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One Piece General Discussion: Film RED

Peter1129 said:
Don’t know what the God Hand‘s abilitis are so I guess I’ll just say maybe?
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Basically causality hax and the ability to exist on a higher plane than other creatures but also exist on our plane, and they can't be hurt or touched on neither plane without something like existence erasure, among other abilities. One inconsistency I've noticed is that the newest member Griffith had still touched and interacted with one person despite usually not being able to be touched
 
Peter1129 said:
Full Film: Red summary is out
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One Piece Film: RED Spoiler Talk (FULL SUMMARY)

Film RED came out some ten days ago in Japan and France, and having seen the film, I wanted to discuss in depth all its events and big spoilers. Given how the spoiler embargo is now over, let&#8217…
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Important stuff regarding Uta and Tot Musica according to the full spoilers

So Tot Musica is an demon lord/devil king that was sealed in a music sheet from ancient times that is capable of destroying the world. Even while being sealed it’s something that possesses a will of it’s own like a zoan devil fruit. Due to this it was able to manipulate Uta and take over her body to destroy Elegia Island.

Upon singing it Uta shattered Bartolomeo’s soundproof barrier which nullified her normal devil fruit powers. Also the Gorosei said Tot Musica being unleashed is causing the virtual world to merge with the real world. The virtual world is a world that is identical to the real world and in it Uta is essentially nigh invincible and is capable of warping reality.
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Has anyone read the full thing? what powers did Uta get and it seems Haki got a new ability
 
Eseseso said:
Doesn't destroying the world not always mean planet levle in anime/manga due to how the Japanese word for "world" can be translated?
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Depends on what the original translation means. It can translate to "fall to ruin" or downright "wipe out". In english the word destroy covers a bit too wide a range, so it's probably for the best to get the OG translation.
 

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And according to that article it can destroy the world by merging the UTA WORLD and the real world, so.. IF it's literal, it can destroy the world via dimensional collision
 
Well this was the original line from the character guide thing
禁断の歌 「トットムジカ」 が歌われることで姿を現す 魔王。その禍々しく強 大な力は世界を壊滅させる ほどと言われ、世界政府か ら危険視されている。

And considering how it was merging the virtual world with the real world it might legitimately be capable of outright destroying the world.
 
Peter1129 said:
Well this was the original line from the character guide thing
禁断の歌 「トットムジカ」 が歌われることで姿を現す 魔王。その禍々しく強 大な力は世界を壊滅させる ほどと言われ、世界政府か ら危険視されている。

And considering how it was merging the virtual world with the real world it might legitimately be capable of outright destroying the world.
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On some Yhwach soul society/real world merging shit
 
Also based on the full summary, Tot Musica did this by simply existing in its first form after Uta set it free. So this is like some passive world ending stuff going on with Tot Musica who was at the time still getting stronger until it reached its final form.
 
Peter1129 said:
Also based on the full summary, Tot Musica did this by simply existing in its first form after Uta set it free. So this is like some passive world ending stuff going on with Tot Musica who was at the time still getting stronger until it reached its final form.
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Probably some passive space warping/reality warping? From the things I have read
 
Oh that comment. Yeah they’re just talking about how One Punch Man got haxxier and higher AP via Garou while One Piece did this via Uta and Tot Musica.
 
it is stated that Uta World is the same as the world, and the original world of one piece is shown starred many times, is it possible to get 4A?

and it seems that Uta also copied the law of cause and effect in the original world like Luffy who drowned and was affected by sea water

the ability is said to transfer consciousness to the person who hears the song to the Uta world whether this is Mind manipulation or BFR based consciousness

Haki seems to get
Extranossasory Perception Interdimensional Range
 
14405User said:
it is stated that Uta World is the same as the world, and the original world of one piece is shown starred many times, is it possible to get 4A?

and it seems that Uta also copied the law of cause and effect in the original world like Luffy who drowned and was affected by sea water

the ability is said to transfer consciousness to the person who hears the song to the Uta world whether this is Mind manipulation or BFR based consciousness

Haki seems to get
Extranossasory Perception Interdimensional Range
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and possible limited immortality negation type 8 (not sure about this one) and precog negation or flat out nullfies it (since shanks haki is so high and good that he can negate obvservation haki,
 
One Piece Volume 4 billion 4/4 August 27 is planned for release

previously focused on discussing the strength of Shanks and his crew

in 4/4 will focus on discussing Uta
 
Yo, I’m confused by this new one piece movie, tot musica may be 2-C via warping 2 universes and Luffy Shanks and other people damaged it?
 
Scourge_8 said:
Yo, I’m confused by this new one piece movie, tot musica may be 2-C via warping 2 universes and Luffy Shanks and other people damaged it?
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It would be around tier 4. It wasn't warping universes, it was warping worlds, and since the OP planet is massive, it's around dwarf-small star level iirc.
 
Scourge_8 said:
Yo, I’m confused by this new one piece movie, tot musica may be 2-C via warping 2 universes and Luffy Shanks and other people damaged it?
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More or less warping two star sized planes into collision, instead of universes.
That seems overall on brand with ancient weapons destroying the 'world' in the global sense rather than universal
 
SnookB said:
More or less warping two star sized planes into collision, instead of universes.
That seems overall on brand with ancient weapons destroying the 'world' in the global sense rather than universal
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It really ******* jumped the power scales (for its series) now l want a movie luffy key but l feel like he would get stomp to hell and back.
 
Chianli said:
It really ******* jumped the power scales (for its series) now l want a movie luffy key but l feel like he would get stomp to hell and back.
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After this, I think there should be a Movie Luffy key tbh- and Shanks. And.. Uta? Or the Demon King specifically
 
Yee, insane speed feats from a shanks from the very limited clip I saw

180 rotation I think from right to left or left to right to deflect all those laser beams
 
I watched the film twice and the feats of the film make me wonder if it will be Canon. Uta basically has a lot of useful haxs (Soul/mind-BFR, pocket Reality/Dream manipulation, pocket Reality, creation, immobilization, matter/Transmutation, water, Life manipulation, sound/music manipulation, social influence, Healing, Fly, body control, sleep manipulation, Transformation/Stats amp, Summoning Tot Musica and can merge with him/it, and likely more abilities + she has Soul/Mind-BFR and controlled 70% of the population on the planet and could beat almost anyone and follow them in therme of speed in the movie. Besides sharing her consciousness simultaneously in the real world and her world. Killing Uta does not take you out of her world, and if she dies in the real world the characters in the film were stuck forever. TOT MUSICA, the real God tier of the film, it is not physical, it is even more abstract, all its complexe existence and Invulnerability is the things that following : it is made of negative emotions, fear and other things since the history of humanity and needed Uta to free him and merge with her body. It is a gateway for the two worlds, that of Uta (which is parallel to the real world), and that of reality. he exists simultaneously in both worlds, and to interact with him you have to touch him simultaneously in both worlds otherwise any attacks/techniques of the characters will not affect him (he also seems to have a space barrier or something if he is not attack under this condition). He can merge the two worlds to end humanity. he is probably Solar System since his presence has filled the world of Uta with Darkness and thousands/millions of stars and he is also simultaneously distorting the real world, in addition to its statements of destroying the world in the movie files/databook. So it is to be taken seriously. Haki is also boost to a cosmic/interstellar (don't know the exact name) as they communicate and feel their haki across dimensions to work as a team. When Tot Musica was defeated the world of Uta was destroyed and the real world returned to normal (it was distorted with stars and dark) and everyone's souls were stuck in the destroyed world of Uta. until Uta uses her last strength with her angelic voice to bring them back. Uta seems to die at the end because she refuses Shanks' help (she let herself die because she took drugs to stop sleeping). Apart from all that it was a good movie session. But the levels are completely different it looks like another world.
 
NannoKarma said:
I watched the film twice and the feats of the film make me wonder if it will be Canon. Uta basically has a lot of useful haxs (Soul/mind-BFR, pocket Reality/Dream manipulation, pocket Reality, creation, immobilization, matter/Transmutation, water, Life manipulation, sound/music manipulation, social influence, Healing, Fly, body control, sleep manipulation, Transformation/Stats amp, Summoning Tot Musica and can merge with him/it, and likely more abilities + she has Soul/Mind-BFR and controlled 70% of the population on the planet and could beat almost anyone and follow them in therme of speed in the movie. Besides sharing her consciousness simultaneously in the real world and her world. Killing Uta does not take you out of her world, and if she dies in the real world the characters in the film were stuck forever. TOT MUSICA, the real God tier of the film, it is not physical, it is even more abstract, all its complexe existence and Invulnerability is the things that following : it is made of negative emotions, fear and other things since the history of humanity and needed Uta to free him and merge with her body. It is a gateway for the two worlds, that of Uta (which is parallel to the real world), and that of reality. he exists simultaneously in both worlds, and to interact with him you have to touch him simultaneously in both worlds otherwise any attacks/techniques of the characters will not affect him (he also seems to have a space barrier or something if he is not attack under this condition). He can merge the two worlds to end humanity. he is probably Solar System since his presence has filled the world of Uta with Darkness and thousands/millions of stars and he is also simultaneously distorting the real world, in addition to its statements of destroying the world in the movie files/databook. So it is to be taken seriously. Haki is also boost to a cosmic/interstellar (don't know the exact name) as they communicate and feel their haki across dimensions to work as a team. When Tot Musica was defeated the world of Uta was destroyed and the real world returned to normal (it was distorted with stars and dark) and everyone's souls were stuck in the destroyed world of Uta. until Uta uses her last strength with her angelic voice to bring them back. Uta seems to die at the end because she refuses Shanks' help (she let herself die because she took drugs to stop sleeping). Apart from all that it was a good movie session. But the levels are completely different it looks like another world.
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the abilities are, the story not. (by that, feats aren't Canon)
 
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