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One Piece: Pixelscalingless Planet | Blue Planet Version 4

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Not sure if I like the idea of using this kind of secondary attack effect for measurment or if I would prefer it over pixelscaling methods.
Also, if the thing is bigger than the sun, than the composition assumptions used for seismic wave travel probably aren't sound? Like, with that kind of result there is no other way than the planet to be largely composed of magic.
 
Not sure if I like the idea of using this kind of secondary attack effect for measurment or if I would prefer it over pixelscaling methods.
Also, if the thing is bigger than the sun, than the composition assumptions used for seismic wave travel probably aren't sound? Like, with that kind of result there is no other way than the planet to be largely composed of magic.
YES!

Literally what I've been saying, this causes so many problems to the series' world building and is so large that using realistic seismic waves is backwards. Also the waves themselves behave unrealistically in the feat itself.
 
Also seismic waves are generally omnidirectional and not directional, aren't they? The reason I ask is because this method seems to be assuming that the initial seaquake felt when Lulusia was destroyed had its energy directed down specifically at the core, which was then bounced back across the entire globe.

If the initial seaquake at Lulusia was strong enough for its effects to be felt across the entire globe six days later, then the initial omnidirectional seismic energy should've been felt across all the islands nearer to Lulusia much earlier and with far greater intensity than what we see six days later.
 
the functions and effects of the weapon ≠ the functions and effects of just basic physics
I wouldn't say it's basic physics, it's in fact quite advanced physics. The idea that Oda would respect this pretty obscure fact about how shockwaves would travel underground rather than just produce a date without much thinking isn't very well substantiated, especially when it leads to a planet that's several times bigger than the Sun. Let's be honest, as DT said that would completely break physics apart, so even in a vacuum the logic isn't very consistent.

All in all, I disagree.
 
A body with Earth-like density and this radius would gravitationally compress itself enormously. Realistically, it would collapse toward stellar structure physics. You cannot keep ordinary rocky-planet density at this scale without exotic matter or fictional stabilization. One Piece makes no particular effort to make the soil, gravity, or scale of the planet that big, the fact you got that result from an Earthquake is also telling, it might be just a case of genuine ignorance on Oda's part.
Logically, this size makes no sense given the whole worldbulding, and the same physics you're using. 10km deep water and 10km high clouds on a 3 million km radius is functionally insane.

Also, you made an objective mistake on GBE.



Why did you use the km unit instead of the meters?
The value you should be using is: R = 3628800000m

Pluging that denominator we have:

GBE: (3/5) * 6.674e-11 * (1.1038834563235711e+33)^2 / (3628800000) = 1.34468596e46Joules or 134.4685 Foe
So the calc overshoots by exactly 1000× due to unit mismatch
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Also, another issue, you claim "everyone felt the Earthquake at the same time 6 days later", this is nonsense, completely irrealistic, thus, a center-reflection propagation model is speculative. Real seismic waves do refract through planetary interiors and emerge globally, but not in a perfectly synchronized fashion. The manga likely ignores travel timing entirely for narrative simplicity. That's not how Earthquakes work whatsoever. The phenomenon itself is just as realistic as the planet size it provides.

Also, the propragation speed assumes immense internal pressure without accouting for the consequences of having such internal pressure in the first place.

One more problem, even if we grant the perfect synchronization, the 6-days don't necessarily represent seismic travel time. Because waves from one island don't converge on the geometric center of the planet, they travel outward in all directions and would converge near the antipodal point of Lulusia. A true omnidirectional rebound from the core requires the energy to arrive at the core from all directions at once, which requires the explosion to be occurring everywhere on the planet simultaneously, not just at one island.

For everyone else, let me explain exactly what the calc assumes to be happening:
  • Lulusia explodes.
  • Seismic energy travels inward.
  • The waves reach the planet’s center.
  • The center acts like a perfect redistribution point.
  • The energy rebounds outward equally in all directions.
  • The entire planet feels the quake simultaneously.
You don't need me to explain that this does not work under any physics model to ever exist, right? You don't get to use a realistic formula for an unrealistic feat.

Seismic wave propagation from a localized source does not behave like this geometrically. A single-point explosion does not produce a synchronized spherical collapse into the center. If you explode one island on a sphere, the wavefront expands outward from that point.

Seismic energy from a point source doesn't behave like a balloon inflating from the center of the planet outward. It behaves like a ripple in a pond, radiating outward spherically in all directions from that one point of origin. The wave front is not centered on the planet's core. It is centered on Lulusia. Because of this, the wave front expands asymmetrically relative to the rest of the planet. Locations near Lulusia feel the shaking first. Locations far from Lulusia feel it much later. Locations on the opposite side of the planet feel it last. This is seismology's most basic rule about point-source events and there is no configuration of a single surface explosion that breaks it.

"Well, but they all DID feel it at the same time!"

Doesn't matter. That in itself is unrealistic, meaning the feat is unrealistic, thus the assumption it makes is also unrealistic.

The calc's model requires the energy to hit the planet's core and then rebound outward in all directions simultaneously, like an explosion at the center of the sphere. This is the only geometry that would produce perfectly simultaneous surface arrival everywhere at once. But for that to happen, the energy would need to arrive at the core from all directions at the same time. Think about what that requires: every point on the planet's surface would need to be generating seismic energy inward simultaneously, all converging on the core at the same moment. That is the only input geometry that produces an omnidirectional rebound output. A single surface explosion at Lulusia does the opposite, it sends a single wave front that arrives at the core from one direction, at one moment, and continues propagating outward in a lopsided, asymmetric pattern. What you get from a one-sided impact on the core is not a uniform sphere of energy expanding outward. You get continued directional propagation, with some refraction and scattering. Not a simultaneous global pulse.



I'm sorry, but this is a disaster. I don't have any authority, but I did want to give my two cents.
I outline the assumptions here, please have a look
 
Y'know what?

Screw it

Since we have no standards on the physics allowed for planets and these dumb rules change literally every thread, with one day a planet is too close to earth to use big parameters but now too far from earth to use earth parameters, we're gonna make a thread about it.

So this thread is closing
 
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