than the red line, which is drastically smaller than earth.
We have a map of the Loguetown Novel which is based off of Oda's concept art of the world. Nothing there is shaped like Alabasta, and that's around where Alabasta would be.
We have many maps and we see that Alabasta is never known to be that much bigger.

Wano​

We also know Wano, a large country in itself, which dwarves Onigashima, another large island in itself, is known to be tiny to the red line and to the world.

Kuma's Movement​

We know Kuma sent the Strawhats flying for 2-3 days and they only got to places relatively close to their original location in the world (the calm belt).
For them to have traveled the diameter of the earth in 3 days (the lowball), they'd need to be moving at 73.7384259259 m/s.

Newsflash, they moved much faster. People scaling above stated Lightning speed characters couldn't track their movement, and they moved that for 2-3 days.
And they deadass just stayed relative to their location in the world compared to the globe. The planet is much larger.
So the planet is relatively very huge.
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Yeaaaaaaah. It's definitely bigger. But putting size aside, I think it's at least impossible to argue against the fact that it's drastically different from IRL Earth.

Good job putting all this together. It's definitely a compelling amount of evidence.
 
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Easy agree.
KingTempest said:
It was accepted that "wait until the end of the series".
And then what're we gonna do? Pixelscale the planet again off the map? Same issue?
I'm not waiting 5 years for the same logic to shit on the planet size
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Asides from the fact that you're right about nothing changing years from now, by the time the series ends I'm probably going to have forgotten One Piece due to my old age giving me dementia.

I highly doubt further evidence of what the planet's size really is will come in future chapters.
 
I've always supported the OP World being huge.

I just don't want to wait until I'm 101 and the series finally ends for the planet's real size to be confirmed.

Also, I'm surprised @Damage3245 hasn't commented yet.
 
If we accept it's bigger than default IRL Earth, would that also change the default planet gravity value to use for this verse? Assuming any calcs use the Earth gravity value of course. This could still have considerable alterations to how we rate mass in general, but IDK if that'd fall as calc stacking.
 
Specifically the only calc I know that uses earth's gravity is Issho's highest meteor.

Idk if earthquakes get affected, we could recalc Doffy's stuff for support as well
 
I'm a bit afraid of the potential ramifications for the God Tier calcs that a much larger planet size might have.

It could end up like how @DemonGodMitchAubin made all the 6-C's in Fairy Tail go up to High 6-A and all the High 6-A's go up to 5-A.

Utter, beautiful, chaotic madness.
 
Eseseso said:
Also, I'm surprised @Damage3245 hasn't commented yet.
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I just haven't seen the thread until now.


I'll go through the thread soon, my gut instinct reaction though to the topic itself is that this is going to lead to a lot of extra variables that are little better than headcanon such as "Maybe One Piece Earth have higher gravity than our Earth because it's bigger" or "Maybe the One Piece's Earth has higher atmospheric density", "Maybe the ground itself is denser." Basically a lot of things that we can't actually prove but we just assume because of calcs for the planet's size, and it is used as an excuse to upgrade several calcs.

I know I might sound like I'm being a downer here, just trying to block what many would consider to be reasonable upgrades without even seeing what is being proposed yet, but I've seen things like this before. There are some people who will try to upgrade the planet's gravity or atmospheric thickness or whatever just because it can alter calcs.

Not to say something like "An attack that can destroy the OP Earth is bigger than an attack that can destroy our IRL Earth" is wrong, because that's a different scenario IMO. That kind of reasoning is fine. It's when people try to alter the basic variables of calcs for favorable upgrades that I think people begin pushing headcanon too strongly.

(Just note, these are my opinions and gut reactions above. Not accusing anyone of anything)
 
Damage3245 said:
I just haven't seen the thread until now.


I'll go through the thread soon, my gut instinct reaction though to the topic itself is that this is going to lead to a lot of extra variables that are little better than headcanon such as "Maybe One Piece Earth have higher gravity than our Earth because it's bigger" or "Maybe the One Piece's Earth has higher atmospheric density", "Maybe the ground itself is denser." Basically a lot of things that we can't actually prove but we just assume because of calcs for the planet's size, and it is used as an excuse to upgrade several calcs.

I know I might sound like I'm being a downer here, just trying to block what many would consider to be reasonable upgrades without even seeing what is being proposed yet, but I've seen things like this before. There are some people who will try to upgrade the planet's gravity or atmospheric thickness or whatever just because it can alter calcs.

Not to say something like "An attack that can destroy the OP Earth is bigger than an attack that can destroy our IRL Earth" is wrong, because that's a different scenario IMO. That kind of reasoning is fine. It's when people try to alter the basic variables of calcs for favorable upgrades that I think people begin pushing headcanon too strongly.

(Just note, these are my opinions and gut reactions above. Not accusing anyone of anything)
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Your opinion is… actually 100% valid
Assuming something like the pulv value is larger or that the speed feats are higher, although based on something, is headassery.

Very few things get affected by this tbh, so in all actuality, it shouldn’t affect too much.
 
KingTempest said:
Your opinion is… actually 100% valid
Assuming something like the pulv value is larger or that the speed feats are higher, although based on something, is headassery.

Very few things get affected by this tbh, so in all actuality, it shouldn’t affect too much.
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what those main specific things that are affected?
 
StrawHatArslan said:
what those main specific things that are affected?
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Not too many off of the top of my head

Everything before that majorly was affected by planet size was the meteor calcs which were changed to my methods.

Maybe PE calcs? Idk how it’d work with lifting feats, maybe some more idk
 
I personally want it to be massive (I'm talking sun size here).

Not for any calc reasons, oh no, I just think Earth-like planets that are the size of stars in fiction are really, really cool.

In case you couldn't tell, I'm a bit of a sci fi geek.
 
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Although if it boosted the durability of Doflamingo's strings tanking Fujitora's meteor (since the meteor could be much stronger), I would certainly not mind.
 
KingTempest said:
Imma find what’s the most consistent.
If Sun size is consistent (which I doubt it’ll be), then that’s it.
If Jupiter’s consistent, then boom
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I don't know, I've just seen at least a half dozen calcs of the OP world being sun-sized.
 
can have 1000 sun sized calcs. they need to be evaluated and checked. they also need to not be duplicates, cause you could've seen half a dozen calcs all using the same exact method
 
Islands like Alabasta and Wano fit in the grandline length-wise and are horizons and horizeons apart. The Grandline ALONE likely has more area then our planet.
When the straw hats left Alabasta they couldn't see Jaya in the horizon and by then Alabasta itself was long gone from sight as well. There's no way you could have an "earth sized world" fit islands that big with THAT great a distance.

I do totally agree. Always been for this. The One Piece world being as big... Small as our earth is impossible.
 
Damage3245 said:
I just haven't seen the thread until now.


I'll go through the thread soon, my gut instinct reaction though to the topic itself is that this is going to lead to a lot of extra variables that are little better than headcanon such as "Maybe One Piece Earth have higher gravity than our Earth because it's bigger" or "Maybe the One Piece's Earth has higher atmospheric density", "Maybe the ground itself is denser." Basically a lot of things that we can't actually prove but we just assume because of calcs for the planet's size, and it is used as an excuse to upgrade several calcs.

I know I might sound like I'm being a downer here, just trying to block what many would consider to be reasonable upgrades without even seeing what is being proposed yet, but I've seen things like this before. There are some people who will try to upgrade the planet's gravity or atmospheric thickness or whatever just because it can alter calcs.

Not to say something like "An attack that can destroy the OP Earth is bigger than an attack that can destroy our IRL Earth" is wrong, because that's a different scenario IMO. That kind of reasoning is fine. It's when people try to alter the basic variables of calcs for favorable upgrades that I think people begin pushing headcanon too strongly.

(Just note, these are my opinions and gut reactions above. Not accusing anyone of anything)
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Just had a thought.

Why don't we assume the planet is "at least as dense as water" considering the planet isn't entirely water (i.e. it is actually denser as it is a rocky planet) this would technically lowball its mass below its true theoretical value; however, it would provide an absolute minimum constraint on density and thus mass.
 
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