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One Piece: Planet Size Discussion
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I thought Roger took 14 years initially, then when he finally got Oden he was STILL in the Grandline so his trip was overall quicker since all he needed was a translator
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At some points, the river width is 3 pixels.
Max is 2px I think
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/837119896848171028/966000898432176148/Screen_Shot_2022-04-19_at_11.42.33_AM.png
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That's not the water tho... That's calcing the edge of the water or something that outlines the border of the water
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The water all across sems to be a single pixel across. You're including the black outlines which should be considered part of the ground rather than water. It's practically impossible to draw the entirety of that river all consistent and much safer to assume the ENTIRETY of it from start to finish is 50KM across since the statement exists anyway. Going off "Oda didn't micro-focus and drew one extra pixel here" to assume a different width contradicting a canon statement is just... Weird-
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13 years* but The second time he knew where he was going I guess, but he visited all those major islands while going round the world.
Just like you travel fast when going to a place you have been before and with a map this time
The first time he was just following clues around
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Thing is, if you take a look at where Oden drew wano in comparaison to the redline, it doesn't seem to be THAT far away or too far across the grandline's second half. Roger met them around there, THEN took Oden and had a second (likely far shorter, quicker trip).
If I'm not wrong, the furthest BACK we've seen him go is Enies Lobby, which is close to Marineford and Sabaody, which are right by the redline/fishman island.
His trip did not cover that great a distance compared to the ENTIRETY of the redline and it still took a whole year despite him speedrunning it.
He didn't go in a straight line even then, or around the entirety of the grandline to say he took a year to get around the world. He's only stated to have "CONQUERED" the grandline a year before his death. Unless I'm remembering wrong- (it's been like two years or more already since we had that flashback)
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You took the slimmest (and diagonal) area of the river
Max is 2px I think
I can see several 4px width areas
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The slimmest? That was the biggest, what are you talking about? 4px where?
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literally all over the place. The outline is still the river.
It was not near the biggest
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Just account for the 2 bordering sides as ~half and account it as 2 or 3
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Are there any other planet size calcs?
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Right here
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If that's Ideashock then we're not using it
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Nope
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Save for the two old CinCameron's calcs that put it at about half the size of yours, and the second which is 2x Jupiter's size-- I can't recall others.
There's one other calc in favor of >Sun size
And one which is closer to SuperScharbe's's one with >Bigger than jupiter.
It's either very big, or insanely big from what I've seen
There's one other calc in favor of >Sun size
And one which is closer to SuperScharbe's's one with >Bigger than jupiter.
It's either very big, or insanely big from what I've seen
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Do we know how long it took them to travel from Roguetown/Loguetown to Reverse Mountain?
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From Whiskey Peak to Water 7 was over a month
But other than that, we don't know any specifics, only lowballs for timeframes on the sea
But other than that, we don't know any specifics, only lowballs for timeframes on the sea
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There wasn't too big of a time skip. They sailed out of Logue Town and saw the Lighthouse. By the time they did that, Logue Town itself was out of sight as well.
There's no confirmed duration but they leave Loguetown, enter the calm belt, get shot back into the storm again and go straight to reverse mountain. The whole thing seemingly happens during the same day.
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ohhhh reverse mountain i thought u said red line marijoa section
it's extremely close
it's extremely close
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Calculation
Whitebeard
APTsuyu says Whitebeard's earthquakes can be felt halfway around the world (https://scans-hot.leanbox.us/manga/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics/0553-007.png)
I will calculate the size of the One Piece world
Scans:
Rayleigh swims from Red-Line to Amazon Lily. The time I will assume he swam 2 days, as the Mugiwara's were already returning after the scheduled 3 days. Rayleigh constantly battled sea monsters, taking into account a great white shark's speed of 4.16m/s (http://www.speedofanimals.com/animals/great_white_shark)
2 days= 172800 seconds
172800*4.16= 718848 meters or 718.848km
As Amazon Lily is in the middle of the Calm Belt, I will multiply this distance by 2, thus having 1437.696km
Now the size of the planet
Screen: 921px
Earth: 782px
Calm Belt: 32px
Actual Size: sqrt(1-(tan(35)(32/921))^2/((tan(35)(32/921))^2+1))*1437.696
Actual Size: 1437.27km
Calm Belt: 1437.27km
Earth's Diameter: 32857.376km
Earth's Radius: 16428.688km
Now let's go to the calculation of Whitebeard in total
(2*16428.688*π)*(180/360)= 51612.245km
Low-End
Tsuyu said she wouldn't be safe, so magnitude 4.1 (Minimum to feel an earthquake)
4.1+6.399+1.66*log((51612.245/110)((2π)/360))= 12.01497413
10^(1.5*12.01497413+4.8)= 6.6444830×10^22J or 15.879 Teratons (Country)
mid-end
Tsuyu said she wouldn't be safe, so magnitude 4.9 (Maximum to feel an earthquake without damage)
4.9+6.399+1.66*log((51612.245/110)((2π)/360))= 12.81497413
10^(1.5*12.81497413+4.8)= 1.0530795×10^24J or 251,673 Teratons (Big Country)
high-end
It was said that Tsuyu would not be protected, so I will consider a scale of 7 (Energy needed for destroying buildings)
7+6.399+1.66*log((51612.245/110)((2π)/360))= 14.91497413
10^(1.5*14.91497413+4.8)= 1.4875144×10^27J or 355.64 Petatons (Multi Continental)
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Ah yes, that thing she clearly didn't say...
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oh no
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Tsuyu says Whitebeard's earthquakes can be felt halfway around the world (https://scans-hot.leanbox.us/manga/One-Piece-Digital-Colored-Comics/0553-007.png)
I will calculate the size of the One Piece world
Scans:
Rayleigh swims from Red-Line to Amazon Lily. The time I will assume he swam 2 days, as the Mugiwara's were already returning after the scheduled 3 days. Rayleigh constantly battled sea monsters, taking into account a great white shark's speed of 4.16m/s (http://www.speedofanimals.com/animals/great_white_shark)
2 days= 172800 seconds
172800*4.16= 718848 meters or 718.848km
As Amazon Lily is in the middle of the Calm Belt, I will multiply this distance by 2, thus having 1437.696km
Now the size of the planet
Screen: 921px
Earth: 782px
Calm Belt: 32px
Actual Size: sqrt(1-(tan(35)(32/921))^2/((tan(35)(32/921))^2+1))*1437.696
Actual Size: 1437.27km
Calm Belt: 1437.27km
Earth's Diameter: 32857.376km
Earth's Radius: 16428.688km
Now let's go to the calculation of Whitebeard in total
(2*16428.688*π)*(180/360)= 51612.245km
Low-End
Tsuyu said she wouldn't be safe, so magnitude 4.1 (Minimum to feel an earthquake)
4.1+6.399+1.66*log((51612.245/110)((2π)/360))= 12.01497413
10^(1.5*12.01497413+4.8)= 6.6444830×10^22J or 15.879 Teratons (Country)
mid-end
Tsuyu said she wouldn't be safe, so magnitude 4.9 (Maximum to feel an earthquake without damage)
4.9+6.399+1.66*log((51612.245/110)((2π)/360))= 12.81497413
10^(1.5*12.81497413+4.8)= 1.0530795×10^24J or 251,673 Teratons (Big Country)
high-end
It was said that Tsuyu would not be protected, so I will consider a scale of 7 (Energy needed for destroying buildings)
7+6.399+1.66*log((51612.245/110)((2π)/360))= 14.91497413
10^(1.5*14.91497413+4.8)= 1.4875144×10^27J or 355.64 Petatons (Multi Continental)
Tier 0 Luffy finally
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Yeah I'll just ignore everything below that
This map of the globe appears to be something from the Dive to Grand World minibook which makes it canon enough to use,
However the landmarks are clearly not fit to scale. The planet is astronomical compared to the red line, while this makes it look like they're relative in size.
Islands on the map look ridiculous too.
Some random behind huge continents on the planet when there is none like that in the regular OP planetary shots.
Now assuming Rayleigh swims at the speed of a great white shark is ridiculous. Those swim up to 24 mph, the fastest human is like 6 mph.
Calm belt not that big compared to the globe either.
Looks like the math is fine but the globe is bad and it uses weird assumptions.
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It's a map... Not something that's accurate, we can see the island yet in the manga alabasta is a dot on the ocean where no other island can be seen, it's meant to highlight places not for sizes and distance of things
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I second this.
She refers to the "madness", which could very well just be the chaotic fighting.
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It already has been accepted to be larger years ago, this was to see what values we have at our disposal
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Well, as I told @KingTempest , I used an online picture of the OP World with the Grand Line (although the pixel scaling I used was...not great, to say the least, and I'm not sure how reliable the image was), then used that to get a fair estimate of the New Grand Line's width, then applied that to a recent calc of King's involving Whitebeard shaking the Grand Line.
Of course, since the Earthquake was around Magnitude 15.422, I had to use the multiplier ration of sqrt(1000) for ever 1-point increase in magnitude.
The result was about 2 exatons.
But asides from my delusions, I doubt any calcs will change aside from Fujitora's feats that involve the planet's gravity in their calc. Since I don't think all of them rely on the OP world's gravity.
Of course, since the Earthquake was around Magnitude 15.422, I had to use the multiplier ration of sqrt(1000) for ever 1-point increase in magnitude.
The result was about 2 exatons.
But asides from my delusions, I doubt any calcs will change aside from Fujitora's feats that involve the planet's gravity in their calc. Since I don't think all of them rely on the OP world's gravity.
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We should agree on the size first, because the one he uses conflicts with the larger than sun calculation. Also people say it doesn't effect the feats, but what about the scaling? Gear 5 Luffy>Marineford Whitebeard making Luffy and Kaido multi-continental to moon level
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Btw, just did the low-end, mid-end, and high-end versions of the calc @GroundX1 did, but with the planet size of @KingTempest.
The low-end is roughly 67.4 yottatons (5-A).
The mid-end is roughly 1.068 ninatons (Also 5-A)
The high-end is 1.508 Tenatons (High 5-A, and literally 20% of the value for Baseline Low 4-C).
The low-end is roughly 67.4 yottatons (5-A).
The mid-end is roughly 1.068 ninatons (Also 5-A)
The high-end is 1.508 Tenatons (High 5-A, and literally 20% of the value for Baseline Low 4-C).
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Heck, it doesn’t even use pixelscaling
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Y’all tryna find yields for calcs that aren’t even used yet. Don’t waste your energy.
Also, take the calcs some other thread
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can you send a link to that calc?
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Yup. I find pixescaling heavily questionable tbh. Unless it's absolutely necessary to use just to scale sizes to other given ones, it's a lil' iffy all the time. The Zunesha calc using nothing but a time period and nothing prior to its introduction just sits right with me.
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